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Post by cfoott on May 9, 2013 14:54:12 GMT -6
I'm wondering if anyone else has problems with sharing players with other sports? Even though we are at a very small school, less than 900, I've always subscribed to the idea of having my players play other sports in the off season. This way they don't loose their competitive edge during the down time. If players are not playing other sports or finished with their sport, then they are required to come to all off season workouts and Spring Ball. Coaches in other sports seem to be in our players ears, specifically baseball and basketball. Baseball coaches tell them that they need to play "Fall Ball" or they may loose their position. Basketball coaches are requiring that players show up to all off season workouts or risk playing JV instead of Varsity. If any of you have dealt with this before, how did you come to a compromise with the other coaches? Or, how did you explain it to the players so that they block out the other coaches and make their own decisions?
Look forward to hearing your guys' ideas. Take Care.
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Post by newhope on May 10, 2013 6:03:40 GMT -6
For this to truly work, you have to have an AD who is going to make it work. The best ones simply say "if you tell a kid not to play other sports you won't coach here" and then back it up. You're always going to have players in this day and age who decide to "specialize", often because someone tells them to. That someone better not be in the building getting paid.
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Post by crock1615 on May 10, 2013 7:53:26 GMT -6
i am at a very small school (around 350-400) To be competitive in football, we need every athlete in the school we can get. The baseball coach is ok with sharing players, but the basketball coach fights us tooth and nail over each kid. He tells their parents that if they play football then they won't start in basketball. So then the parents put pressure on the kids not to play football. Last year we had one kid call his bluff and stuck with football, was our star player, then after the season went to the gym and started for him too.
We try to tell the kids, "the bball coach want to win too, he is going to put is best players in the game. if you are one of the best, you will get on the floor whether you played football or not."
I've seen way too many 5'9" point guards who were too small for college basketball that would have been great running backs or corners.
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Post by wcgenerals on May 10, 2013 12:38:39 GMT -6
We have a working relationship with all the coaches in the building. We compromise on the out-of-season schedules so that no one overlaps or "takes" kids away from the others. We also only have 350-400 in the building. Works well for us.
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Post by cvaughan598 on May 10, 2013 21:27:02 GMT -6
We share and encourage it within Athletic Department. Our kids go from football to basketball to baseball/track/lacrosse during the year. We even have our workouts at 7 in the morning so we don't interfere with other sports practices and academic tutoring schedules. We have been pretty successful with this model.
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Post by bluboy on May 12, 2013 7:26:49 GMT -6
We encourage all our kids to play other sports. In fact, during summer workouts, we give them workout credit for attendance at a sport camp. The problem is we have some coaches who: don't believe in any kind of speed, strength and agility training; and who say "If you want to be good at XXXX, you have to play all year round." Some of the best athletes in our school are one-sport athletes because they've "drunk the cool aid".
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Post by fantom on May 12, 2013 7:37:30 GMT -6
We encourage all our kids to play other sports. In fact, during summer workouts, we give them workout credit for attendance at a sport camp. The problem is we have some coaches who: don't believe in any kind of speed, strength and agility training; and who say "If you want to be good at XXXX, you have to play all year round." Some of the best athletes in our school are one-sport athletes because they've "drunk the cool aid". Isn't it possible that some of the kids just don't like football? |
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Post by jg78 on May 12, 2013 7:49:13 GMT -6
Where's the AD? The AD should be involved in situations like this one. A good AD will encourage participation in all sports and will use the strength program as the foundation for everything.
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Post by blb on May 12, 2013 8:35:15 GMT -6
We encourage all our kids to play other sports. In fact, during summer workouts, we give them workout credit for attendance at a sport camp. The problem is we have some coaches who: don't believe in any kind of speed, strength and agility training; and who say "If you want to be good at XXXX, you have to play all year round." Some of the best athletes in our school are one-sport athletes because they've "drunk the cool aid". Isn't it possible that some of the kids just don't like football? Yes. Some kids, good athletes, decide after they get to HS and see all the time demands ("commitment") we put on them, especially in Off Season, Football's not so much fun any more and they do something else instead. Some see or think their chances of playing much aren't very good and make the same decision, sometimes for same reason. I have always urged our players to go out for as many sports (and other activities) as they have interest in just because philosophically I feel kids should get as much out of their HS experience as possible. Coaches who pressure their players to "specialize" are unethical. There are very few ADs who will step in and resolve such an issue. The AD may have less "power" than the coach who is able to convince his or her players to specialize, may just be grateful to find a competent person to coach, may have been the same kind of coach him or herself, or may just be someone who avoids confrontation at all cost. |
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Post by coachd5085 on May 12, 2013 8:55:39 GMT -6
Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that the phrases "our athletes, our players, our offseason" etc are so frequently used in a thread bout multi-sport athletic philosophy?
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Post by cfoott on May 12, 2013 10:13:42 GMT -6
Where's the AD? The AD should be involved in situations like this one. A good AD will encourage participation in all sports and will use the strength program as the foundation for everything. Unfortunately our AD sees this as a parental decision of what they allow their children to participate in. As a staff, we believe this should be handled in a different manner, but I'm not sure how we go about bringing it up to the other coaches and discuss it without stepping on toes and alienating them or making the situation worse. |
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Post by cfoott on May 12, 2013 10:19:59 GMT -6
Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that the phrases "our athletes, our players, our offseason" etc are so frequently used in a thread bout multi-sport athletic philosophy? Agree. Unfortunately their seems to be a culture of division among sports within the schools. Each sport contributes differently to the growth of the players, physically, mentally and socially. As a coach I want student athletes that are well rounded team players and look for the greater good of their classmates and school. Play multiple sports, join clubs/ student gov't, play in band. What have you... Don't be afraid to try different things and enjoy your time at school. I feel a lot of pressure/ leverage is being put onto these kids to be focused on one thing. |
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Post by cvaughan598 on May 12, 2013 10:57:44 GMT -6
Most of that pressure comes from parents and certain coaches. My previous school we had kids that were 6-3 260 specializing in baseball because their parents didn't want them to mess up their chances in baseball. Certain coaches would tell kids that if they didn't play fall ball that they wouldn't start for varsity... Varsity coach was NOT a part of this. He liked sharing "our" athletes. Our AD wouldn't step in at all...
The relationship amongst the coaches at my current school is MUCH better and we all encourage cross sport participation.
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