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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 1:08:13 GMT -6
I have never visited a college to check out spring ball. Since we (CAL) stole Tony Franklin and Dykes away from brophyI decided I have to go check them out at least once. They practice in the evening on Friday and I plan to go there (with a couple other guys I coach with) to check out their spring practice. Their website says it is open to the public. Basically this is my first time going to a school to see their spring ball and i was just curious as to what I should expect, what I should or shouldnt do... Am I allowed to film anything? I was just looking for some insight because this is very unknown to me Thanks |
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Post by brophy on Feb 27, 2013 3:55:53 GMT -6
I've done this for about a dozen programs (in the spring) don't just visit practice..... - talk with the coach that recruits your area
- bring film of your juniors
- ask if you can just sit in on position meetings (before practice)
- bring all the questions you could have
- show up 2-3 hours before practice and talk with the coaches
.....more important than seeing what they do, develop a relationship with their staff I doubt they'll let you film, though |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 11:11:36 GMT -6
I've done this for about a dozen programs (in the spring) don't just visit practice..... - talk with the coach that recruits your area
- bring film of your juniors
- ask if you can just sit in on position meetings (before practice)
- bring all the questions you could have
- show up 2-3 hours before practice and talk with the coaches
.....more important than seeing what they do, develop a relationship with their staff I doubt they'll let you film, though Great thanks this is what I was looking for I just called ahead and "RSVP"d for my staff |
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Post by Luther Van Dam on Feb 27, 2013 12:12:21 GMT -6
I was always really jealous of these spring visits, having coached baseball every year. Our staff visited some great places (Alabama, Virginia Tech) and I was stuck waiting out rain delays...
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Post by brophy on Feb 27, 2013 12:22:01 GMT -6
i should add.....everywhere I've been the staffs go out of their way to accommodate you and if you're not talking with the coaches or in meetings, they usually give you free access to their film room.
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Post by jgordon1 on Feb 27, 2013 12:27:51 GMT -6
i should add.....everywhere I've been the staffs go out of their way to accommodate you and if you're not talking with the coaches or in meetings, they usually give you free access to their film room. Especially if you have a prospect |
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Post by brophy on Feb 27, 2013 14:05:45 GMT -6
i should add.....everywhere I've been the staffs go out of their way to accommodate you and if you're not talking with the coaches or in meetings, they usually give you free access to their film room. Especially if you have a prospect yeah.....#1 caveat to that statement! sorry..... |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 14:41:03 GMT -6
brophywould you recommend bringing my iPad to take notes on?
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Post by fantom on Feb 27, 2013 15:39:13 GMT -6
brophywould you recommend bringing my iPad to take notes on? There are places that won't let you use a cell phone during practice so I wouldn't. You're a guest so err on the side of caution. Bring a notebook. |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 17:08:49 GMT -6
brophywould you recommend bringing my iPad to take notes on? There are places that won't let you use a cell phone during practice so I wouldn't. You're a guest so err on the side of caution. Bring a notebook. That's what I thought might be best I wouldn't want them thinking I was snapping pics or video on it Pen and paper it is |
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 27, 2013 17:15:04 GMT -6
A notebook should be good. We have a solid relationship with Vandy because they recruited one of our players and he has done very well as a freshman there. He's also knee deep in a complete overhaul there so we are caught up in a great situation. The coaches are very open and helpful and just being there to watch drills and practice organization has been a great experience. If I were you, I would show up, not be a stranger, and I would think your access will only increase.
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Post by emptybackfield on Feb 27, 2013 18:59:37 GMT -6
A notebook should be good. We have a solid relationship with Vandy because they recruited one of our players and he has done very well as a freshman there. He's also knee deep in a complete overhaul there so we are caught up in a great situation. The coaches are very open and helpful and just being there to watch drills and practice organization has been a great experience. If I were you, I would show up, not be a stranger, and I would think your access will only increase. James Franklin visits Footballcoachg's school for ideas. G often clinics him on the intricacies of running a football program. I'll second the "don't be a stranger" mindset. I think most coaches feel most comfortable and least threatened by guys that will be outgoing, ask questions, stand close to them on the field, etc. The majority of them eat that stuff up as much as we do. |
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 27, 2013 19:34:32 GMT -6
A notebook should be good. We have a solid relationship with Vandy because they recruited one of our players and he has done very well as a freshman there. He's also knee deep in a complete overhaul there so we are caught up in a great situation. The coaches are very open and helpful and just being there to watch drills and practice organization has been a great experience. If I were you, I would show up, not be a stranger, and I would think your access will only increase. James Franklin visits Footballcoachg's school for ideas. G often clinics him on the intricacies of running a football program. I'll second the "don't be a stranger" mindset. I think most coaches feel most comfortable and least threatened by guys that will be outgoing, ask questions, stand close to them on the field, etc. The majority of them eat that stuff up as much as we do. Who doesn't want to know how to charge a futile fight against unending mediocrity? We reinvent the wheel of banging our heads against a wall daily! Seriously though, I can't speak for other programs but I know that both Franklin's and the previous staff's regime were real big on including local high school staffs and allowing us to be around. It may be different at the bigger schools but you'd be amazed at how few coaches are even willing to ask if they can go to a practice or reach out for information. Coaches at all levels love to talk football and show what they are doing, use that resource as much as you can. |
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 27, 2013 19:47:29 GMT -6
When visiting a D1 school who is the person you call to let them know your coming? The athletic dept ?
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 27, 2013 20:01:21 GMT -6
When visiting a D1 school who is the person you call to let them know your coming? The athletic dept ? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using proboards i called the "football office" |
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Post by 4verts on Feb 27, 2013 23:02:51 GMT -6
All of these guys you are going to see are great guys. Rob Likens (WR) is absolutely an amazing guy!
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Post by orangeforever301 on Feb 28, 2013 9:48:45 GMT -6
the most important thing is to report back here and tell us what you see  |
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Post by mholst40 on Feb 28, 2013 11:16:05 GMT -6
I have never visited a college to check out spring ball. Since we (CAL) stole Tony Franklin and Dykes away from brophyI decided I have to go check them out at least once. They practice in the evening on Friday and I plan to go there (with a couple other guys I coach with) to check out their spring practice. Their website says it is open to the public. Basically this is my first time going to a school to see their spring ball and i was just curious as to what I should expect, what I should or shouldnt do... Am I allowed to film anything? I was just looking for some insight because this is very unknown to me Thanks We just got a flyer in the mail from Cal about their spring practice/coaching clinic/spring game. $30 per person. |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 28, 2013 12:51:03 GMT -6
the most important thing is to report back here and tell us what you see i definitely will I am a big believer in spreading the intellectual wealth Knowledge unshared is knowledge wasted |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 28, 2013 13:02:21 GMT -6
I have never visited a college to check out spring ball. Since we (CAL) stole Tony Franklin and Dykes away from brophyI decided I have to go check them out at least once. They practice in the evening on Friday and I plan to go there (with a couple other guys I coach with) to check out their spring practice. Their website says it is open to the public. Basically this is my first time going to a school to see their spring ball and i was just curious as to what I should expect, what I should or shouldnt do... Am I allowed to film anything? I was just looking for some insight because this is very unknown to me Thanks We just got a flyer in the mail from Cal about their spring practice/coaching clinic/spring game. $30 per person. Yes I got the same flyer you did. The coaching clinic is $30 per person Attending spring practice and the spring game are free. Just call the number at the bottom of the letter and you can tell them what day you are coming and the names of everyone you're bringing with you. This is just so they know how many to expect i guess They ask that you tell them 2 days in advance, I called wednesday morning to RSVP for going tomorrow night (Friday 3/1) |
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Post by CN66 on Feb 28, 2013 13:02:31 GMT -6
i definitely will I am a big believer in spreading the intellectual wealth Knowledge unshared is knowledge wasted You'll be able to pick up a ton from those guys! Our staff visited LaTech a couple years back, Coach Likens and Coach Tommerdahl were great. Spent a considerable amount of time with us, offered up full run of the film room...super friendly to us even though we didn't have a kid who could carry coolers at LaTech. |
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Post by coachbdud on Feb 28, 2013 13:04:50 GMT -6
i definitely will I am a big believer in spreading the intellectual wealth Knowledge unshared is knowledge wasted You'll be able to pick up a ton from those guys! Our staff visited LaTech a couple years back, Coach Likens and Coach Tommerdahl were great. Spent a considerable amount of time with us, offered up full run of the film room...super friendly to us even though we didn't have a kid who could carry coolers at LaTech. I'm hoping I can talk with their OL coach some We always get wrapped up in scheme but I try to improve in my ability to coach my position more than anything else in the off season |
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Post by coachplaa on Mar 1, 2013 0:45:19 GMT -6
Haven't seen the Cal flyer for their coaches clinic yet. What is the date?
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 1, 2013 4:25:44 GMT -6
The college team I spent time learning from last spring was better than attending a coaching clinic. It was time well spent.
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Post by coachplaa on Mar 1, 2013 11:33:58 GMT -6
I totally agree with that.
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 1, 2013 23:50:18 GMT -6
Haven't seen the Cal flyer for their coaches clinic yet. What is the date? I have it in my office at school. It's 2 days, can't remember if it's march 15-16 or 16-17 |
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 2, 2013 11:40:56 GMT -6
Haven't seen the Cal flyer for their coaches clinic yet. What is the date? I have it in my office at school. It's 2 days, can't remember if it's march 15-16 or 16-17 Actually I am pretty positive it is Friday night (3/15) and Saturday morning (3/16) Because I am going to a warrior game that night and remember thats the reason I can't attend the clinic |
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 2, 2013 11:50:05 GMT -6
Update after last night's spring ball visit
Saw some cool stuff at Cal last night
Biggest thing I got was a validation that the things I am trying to do at my school are on point... HC came with me last night (before I came he had always been in some sort of power football offense, the community itself is new to the idea of spread football)so I was trying to show him how the entire staff has bought in to it
The energy from the coaching staff is amazing, that is the key, they all must do lines of blow in the tunnel before coming to the field
Their staff is awesome, very open to talking about things, talked with their inside WR coach for a long time and went over some specifics on a few routes , he was cool
I saw some cool screen things they were doing and they ran something I had never seen, a 4 man version of stick
I am going to write up a blog post some time this weekend when I have time to go a little more in depth into some things I saw that i wasn't already doing
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Post by fballcoachg on Mar 2, 2013 13:35:25 GMT -6
AHHHH a quick call to the snowman is the key to success, I knew there was something we were missing outside of x's and o's!
I like your point about energy but that seems to be one of the harder things to get on a consistent basis at the HS level especially when you can only control your staff so much. Another thing that makes that possible is obviously being very organized but also having your drills set up in advance (or having a system to get them set up in minimal time and not have to reteach them).
Looking forward to that 4 man combo.
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Post by coachbdud on Mar 2, 2013 14:00:06 GMT -6
AHHHH a quick call to the snowman is the key to success, I knew there was something we were missing outside of x's and o's! I like your point about energy but that seems to be one of the harder things to get on a consistent basis at the HS level especially when you can only control your staff so much. Another thing that makes that possible is obviously being very organized but also having your drills set up in advance (or having a system to get them set up in minimal time and not have to reteach them). Looking forward to that 4 man combo. I was trying to show the HC and keep telling him look at their practice... every coach is going 100 MPH at our practice it is only me I am going to try to take a lot of kids from our varsity team with me next Friday night to show them how they practice... We have some seniors who need a reality check on what "work ethic" means and I have some sophomores who are super talented but need to see what tempo looks like |
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