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Post by husky44 on May 5, 2013 11:39:00 GMT -6
How many of you think it is important to have your sideline "hooting and hollering" and actively cheering on their teammates on gameday and take steps to work on this? This last season our sidelines were pretty quiet except when we had a big play. It was not because we were not very successful, in fact we had a good season. We play some teams who have very active sidelines and others who do not. Is it worthwhile to focus on this as a part of practice, and if so, what can be done to create a more active lively sideline?
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Post by larrymoe on May 5, 2013 14:33:32 GMT -6
If you have to practice enthusiasm, you really don't have enthusiasm.
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Post by fantom on May 5, 2013 14:42:19 GMT -6
How many of you think it is important to have your sideline "hooting and hollering" and actively cheering on their teammates on gameday and take steps to work on this? This last season our sidelines were pretty quiet except when we had a big play. It was not because we were not very successful, in fact we had a good season. We play some teams who have very active sidelines and others who do not. Is it worthwhile to focus on this as a part of practice, and if so, what can be done to create a more active lively sideline? I don't think it's very important. Teams have different personalities, just like people. If they're focused on the game and not playing graba$$ on the sideline I wouldn't worry about it. |
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Post by carookie on May 5, 2013 18:09:31 GMT -6
I think a lot of it comes down to the culture of the community. I coached for awhile at an upper middle class, conservative, high school where kids were mostly brought up with a stoic mentality. If you do something good, well thats your job, dont get loud and cocky about it (act like youve been there before).
I used to tease the kids about how relatively quiet our sidelines and crowds were, "The _______ High School golf clap" I used to call it. Of course Im kind of an excitable, fun loving loud mouth.
In the end though, we crushed most everyone we played (loud or silent). The kids did care...A LOT. They worked hard, and played hard. Sometimes, kids just have a different way of showing things; and as long as the effort and desire is there I wouldnt worry about the volume.
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Post by Luther Van Dam on May 6, 2013 19:18:14 GMT -6
I don't think it is overly important. Like fantom said, each team is different. Some teams will have high energy, others will be "all business." I certainly would not practice it - doesn't seem like an efficient use of practice time and fake enthusiasm is worse than no enthusiasm, in my opinion. |
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Post by silkyice on May 6, 2013 21:38:39 GMT -6
I disagree about fake enthusiasm. Many times fake enthusiasm leads to real enthusiasm.
That being said, I am not real worried about my sideline.
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Post by hammer66 on May 7, 2013 6:39:31 GMT -6
We have found our least enthusiastic teams have been less than stellar. Football is an emotional game and if you have to get the sideline up for a game in my opinion you have issues. Just my opinion from experience. Sometimes you just have to teach them what they don't know.
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Post by crock1615 on May 7, 2013 10:19:03 GMT -6
The main thing i want is the guys on the sideline to have their heads in the game. If that means cheering then that is fine. If that means being more reserved but still focused on the game then i am fine with that too. As long as they aren't goofing off with the cheerleaders or or their friends/family in the stands.
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Post by Coach Bennett on May 7, 2013 10:58:46 GMT -6
I agree teams need to be "who they are," but when you get a squad that has an infectious energy to them on the field and on the sideline, that can be a tough team to beat.
We talk about how emotion fades but playing with energy builds energy. Without forcing it, one can foster that energy, particularly if you play at a high tempo too.
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Post by newhope on May 7, 2013 11:09:14 GMT -6
Forced rah-rah on the sidelines is a waste of time and energy and means nothing. If they're excited on their own, then you've got something.
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Post by rudyrude9 on May 7, 2013 14:11:00 GMT -6
I disagree about fake enthusiasm. Many times fake enthusiasm leads to real enthusiasm. I agree with this. And we have practiced it before. Sometimes you have to show them the way. |
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Post by coachwoodall on May 7, 2013 19:53:55 GMT -6
I work Sunday to Thursday, Friday I watch the game.
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Post by newhope on May 8, 2013 7:00:18 GMT -6
Kids smell BS a mile away. They resent fake anything. The first time they think something in your program is fake, you've lost them.
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Post by silkyice on May 8, 2013 20:44:31 GMT -6
Kids smell BS a mile away. They resent fake anything. The first time they think something in your program is fake, you've lost them. If you are talking about fake enthusiasm I think I can clarify. Sometimes you have a team, or a game, or a practice that has no enthusiasm. Sometimes that is ok, but sometimes you need some enthusiasm to make it better. I will try and get some enthusiasm from them. If that doesn't work, I will say "heck, give me something, at least give some fake enthusiasm." Usually some idiot will start acting like an idiot. His acting like an idiot gets some others excited. Magically, you have some real enthusiasm. That is real enthusiasm from fake enthusiasm. I have done nothing fake - the kids did. I didn't BS them, I told them the truth. No resentment, nothing in program is fake, and I haven't lost them. |
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Post by tog on May 9, 2013 5:08:57 GMT -6
We are more focused on being focused instead of cheerleading. Enthusiasm should happen naturally due to all the hard work that has already been put in. We practice
timeouts
national anthem
sideline procedures
special teams and personnel groupings getting on and off the field correctly
what to do and where to go when the other units are on the field
staying behind the lines we are supposed to
proper interactions with the refs
pregame warmup
pregame meal
We make sure our kids know what is expected in as many situations as possible.
We want them prepared for when things do go right and able to adapt when things don't go right.
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Post by newhope on May 9, 2013 6:23:02 GMT -6
I agree with you, silkyice. There are times whether it be practice or game when someone needs to get the kids going. I am usually so intense and demand intensity out of the players so that its not a problem. We don't allow dragging around at practice or being unfocused at games or practice. What I was talking about was the notion of a bunch of forced rah-rah stuff. Tog's got it exactly right--focus not cheerleading is what matters.
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Post by georgefred86 on May 10, 2013 10:18:53 GMT -6
As a HC, I agree with Pete Carroll, coaches are in charge of energy and if your practices or your games lack energy than it is on you and your staff. And like coaches have stated before, for some, that energy comes in the form of being vocal and loud, for others it is having a silent assasin personality ... either way, as coaches you need to have the pulse of your team and be able to feel what what type of energy you are getting back. You also hear all the time, players take on the personality of the coach(es) ... regardless if that is firey or more stoic, just be real and just be you. I have also found that the more time spent in the offseason with your players (developing relationships) on the track and in the weight room, the harder they play and the more energy they bring to the party. And if you have a competent staff and are able to put your players in position to succeed on Friday nights ... energy/enthusiasm will not be an issue.
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Post by tog on May 12, 2013 18:34:55 GMT -6
32 year old clapper hc's that think clapping and cheerleading is "energy" ?
I won't work for
or send kids to
especially when they say they are going to be somewhere at a certain time and then do not show up then
lol
I have fired more than my share of fish and jr hi coaches over the same.
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Post by Chris Clement on May 12, 2013 21:58:50 GMT -6
What's a fish coach?
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Post by coachmitts on May 12, 2013 22:14:41 GMT -6
Football is emotional. As long as they are paying attention to the game, the excitement will take care of it self. And if things are not going our way, leaders will get the sideline more into it. Coaches coach, not cheer up kids.
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Post by calicoachh on May 14, 2013 14:42:15 GMT -6
the most important thing about the sidelines is if they are organized so that decisions can be made efectively. i don't want to be yelling for a personell group or a sub because they are whooping it up with thier buddies. i don't need the back up cornerback in the way of the O-line when i'm talking with them on teh bench while the defense is out there playing. the punt team needs to be ready on third down that kind of stuff.
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Post by newhope on May 15, 2013 6:48:45 GMT -6
As a head coach who is calling the offense, I'm not really aware of everything that's going on around me on the sidelines--I'm focused on what's happening on the field. I have assistants assigned to take care of the sidelines. However, when I first got here a couple of years ago, my wife (who stands on the track at games and doesn't sit in the stands), texted me a picture of what was going on behind me. Of course, I didn't see it until after the game. People down there who didn't belong had migrated to the sidelines during the game, and in one case two players (not players, sandwich eaters to be more exact) were over there with some random guy looking at an iphone in the picture. By the time I finished reaming coaches and players, that stuff got cleaned up. Part of the issue was not knowing staff well enough and coaches I had assigned to policing the sidelines were spectator coaches.
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Post by tog on May 15, 2013 19:21:11 GMT -6
expectations are not to be assumed
make them known
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