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Post by John Knight on May 7, 2013 10:51:48 GMT -6
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Post by spos21ram on May 7, 2013 11:19:26 GMT -6
I don't see a problem. I honestly thought home school kids could always play sports with the high school in their district.
If they could play with any school they wanted then that wouldn't be right and I'd be against it.
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Post by fantom on May 7, 2013 13:02:51 GMT -6
A similar bill was just defeated in Virginia this year. There were a lot of concerns about ensuring academic eligibility. |
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Post by cookiemonster on May 8, 2013 20:30:15 GMT -6
You either want to be apart of public schools nor you don't! We have too many people who try to manipulate the system and get what they want. If public schools aren't what you want for your child then good but just because they serve good lunch and cheaper than you can get it other places you shouldn't be able to show up in the cafeteria!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2013 22:30:21 GMT -6
A similar bill was just defeated in Virginia this year. There were a lot of concerns about ensuring academic eligibility. That's something that makes a lot of sense. In nearly every homeschool situation I've personally encountered, the kids don't do squat but play video games and hang out at home all day while occasionally doing a worksheet. They don't learn jack except for their parents political/religious propaganda and if they ever transfer back into an actual school, they're typically light years behind everyone else. We already have a lot of issues where I live of powerhouse programs recruiting studs from nearby schools and districts to come play for them. I know that one of them even creates special sections of core academic classes for stud athletes just to make sure they literally cannot fail. Now kids could just be "homeschooled" and never actually have to show up at school except for practice and workouts with no worries about eligibility whatsoever. Also, I'm glad that rule worked out for Tebow, but I don't see why parents who choose to homeschool and gripe about how the public school system should be dismantled should get to turn around and reap the obvious rewards of public schooling (extracurricular activities, socialization, etc.). If they want to pay the money to send their kids to private school or move into another district, that's up to them, but school teams exist for the kids who actually go to the school and the community who supports it. Take that away and we're going to be on the road to becoming AAU. Make no mistake: Tim Tebow rules are just another part of the dismantling of the public school system, right alongside vouchers, Charter Schools, union busting, elimination of tenure, standardized testing, "accountability," etc. It's part of the same movement and this is one of its earliest moves into the area of athletics and extracurriculars. Who knows what else could follow... Maybe more things like this: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/magazine/08/22/high-school-football-virtual-powerhouse/index.html |
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Post by John Knight on May 10, 2013 8:09:10 GMT -6
Amen, Brother Arnold!
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Post by paulfrantz on May 18, 2013 9:49:14 GMT -6
While I think it becomes a slippery slope of "recruiting", don't forget that while these parents may not be happy with the level of education their children may get in the public school in their area, they still pay the same taxes everyone else does to support that school.
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Post by fantom on May 18, 2013 9:58:47 GMT -6
While I think it becomes a slippery slope of "recruiting", don't forget that while these parents may not be happy with the level of education their children may get in the public school in their area, they still pay the same taxes everyone else does to support that school. When you make a decision you live with the consequences. They've chosen not to participate in the school system. |
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Post by paulfrantz on May 18, 2013 10:30:32 GMT -6
While I think it becomes a slippery slope of "recruiting", don't forget that while these parents may not be happy with the level of education their children may get in the public school in their area, they still pay the same taxes everyone else does to support that school. When you make a decision you live with the consequences. They've chosen not to participate in the school system. Consequences are a result of making choices knowing what the "rule/law" is. So if the state they live in says that their homeschooled child can not play in public school sports, then yes, they have to live with their decision. I assumed this was a question of should it be allowed. I'm simply saying that if these parents live in an area with a poor school system (education wise) and want better for their children, why can't they play sports at a place they already support financially through their taxes. It's not like they're trying to beat the system and get something for free. Trust me i've dealt with plenty of homeschoolers, and they are normally not better educated, and are usually way behind as far as social interaction. |
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Post by treyjames on May 20, 2013 8:32:03 GMT -6
I do have a problem with it, for eligibility issues. There is no way to regulate this, so if a kid cannot pass all you have to do is put him in home school and now they can continue to play ball. What are we actually doing for that kid? I am more in favor of a voucher system. I am aware that I will get bashed for this, but I know with my own child I would like my tax money to go to the school my child is actually going to. I do not live in the district that I coach in; my kid can go to school where I coach but I still have to pay taxes for the district we live in and would never send my son there. The voucher system will create competition among schools, good teacher will finally be rewarded by getting more money. The biggest down fall of public education is that a crappy teacher/coach makes just as much as someone who is good at their job. In fact if you are good you get more responsibility, and if you are terrible you get less, but still get paid the same. I think that competition is good for public schools, not just the rich private schools. I live in Texas and I can see this home school thing getting way out of control in a hurry.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 20, 2013 20:42:01 GMT -6
In Nebraska (at least last year and prior to that) home school students could only play for their attendance center... the home school. I did see where in larger cities home schools "consolidated" to form a home school basketball team- but that was all.
In North Dakota- home school students may play for the school in the district in which they reside. I don't like it, but that is our rule.
Can it be abused? You bet. We have a prime example of it this year:
We have a soph. OL/DL kid. Big kid, strong, good speed,... good player. 2nd team all region last year. Not much of a student. He was ineligible one week during the year (and had we won the semifinal, he would have been ineligible for the state championship). Anyway, once basketball rolled around, his parents (upset with teachers for the kids bad grades) withdrew him from school and began "home schooling" him.
So now, this guy (let's call him "Joe Jones") is being home schooled and apparently is doing quite well. I notice that he spends most of his time at our local rec. center in the weight room (or playing basketball). Colleges are asking about him... I don't know what to say really. He was a 1.2 student here- but is #1 in his class at the "Jones Academy of the Arts and Sciences".
Really, this whole thing is a joke. Our superintendent is mad, as am I, because they are using a loophole in the system. The kid doesn't have to get any better- he just gets enabled. Now if he does what I ask of him this summer- he will play; he's one of three returning starters and I am not going to penalize him because his mom is crazy. However, I fear that they have already slit his throat as far as colleges go. Not only that, but I now have a 6'3 265# kid who can not handle adversity at all, has not had to fight through anything and learn to get a work ethic (put it this way, he thinks "manual labor" is a Cuban shortstop).
I have another player who was just like him- figured out that he needs to work and has improved himself and brought his grades up. We had no issues with him through track and he has qualified for the state meet in three events. I am excited to get to coach him this fall.
I just hope I can feel something other than disdain for our "home school valedictorian". I have a feeling he (and his mom) will be a handful this year (we have already met- they have been briefed on "expectations"). His teammates have lost respect for him, so I am already doing damage control before football camp.
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