coachh
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Post by coachh on Nov 17, 2006 11:28:10 GMT -6
I am seeing more and more high school teams have a head coach, and then an Offensive Cord. and a Def. Cord.
When I played and grew up. The head coach was the Head coach and Offensive Cord. or Def. Cord.
Are you seeing more of this as well at this level?
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Post by groundchuck on Nov 17, 2006 11:31:14 GMT -6
Maybe at bigger schools. When I was HC at a small school I was the following:
Year 1: OC
Year 2: OC
Years 3-4 OC and DC
Year: 5 DC only
At my current school the HC is the o-coord and we have a D-coord, and a special teams coach. When I was the HC I was also in charge of all special teams.
It basically comes down to how many qualified assistants you have. I am all for letting the other guys coach and all that...it makes the job easier but they had better be able to do the job. That is why in year 3-4 I had to do it all.
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Post by superpower on Nov 17, 2006 11:41:29 GMT -6
I am HC, OC, and DC, and I run punt return and punt as part of defense and offense. I have an assistant who runs the kick-off and kick return. My assistants are great coaches, but none of them wants the responsibility of DC.
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Post by coachbw on Nov 17, 2006 12:18:44 GMT -6
The last program I was at the head coach didn't coach a position or coordinate at all. He had an offensive, special teams, and defensive coordinator.
This past year was my first as a head coach. I was the offensive coordinator. I had a defensive coordinator and special teams coordinator.
Next year I will be the run game coordinator, and have a passing game coordinator. Hopefully my third year I will have an offensive, defensive, and special teams coordinator.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2006 14:06:59 GMT -6
I think some teams will list an offensive coordinator, but the HC will still call plays. I don't know if this is to build a resume in order to let the assistant list OC on it or not.
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neil
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Post by neil on Nov 17, 2006 16:38:31 GMT -6
My 1st 4 seasons coaching I was an asst. Our Head Coach didn't coach a position or call a play. He "managed" the game. He would get on the head sets and say I think we are passing too much, and run the football. In those 4 years we went to the State Finals 3 times, and won back-to-back titles.
I became a head coach in 2004. I let an assistant call plays on offense and one for defense. I had no fun whatsoever. I was miserable walking the sidelines, letting my coordinators have all the fun.
After last season, my offensive coord. left and went to a bigger school. I have never had more fun than I have this season. I guess going undefeated would be fun, no matter what I was doing. We didn't go undefeated because I was calling plays. But I can tell you I was miserable last year and now I am having a blast.
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Post by coachpoe on Nov 17, 2006 16:48:18 GMT -6
In high school my first HC wasn't OC or DC and didn't coach a position. He didn't coach special teams. He walked around during practice just yelling at kids incoherently. He didn't watch film with the team. He didn't supervise our lifting. I am not really sure what he did besides "address" the team before and after the game. He was the worst football coach I have ever seen in my entire life. Oh yeah our record my sophmore year, his last as HC and my only year under him, was 11-2. We won our conference and district titles and reached the state semifinals losing 21-13. He had recorded over 100 wins in his 12 seasons, only one of which was losing. He had won 5 league titles and 4 district championships with 2 semifinal apperances. I have no idea what he did, but it worked.
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 18, 2006 7:12:18 GMT -6
I think the proliferation of titles is just what wolverine said - resume building. OC, DC, or my favorite "Assistant HEAD Coach".
We're a small school and I'm the HC/OC. I have a young assistant who is my DC who is getting better every year, but I am in his ear throughout the game - usually just providing info so he can make a call - sometimes saying "maybe try an inside stunt" or occasionally, "DON'T BLITZ!" depending on whats happening. I had an assistant a few years ago who was capable of taking over as OC but like Neil said, calling the plays is how I have my fun and I'm not quite ready to let go. It all comes down to how well your staff is equipped to work.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 18, 2006 18:47:46 GMT -6
Much may depend on what all the "other stuff" the head coach has to deal with. Is he the Athletic Director or School's Athletic Coordinator? How much parent, booster, media stuff does he have to deal with. etc. etc.
At the schools I've worked at, the OC was the OC, coordinated offense, practice, game plan, play-caller. same with the DC. Head Coach was the Head Coach and didn't specifically coordinate a particular side of the ball.
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