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Post by simione916 on Mar 26, 2013 0:52:17 GMT -6
We have been looking at combining our two older teams (11-12 and 13-14 year old groups) for a number of reasons, including:
More people at practice (each team had trouble practicing 11 on 11 or even half-iine on some days)
Same system on both levels
More eyes on the kids--coaches could buddy up and constantly coach the kids on scout team, for example
Coaches have more opportunity for growth by sharing the roles--for instance, the OC in one game can be a position coach in the other.
Have any of you tried this? If so, what are the positives and negatives you have seen?
I have seen something similar done at the high school level, and although it looked good, those coaches sure looked tired by the end of the Varsity game:)
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 27, 2013 1:52:14 GMT -6
I haven't experienced it, but are you sayingyou're forming a single team of 11-14 YOs?
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Post by simione916 on Mar 27, 2013 8:48:22 GMT -6
Yes. The 11-12 year old staff will be moving up and combining with a few coaches from last year's 13-14 year old team.
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Post by dangerzone on Mar 27, 2013 10:30:24 GMT -6
They will be playing separate games? I did this last year...very difficult for me but it sounds like you have 2 staffs combining... I didn't have that one staff 2 teams.
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Post by simione916 on Mar 27, 2013 10:38:09 GMT -6
Yes playing separate games. So the scenario would be one where you have multiple position coaches and coordinators.
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Post by dangerzone on Mar 27, 2013 12:00:07 GMT -6
It should be able to work. As long as egos with other coaches don't get in the way and everyone buys into the concept.
I didn't have enough coaches or the coaches that were ready to help out in different positions. I'm hoping to have a separate staff this year for the two teams...
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 27, 2013 20:40:34 GMT -6
Many HS teams combine everyone even if they don't have to, for at least some portion of practice. It can allow the older kids to set an example. If you're short coaches it can be an easy way to fix that, but you do need to take care to avoid physical mismatches.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 28, 2013 14:52:39 GMT -6
I usually think of a "team" as a group who play together in one game -- the players on the field plus the bench. So really what's being discussed here is not the merging of 2 teams into one, but just 2 separate teams practicing together. That sort of arrangement is fairly common.
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Post by simione916 on Mar 28, 2013 23:33:53 GMT -6
Yes bobgoodman, sorry if I caused any confusion. If anything, only the staffs are combined. Kids practice together every day.
So for those who know about it, how did it work? Do you remember how it went from the coaches' standpoint? Just trying to anticipate potential challenges so i can try to fix them now.
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 29, 2013 9:11:15 GMT -6
Biggest thing will be making sure indy drills don't end up in massive physical mismatches. I don't mind putting any two kids against each other as long as they'll see each other in a game, so your biggest junior kid can go against your smallest from time to time, but there's nothing to be gained by running your smallest kid against some hulking beast from the senior team.
You'll have to figure out how you want to run team sessions now that there are two teams.
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Post by bobgoodman on Mar 29, 2013 15:01:23 GMT -6
Yes bobgoodman, sorry if I caused any confusion. If anything, only the staffs are combined. Kids practice together every day. So for those who know about it, how did it work? Do you remember how it went from the coaches' standpoint? Just trying to anticipate potential challenges so i can try to fix them now. It works fine if the 2 teams are playing the same style of game. In some clubs that play according to skill level rather than age or size, you might not know until shortly before game day who's playing on the A team and who the B team. But since you have a b road age range, I'm assuming you won't have to select like that -- although I could imagine a kid or two on the edge of the ranges being a floater between teams. In 2008 I thought I had a similar situation with kids 9-13 YO. I had them all in my charge, but then found out we had no team for the younger ones! I was bugged that the president was stringing them along long after he knew that. There are also clubs where it's common for all ages to warm up together, then split up for team practice. |
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Post by davecisar on Aug 12, 2013 15:48:19 GMT -6
We have been looking at combining our two older teams (11-12 and 13-14 year old groups) for a number of reasons, including: More people at practice (each team had trouble practicing 11 on 11 or even half-iine on some days) Same system on both levels More eyes on the kids--coaches could buddy up and constantly coach the kids on scout team, for example Coaches have more opportunity for growth by sharing the roles--for instance, the OC in one game can be a position coach in the other. Have any of you tried this? If so, what are the positives and negatives you have seen? I have seen something similar done at the high school level, and although it looked good, those coaches sure looked tired by the end of the Varsity game:) |
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