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Post by piratefootball on Feb 5, 2013 9:09:12 GMT -6
What are some of the things you guys do on signing day to make it enjoyable / memorable for those signing but possibly to also motivate others?
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 5, 2013 9:43:04 GMT -6
Beg my kids with D2 offers to actually sign... then we would actually have kids going to the next level.
They wonder why nobody recruits the school I'm at, but every time there is a kid with ANY ability, they think they are Alabama-Bound and if they don't get a full-ride, they are "offended" by the offer to only play at a D2 for a partial scholarship.
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Post by rsmith627 on Feb 5, 2013 11:50:25 GMT -6
Beg my kids with D2 offers to actually sign... then we would actually have kids going to the next level. They wonder why nobody recruits the school I'm at, but every time there is a kid with ANY ability, they think they are Alabama-Bound and if they don't get a full-ride, they are "offended" by the offer to only play at a D2 for a partial scholarship. Are you kidding me coach? Our running back would kill to get an offer anywhere. We are working on it but he isn't getting a lot of looks. He's a heck of an athlete, but wasn't as productive as he could have been.
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 5, 2013 12:11:57 GMT -6
Send me a link to his HUDL highlights... I've got some NAIA and D2 contacts looking for LB/RB type kids
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Post by GANNO on Feb 5, 2013 17:12:40 GMT -6
Send me a link to his HUDL highlights... I've got some NAIA and D2 contacts looking for LB/RB type kids Look up the following kid... He played for a conference school who beat the snot out of us the past 3 seasons. He played behind an all-stater once in a world type kid! However, this kid can play! He is an OLB / RB. The kid ahead of him is playing D1. This kid is a definite D2/NAIA kid. www.hudl.com/athlete/176481/cory-farneti
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 5, 2013 17:24:40 GMT -6
Maybe I'm slightly changing the course of the thread, but do any of you feel it's selfish of the player to make college's wait to the last possible day, stringing it out, doing the whole hat thing? I know some will silently tell their recruiter or HC before hand but they are really putting the colleges in a bind.
I kind of on the fence and can see it from a player and a coaches perspective
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Post by silkyice on Feb 5, 2013 17:26:38 GMT -6
Send me a link to his HUDL highlights... I've got some NAIA and D2 contacts looking for LB/RB type kids Look up the following kid... He played for a conference school who beat the snot out of us the past 3 seasons. He played behind an all-stater once in a world type kid! However, this kid can play! He is an OLB / RB. The kid ahead of him is playing D1. This kid is a definite D2/NAIA kid. www.hudl.com/athlete/176481/cory-farneti Probably confused, but a d2 kid isnt starting somewhere?
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 5, 2013 17:29:43 GMT -6
Not when you have a d1 athlete at RB also. But I think u may mean starting at a different position? I'd have him play slot when he isn't in the back field or on defense
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Post by GANNO on Feb 5, 2013 17:44:16 GMT -6
Not when you have a d1 athlete at RB also. But I think u may mean starting at a different position? I'd have him play slot when he isn't in the back field or on defense Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 They run the wing-T... They moved them both around at all three back positions.
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Post by jgordon1 on Feb 5, 2013 18:04:19 GMT -6
Beg my kids with D2 offers to actually sign... then we would actually have kids going to the next level. They wonder why nobody recruits the school I'm at, but every time there is a kid with ANY ability, they think they are Alabama-Bound and if they don't get a full-ride, they are "offended" by the offer to only play at a D2 for a partial scholarship. Last year in our county we had TWO kids turn down FULL rides to "lower" level 1A schools to walk on at VT and UVA..thats what money does to you
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 5, 2013 19:12:15 GMT -6
These kids have 0 other offers... Only offers are at D2 school or NAIA school. Killing me. Pay $15,000 a year to go to school in state and live in an apartment or pay $10,000 a year to play some college football.
Guess I was wired differently than my kids.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 5, 2013 19:16:35 GMT -6
We rarely if ever have d1 talent, but do have some d2 every now and then and definitely d3 players every year but hardly any ever want to play. It's very annoying. Some think D3 is below them although if they ever tried they'd find out in a hurry d3 isn't a joke. Some have tried and quit cause they didn't think d3 was so time consuming and tough.
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Post by jlenwood on Feb 5, 2013 20:41:22 GMT -6
We had a kid get a full ride (wrestling) to an ACC school a couple of years ago, so the school had everyone assemble in the auditorium, there was a big banner from our school and the college. We had some local press. Also the coach got up and talked about how to be prepared when an opportunity like this comes along.......really very cool.
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Post by coachd5085 on Feb 5, 2013 21:09:26 GMT -6
Maybe I'm slightly changing the course of the thread, but do any of you feel it's selfish of the player to make college's wait to the last possible day, stringing it out, doing the whole hat thing? I know some will silently tell their recruiter or HC before hand but they are really putting the colleges in a bind. I kind of on the fence and can see it from a player and a coaches perspective Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Just to clarify though coach, National Signing Day (which has become one of my LEAST favorite days of the year) is the FIRST possible day, not the LAST possible day.
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Post by brophy on Feb 5, 2013 21:18:39 GMT -6
definitely hold an assembly of some sort and coordinate with the parents and make sure you employ your underclassmen in "working" the assembly (as ushers or gofers) to make sure they are there and SEE what that experience is like. brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2010/02/signing-day.htmlThough, 'signing day' is just an afterthought. Its when those college guys are showing up at practice that they should be understanding what is at stake
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Post by fantom on Feb 5, 2013 21:51:05 GMT -6
Maybe I'm slightly changing the course of the thread, but do any of you feel it's selfish of the player to make college's wait to the last possible day, stringing it out, doing the whole hat thing? I know some will silently tell their recruiter or HC before hand but they are really putting the colleges in a bind. I kind of on the fence and can see it from a player and a coaches perspective Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 Just to clarify though coach, National Signing Day (which has become one of my LEAST favorite days of the year) is the FIRST possible day, not the LAST possible day. Right, it's the first day that they can sign an official letter of intent. Nothing that's happened before today has been binding.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 6, 2013 7:11:28 GMT -6
I know this but it's mainly the 4 and 5 star athletes that purposely wait til today eventhough most know way before. It helps the college team greatly when they get a strong verbal ahead of time.
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Post by bigcroz on Feb 6, 2013 7:33:41 GMT -6
I have no problem with a kid waiting as long as he can before singing. Colleges have the ability to offer a kid then pull the offer after a kid has given a verbal and other schools that may have been interested move to other options. The kid should have the same ability. This is the only time the kid will have any leverage in making a decision.
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Post by Mav on Feb 6, 2013 8:22:38 GMT -6
We rarely if ever have d1 talent, but do have some d2 every now and then and definitely d3 players every year but hardly any ever want to play. It's very annoying. Some think D3 is below them although if they ever tried they'd find out in a hurry d3 isn't a joke. Some have tried and quit cause they didn't think d3 was so time consuming and tough. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 I have the same issue with kids not understanding how good D3 football has become. Have them go down to a Salve game and stand near the players and watch a game. They quickly see how big, fast and talented you must be to play there. After seeing them live, I've had a couple of very good HS players actually get intimidated and question whether they could play at that level.
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Post by spos21ram on Feb 6, 2013 9:54:14 GMT -6
We rarely if ever have d1 talent, but do have some d2 every now and then and definitely d3 players every year but hardly any ever want to play. It's very annoying. Some think D3 is below them although if they ever tried they'd find out in a hurry d3 isn't a joke. Some have tried and quit cause they didn't think d3 was so time consuming and tough. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 I have the same issue with kids not understanding how good D3 football has become. Have them go down to a Salve game and stand near the players and watch a game. They quickly see how big, fast and talented you must be to play there. After seeing them live, I've had a couple of very good HS players actually get intimidated and question whether they could play at that level. I played in that conference. And it's good football. Many hs kids don't realize this. There's two types of hs players. Those who would rather play on a 1AA team and never see playing time until maybe their senior year and still not start. Just to say they "play" at that level Then there's kids who would rather start all 4 years at a d2 or d3 school. Which is my advice to many players. That's what I did. I got to start almost every game at my d3 school instead of riding pine for URI Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
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Post by fantom on Feb 6, 2013 10:29:45 GMT -6
I know this but it's mainly the 4 and 5 star athletes that purposely wait til today eventhough most know way before. It helps the college team greatly when they get a strong verbal ahead of time. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 If the kid has options why shouldn't he wait until he's sure? I hate the game of Hat Whack-A-Mole as much as anybody but the schools are as much to blame. They're the ones who pressure 16 year old kids to commit early before some other kid at their position takes their offer. I don't blame the schools but you have to understand that it works both ways.
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Post by fantom on Feb 6, 2013 12:14:07 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 14:03:08 GMT -6
I used to feel the same way spos21ram did...but it's literally the biggest decision they'll make in their lives. I know some may point out some potential nonfootball decisions these guys will make...but even those can come back to what college they picked. I don't fault the guys who wait until they absolutely have to decide before making the decision.
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Post by fantom on Feb 6, 2013 14:11:55 GMT -6
I used to feel the same way spos21ram did...but it's literally the biggest decision they'll make in their lives. I know some may point out some potential nonfootball decisions these guys will make...but even those can come back to what college they picked. I don't fault the guys who wait until they absolutely have to decide before making the decision. I waited until the last day when I decided what college to attend. Of course I was a no-star recruit at a D.3sachool so nobody cared.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2013 14:18:04 GMT -6
I was in a similar situation, Coach. With me, it was go to a D3 and play ball if I could afford it. If I couldn't afford the private school, it was go to a cheaper FCS school where I was no where near good enough to play, even as a walk-on so football wasn't an option. I made the decision so late that I was actually signed up for classes at both places before I finally made up my mind to give college football a try. Still the best decision I've made, which is why now I'm willing to cut some of these guys slack. Not that I need to cut them slack, just saying I can relate!
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Post by cqmiller on Feb 6, 2013 14:37:16 GMT -6
I played NAIA ball baby... Got a ring out of it and tons of contacts. When you are a 6'1" 190 lb QB, you don't get offers to many big places...
After freshman year... 6'3" 240 lbs. Damn parents and our late maturation in my family.
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Post by CN66 on Feb 7, 2013 0:09:34 GMT -6
Beg my kids with D2 offers to actually sign... then we would actually have kids going to the next level. They wonder why nobody recruits the school I'm at, but every time there is a kid with ANY ability, they think they are Alabama-Bound and if they don't get a full-ride, they are "offended" by the offer to only play at a D2 for a partial scholarship. Are you kidding me coach? Our running back would kill to get an offer anywhere. We are working on it but he isn't getting a lot of looks. He's a heck of an athlete, but wasn't as productive as he could have been. We've got a RB in the same boat. Coaches question the talent level of our association and the fact the kids not a one-cut guy, but he's an absolute workhorse with quality feet, great hands and work ethic. He's getting several NAIA programs interested now, which is great. He'd love an offer from anyone, but its been a slow go so far. We're hoping that changes soon with some of the NAIA teams.
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Post by CN66 on Feb 7, 2013 0:16:35 GMT -6
We rarely if ever have d1 talent, but do have some d2 every now and then and definitely d3 players every year but hardly any ever want to play. It's very annoying. Some think D3 is below them although if they ever tried they'd find out in a hurry d3 isn't a joke. Some have tried and quit cause they didn't think d3 was so time consuming and tough. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 I have the same issue with kids not understanding how good D3 football has become. Have them go down to a Salve game and stand near the players and watch a game. They quickly see how big, fast and talented you must be to play there. After seeing them live, I've had a couple of very good HS players actually get intimidated and question whether they could play at that level. Absolutely agree on the quality of D3 football. Hendrix is adding the sport in Arkansas, making them the only D3 football playing school in the state. Hopefully kids in the area take notice of the caliber of play. We've got a young man visiting Greenville College soon, he's been very impressed with the talent in their program. Love listening to D3 coaches at clinics, as well. I think a lot of their ideas on field/in program really transition well to the high school level with time/budget/etc regulations and limits they deal with.
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