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Post by gators1422 on Feb 26, 2013 21:20:10 GMT -6
We do alot for our kids pregame and I believe it makes a difference. We have pregame music(kids choose) obviously clean. We got a tunnel from the fieldhouse, they have smoke, and a strobe light. We are lucky enough to have been really good the last 2 years but I believe the atmosphere feeds into some of that. A coaching friend of mine who's team came to play us said his team was scared to death(we were way better). Just curious if any of you guys buy into that it helps or not?
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Post by fantom on Feb 26, 2013 22:07:32 GMT -6
I'm not a believer in a lot of pregame festivities. It's a business trip.
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Post by jsk002 on Feb 26, 2013 22:11:43 GMT -6
I am not a big rah-rah guy, so we don't make a big deal about that type of stuff. I want my guys to exclude confidence, I want the other team to know that we expect to win. I don't think there is a right way or a wrong way though. As a coach you have to be comfortable in your skin, and the team will reflect that.
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Post by pirates2012 on Feb 26, 2013 22:46:19 GMT -6
yeah, not a huge pre game person either. We had some music and above the locker room door the word "win" had been painted above the door. It was my first year at the school and I guess its been their tradition since... basically forever and the kids liked it.
before I became a HC I was a DC and on the head coach was a big pre game guy. we had music blarring, etc. our home coming game he gave this huge speech full of intensity and the music was going before hand, etc...
and we got drilled 26-0. so I don't know if its a huge impact or not. I know kids like music when they stretch and warm up but otherwise? I had music on in the locker room but not so loud that if a kid didn't want the music he was completely bothered by it... at least that was the hope.
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Post by coachlarsson on Feb 27, 2013 6:45:18 GMT -6
I don't think pre-game helps performance, but a good atmosphere could have a couple benefits: 1. It will draw more of a crowd; everyone likes a good show and the more kids you involve the more people will show up. 2. Young kids in the stands will think it's pretty cool and want to be a part of it someday.
I'm not a fan of pre-game pep-talks, but I've heard some very motivational and beneficial half-time speeches.
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Post by julien on Feb 27, 2013 7:21:08 GMT -6
I like pre game when it's more about tradition than hype.
Since our last season playoff ride, we have cheerleaders and music on the field during our home game. Players like it a lot and it hasn't been a distraction thus far.
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Post by fballcoachg on Feb 27, 2013 7:53:48 GMT -6
I don't think pre-game helps performance, but a good atmosphere could have a couple benefits: 1. It will draw more of a crowd; everyone likes a good show and the more kids you involve the more people will show up. 2. Young kids in the stands will think it's pretty cool and want to be a part of it someday. I'm not a fan of pre-game pep-talks, but I've heard some very motivational and beneficial half-time speeches. I think that is an often overlooked aspect and benefit...the aspect could be to attract younger kids and create an atmosphere of fun as opposed to hyping your players up (thinking of even the old espn commercial where the guy runs out of his garage with the Miami smoke). That being said we haven't done anything outside of running through the banner and music during warmups, we don't have the means or the tradition/consistency. Sure that smoke and such looks awesome when you are better regardless but you look silly running out of a fire breathing dragon when you get stomped. If you have the means, the kids enjoy it, it isn't detracting, and the fans like it than go for it...no real drawback I suppose.
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Post by CoachKnight55 on Feb 27, 2013 8:19:39 GMT -6
I'm not a believer in the rah rah type things, but I did once hear a coach on our staff say that you only should do this when you are good. I don't agree with that, I think how you enter is one way (no matter how little stock we as coaches put into it) that people recognize your program. And it is something that gets not only your current players, but also your fans, and your future players excited.
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Post by larrymoe on Feb 27, 2013 8:42:17 GMT -6
I'm not a believer in a lot of pregame festivities. It's a business trip. Agreed. Although I do like it when other teams do all that crap. Gets my kids good and pissed off before the game. Some of the most savage games we've played physically have been after teams let off fireworks and came out behind fire trucks and that kind of crap. About the flashiest thing we do to come out is when they announce our starters our kids form a tunnel and the kid being announced runs out the tunnel and usually jumps up and bumps chests with one of the seniors not on that unit being announced.
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Post by CoachKnight55 on Feb 27, 2013 8:46:30 GMT -6
About the flashiest thing we do to come out is when they announce our starters our kids form a tunnel and the kid being announced runs out the tunnel and usually jumps up and bumps chests with one of the seniors not on that unit being announced. I like this
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Post by jgordon1 on Feb 27, 2013 9:01:56 GMT -6
I personally am not a big believer in it BUT I do think it helps build a program...Its funny in the fact as a HC not having a cool pregame was one of the things i was most critisized for
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Post by gators1422 on Feb 27, 2013 9:22:18 GMT -6
I guess my point was more to atmosphere and not necessarily pregame. We lost 2 years ago in the playoffs to tje state champ. Our team was young and I know that atmosphere had something to do with how we played. They were kinda in awe(could have been at how good they were ). I know our kids love what we do, no distraction for us, we are all business on the field.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Feb 27, 2013 11:36:56 GMT -6
I don't real care for the big pre game thing and honestly logistical do to the way teams in wa seem to time things I don't see how it effects things one way or another.
When we come out of the locker room to the field its a good hour and a half before kick off.at this time we might do a little rally at midfield thing and some music plays but then its straight to the stadium locker room. Specialist come out after about 20 min then skill guys then the linemen. Do 10 or so of Indy stuff 10 or so plays for d then o break down to 3 teams run 10 or so more plays on air then back to the locker room last words from hc go do the anthem and play ball.
Some teams try to do a little pre game intro thing ( we don't) if they do we stay in the locker room . Only exception is senior night. Players don't partake in homecoming.
The best point I picked up was from my jc line coach. Guy was the right tackle at ucla when Ogden was the left. He talked about not blowing all your energy early. We try to work pre game at a light pace stay off are feet as much as possible light it up at the 10 play period relax then do are pump up thing right before we get the ball or go out on d. No use being all fired up a hour before the game.
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Post by blb on Feb 27, 2013 11:43:50 GMT -6
I will gladly concede Pre-Game to all our opponents.
When we play at home Cheerleaders do the paper banner thing, Band forms tunnel for players to run through. They jump up and down-pile on and do a "Breakdown" at mid-field before coming to bench as MB plays Fight Song.
Meanwhile I trot my fat azz straight from gate to sideline.
Good enough for who it's for.
If somebody wants to spring for one of those big smoke-spewing helmets, great. But since we have to walk across parking lot from school to field it'd be kind of anti-climactic I think.
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Post by Luther Van Dam on Feb 27, 2013 12:14:33 GMT -6
Not a big deal, in my opinion. Like pregame speeches, the momentum created is very short-lived.
That being said, if it sells the program to young area players and the community...it may be worth exploring in more detail.
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Post by davishfc on Feb 27, 2013 13:26:30 GMT -6
I've coached against those teams that are out to "win" pre-game. Like blb said, I'll concede pre-game every time. Some teams just spend way to much energy during warm-ups and just before kickoff. It's just comical really. We have our routine which is in no way obnoxious or excessive, in my opinion.
Like I said in another thread, we come down the middle of the bleachers because the home side of our stadium is in the side of a hill. We enter in the gate, touch a memorial rock for an alumnist and proceed toward the middle aisle down the steps of our cement bleachers to field level.
Our team walks around the fence to the far goal post and say a prayer. The band forms a tunnel and the cheerleaders have a banner for the them to run through. The team runs through and are introduced as a team. They come together, jump up and down, pile on, and finish with a break down.
Myself and my assistants enter in through another gate and immediately proceed to the sideline well in advance of the team. I believe this routine gets our current players, future players, and the community excited. Of course, numerous wins create the most excitement for any program and we're no exception to that rule.
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Post by tango on Feb 27, 2013 16:52:13 GMT -6
One of the better teams in our area have the ugliest uniforms in the world. Pre game they just toss the ball around. When they break the huddle they look like they can barely walk. Sloppy! Then they come off the ball and kill people. The HC has won everywhere and wants to look lazy. He works the crap out of them.
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Post by mrjvi on Feb 27, 2013 20:55:33 GMT -6
We come out about 15-20 minutes before kick-off. That's it. Our kids like it better. We don't even get to the other team's school until an hour before kick-off. All business, less fluff and energy burn too early.
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Post by jrfalcon on Feb 27, 2013 21:08:19 GMT -6
Our pre-game is very laid back and slowly picks up pace until essentially the coin toss. We will do our Defensive portion of team work starting about 5 mintues before KO and that is when all of the kids start to just get fired up. Works pretty well and I never had to tell them to get excited. Just worked out that way and has stuck ever since.
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 1, 2013 21:27:21 GMT -6
No pregame meal.
But, we have a local guy who is a DJ on the side. He comes to all of our home games, sets up about 2 1/2 hrs before kick off in the endzone with his big A$$ subs and cranks it loud. The way our field sits, we have a a parking all around the stadium, so people come out and tailgate.
He does a good job playing feel good music that first hour or so (Buffett, Classic Rock, Country, etc), then come pre game, he crancks the "Jock Rock" as Scott Cochran of Alabama would say.
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 1, 2013 21:58:27 GMT -6
Our pre-game takes FOREVER. Not so much from rah-rah stuff, but still. Normally skinny skills go out for 7v7, the kick specialist. Then everyone comes in, then goes out together. Then static stretching and indy periods. Then defensive pursuit drill, then offensive script plays, then punt and field goal. Then back in for talk and prayer. Then another prayer on the field, run through a banner and toss a coin.
It is what it is.
With all that being said, After the static stretch they do jumping jacks, spell out the mascot and get a break. During that little period it is a pretty good gauge to find out where their heads are at and if they are hyped for the game or not.
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 1, 2013 23:39:06 GMT -6
At The Zoo the pre-game was almost two hours long. Specialists went out, they came back in, the whole team went out, they came back in, they went back out again. This in addition to a two-hour bus ride for every single road game, and an eternity in the changeroom putting on every single doodad Under Armour sells. We would lose games before kickoff like that. I've never seen someone win a game before kickoff, though. So while I think it's possibly to do it wrong, I don't think there's necessarily a "right" way to do pregame.
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Post by fort on Mar 2, 2013 0:52:50 GMT -6
About 80-90 minutes before KO, we'll get the kids out to the field. They'll toss the ball around, run some routes, the linemen usually like punting for some reason, whatever they want to do; completely informal. We'll get the snappers and specialists some work, but again, nothing formal. Our kids had a hard time with stressing out and being overly nervous, which isn't great when you're already completely up against it like we were all season. Simply a time to kind of cool off, get acclimated to the surroundings, relax a little, etc. I thought it served its purpose pretty well.
The rest of pre-game is "normal." We don't have a lot of money in our program (and I'm poor...), but if someone is willing to buy us all the fancy stuff, more power to them, we'll work it in as long as it's not distracting.
Certainly looking to make our pre-game more efficient and effective. Also, looking for a few new "cool" things to pick up for our intros and stuff. Our locker room is 100+ yards from the field (we have to walk through our "practice field" that is unfortunately also the gameday parking lot), so I think there's probably something there we could do with "the walk." I prefer the lower-key stuff, but it's not about me. If we can figure something out that gets the kids a little more excited without going over the top, awesome.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Mar 2, 2013 6:36:38 GMT -6
We love playing teams with a lot of pregame hype and circumstance. Throughout the week, we talk about it with our players, discuss why teams would feel the need to do what they do, use it to illustrate that the emotion they create with their intro actually feeds our energy, talk about how emotion wanes but playing with energy builds energy, etc. We really try to create, and hopefully get to, a calm confidence. Our kids are introduced as a team of one from the sideline locked arm in arm and it has worked for us.
As a coach, however, I completely understand why teams have great pregames with smoke and tunnels and all that. It must be awesome for their kids and fans.
Since we don't have it, we just mentally prepare our kids for the environment the best we can instead of having them intimidated by it...because I'm sure there are plenty of teams/kids that are.
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Post by John Knight on Mar 2, 2013 6:55:37 GMT -6
Like someone said in another thread, Play Football. I have seen many games lost in pregame. Walk through 2.5 hours before game time, really?? Made me sick!
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Post by carookie on Mar 2, 2013 8:36:02 GMT -6
Something positive to do pre-game, usually in the return to the locker room after stretch and warm ups, I tell my players, "alright, take a minute and visualize the upcoming game. You've watched enough film and know what is gonna happen so I want you to play it out in your mind. Focus on specific plays, you know what we do you know what they're gonna do. Start pre-snap; focus on your feet, your hands, your head. The ball is snapped, what are you doing, how are you beating your opponent? Don't just stop there, run through a few plays, see how you will win."
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Post by tango on Mar 2, 2013 10:08:06 GMT -6
We are a small school and play a few larger schools each year. We always play well on rhe road and a few of the schools we play have as many in their band as we do in the school. When we play these schools at home the fans will not shut up about how many buses they bring. That's the part that gets in our kids head. Crazy!
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Post by blb on Mar 2, 2013 10:45:49 GMT -6
Here's example of effect Pre-Game has:
First Playoff Round last October we're hosting a team that has been to Regional Final or beyond four years running including state titles in '08 and '09. We're both 8-1.
To enter the field for game they did the Ohio State thing where they line up on Goal line in parallel rows with locked arms, rock side to side, then charge over to sideline like the Sioux taking Little Big Horn.
We didn't see it, were still on way across parking lot from lockerroom. But our Press Box coaches said it was impressive.
Second play from scrimmage we're ahead 6-0, win 45-20.
Like I said, I concede Pre-Game.
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Post by dsqa on Mar 4, 2013 8:19:46 GMT -6
As was said and I agree with, I think a celebration of the players by the fans, band, cheerleaders, etc. is great for who it's for...I think it's about all our people rallying behind the kids. Like anything in life, it feels good to feel important to someone, and that's how they feel for a few minutes to their supporters...nothing wrong with that validation after a long week of prep...it just sets the table.
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