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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 6, 2013 2:03:33 GMT -6
Come playoff time/rival week, we normally end up with a massive amount of game film.
One week we had 10 games on one opponent.
What is your philosophy on breaking down/inputing a large amount of films. Typically when this happens to us we will input for their last 2 games. From there we will vary week to week.
Sometimes we will do the first half of the rest of the games. Other times we will input any other game that was not a blow out.
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Post by realdawg on Mar 6, 2013 5:08:11 GMT -6
We would break down the last 2 or maybe 3. We would probably also watch some of the other films looking for different stuff, trick plays, etc...
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Post by gators1422 on Mar 6, 2013 5:16:38 GMT -6
In the playoffs we generally break down 5-6 on hudl, usually the most recent. We will watch every one we can get our hands on and if we see any play not in the hudl breakdown we make a note. For the semi-finals we had 13 games and like 12 for the finals. Alot of film to watch.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Mar 6, 2013 5:35:17 GMT -6
Listened to the defensive staff of Cincinnati Colerain at a Glazier a few weeks ago and he said they are only going to break down 3 games for their upcoming opponent, either the last 3 games or 3 games against a like defense. Their league has an exchange deal setup on Hudl so they have access to every game the opponent has played up to that point, but they still only do 3. The reason he said they do this is that if you start breaking down more than that you start to create tendencies that aren't really there, because you are looking at things that very likely have changed by that point (the point where you are going to play them).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 6:22:28 GMT -6
I'm looking at this defensively, so keep that in mind. If you have a lot of game film (i.e. 10 films): 1. Find teams like you (if you are 4-3, find other teams your opponent played that was 4-3). 2. If this doesn't give you at least 3 films, then look at any even front opponent they played. 3. Look at last 3 games. 4. Review all games for any trick plays, weird formations etc.
Duece
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Post by blb on Mar 6, 2013 8:39:29 GMT -6
I break down previous year's game films over Christmas, Spring Break, and Summer.
In our league we trade previous two games.
Sometimes that results in having three films on somebody later in the year. Usually I'll break down two most recent and watch third to confirm what I've got and for any Gadgets or variations that we may need to prepare for.
You can get too much information and wind up trying to get ready for everything and confusing the heck out of your kids.
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Post by s73 on Mar 6, 2013 8:59:19 GMT -6
I concur w/ BLB on that one. I find our better defensive performances have come when we actually did NOT draw up every play the other team ran but in fact focused on their best 5-6 runs and 5-6 passes. Usually can derive that with 2 films.
Just my experience.
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Post by mholst40 on Mar 6, 2013 10:42:38 GMT -6
Generally speaking we trade the previous two games with our opponent. Due to common opponents we will sometimes have 3-5 films of a team at the end of the year.
I am in full agreement that breaking down film of someone who runs a similar scheme is THE most important thing you can do. You will understand blocking assignments and route combos against similar looks.
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Post by fort on Mar 6, 2013 13:10:18 GMT -6
We trade everything up to that week. I tried to breakdown the two most recent games (ideally 3, if we can expand our staff this season) and watch through the rest (trick plays, radically different formations, etc.). For games later in the season, I like going back to the team's first game and kind of see what they think their base (first installed/most important) stuff is. I also pay special attention to games against teams that are similar to our O/D.
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Post by cvaughan598 on Mar 6, 2013 15:09:57 GMT -6
Everything that we can get our hands on.
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Post by agap on Mar 6, 2013 22:38:46 GMT -6
I breakdown every film we have for tendencies, top formations, and top plays.
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Post by CoachFetty on Mar 7, 2013 5:13:28 GMT -6
2 or 3 most recent games.
In WV playoffs you get every game played. We like the most recent 2 or 3.
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Post by coachlarsson on Mar 7, 2013 5:34:22 GMT -6
Our conference trades data so it makes breaking films down really quick. We trade everything, watch everything, break down the last 3, and break down any games that are against defenses similar to ours.
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Post by coachwoodall on Mar 7, 2013 7:27:06 GMT -6
Usually when we have had multiple games over the course of the season, the older ones are already broken down. All the information has been inputted into hudl. So we only had to put in the newest games. So running reports usually is not different of a process once the most recent film is ready.
Running the reports is easy, so I liked to make 2 different reports, 3 most recent and every single game we have. Then I compare to see if any changes have come from earlier in the season. Another report that I might run separately is if we played them in the regular season.
I know the whole season report can give a lot of stuff that isn't necessary or doesn't apply to a team like ours, but mostly I am looking for anomalies. Another thing that a whole season report can give is the D&D situations that don't occur often: 1st & 10 from under their own goal post, 3rd and medium, 2 minute drill, fake punts/FGs, etc...
I tend to run a lot of different reports to compare and evaluate as much information as possible, it's my nature b/c I am a global thinker/big picture thinker. Just because I break down all that stuff doesn't mean that we teach it all to the kids, or that it goes on the call sheet.
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Post by 353coach on Mar 7, 2013 8:32:32 GMT -6
I break down all films I have of similar defenses (I run the 3-5-3 defense). I look for other teams that slant. When you run a defense like the 3-5-3 you have to get accurate tendencies so you stunt and blitz at the right time.
If I simply do not have any similar defenses on film I will do the most recent films and generalize the plays. I won't really look too hard at blocking schemes, just percentages of "inside runs" "off-tackle plays" and "perimeter runs" Then the percentage of short,med and deep throws. All by down and distance and field zone. You can usually get a good idea WHERE people are going no matter the front...even though you may not exactly know HOW they are going to get there or attack you at the point of attack.
I watch them all though. Usually I breakdown the selected 3-5 films and any extra I use to check my game plan. I actually save a film or two for the end of the week and "call" the game against it for practice before Friday night.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 7, 2013 10:17:36 GMT -6
Break down 2-3.
Watch through as much as possible at least once. Even from last year.
In the semi-finals this year, I picked up that if they brought one more guy over to the boundary on kickoff it meant that they were going to onside. I saw it from a film the previous year. We were prepared and they tried to do it on the opening kickoff. We lined up to the onside kick. They moved the guy back over and then kicked it deep.
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Post by davishfc on Mar 7, 2013 10:41:03 GMT -6
I break down previous year's game films over Christmas, Spring Break, and Summer. In our league we trade previous two games. Sometimes that results in having three films on somebody later in the year. Usually I'll break down two most recent and watch third to confirm what I've got and for any Gadgets or variations that we may need to prepare for. You can get too much information and wind up trying to get ready for everything and confusing the heck out of your kids. I'll break down previous year's films during the off-season. We trade previous two games in our conference as well. Sometimes if an injury or series of injuries occurs during the season, the identity of the team may change. So maybe they run off tackle more because their perimeter threat went down or vice versa. So I've found sometimes that the additional films from earlier in the year can be contradictory to what a team is currently doing is something has prompted a change, like injuries.
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Post by pirates2012 on Mar 7, 2013 10:48:59 GMT -6
agree on breaking down during the spring/summer off-season. we also traded every two games to opponents save for our week two game this year where as we were both new staffs, we had just the week 1 game film to go off of.
in general I look for similar defensive fronts as a offensive guy. defensively tried to pick out their top two formations and find their base plays there. with the third offensive group we tried to find the more common stuff they did in special situations. 3rd down and short, medium, long, redzone, trick plays, etc and tried to find a common formation or motion or play to go off for that.
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Post by ramsoc on Mar 8, 2013 1:40:29 GMT -6
We break down everything we have. Sometimes its 1, this year we had two games where we had 6. In some cases, we'll combine the current year's info with the previous year(s), then you start getting some serious tendencies.
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Post by mariner42 on Mar 8, 2013 21:15:37 GMT -6
I'm looking at this defensively, so keep that in mind. If you have a lot of game film (i.e. 10 films): 1. Find teams like you (if you are 4-3, find other teams your opponent played that was 4-3). 2. If this doesn't give you at least 3 films, then look at any even front opponent they played. 3. Look at last 3 games. 4. Review all games for any trick plays, weird formations etc. Duece Pretty much this. If it's week 10, I'm going to see every offensive play they've run at least once. I may not statistically break down all of them on HUDL, but I'm going to watch everything.
If it's week 1, I'm going to find their scrimmage film, film from the end of last year, and whatever else I can get my hands on.
I feel like 3 most recent are going to give you the best idea of the team you'll be seeing Friday night, but I'm not comfortable ignoring other games if I've already got them.
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