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Post by coachiminime on Jan 26, 2013 21:26:27 GMT -6
Anybody have plans on how to practice together for Varisty and JV. We have six coaches for both teams, Varisty games are on fri night or sat at 2, while JV games are at 9am saturday. We only have about 50 kids between the two teams, any help would be greatly appreciated
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Post by smfreeman on Jan 27, 2013 8:15:33 GMT -6
Do you have defined teams? What I mean by that is do you have enough quality players to split up your JV and Varsity during practice? I know you have 50 kids but when we would try to split up our kids we would never have enough lineman for scrimmage. If you are talking about splitting up during indy periods and group periods then I would have JV practice defense and Varsity practice offense then switch the next day.
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Post by coachiminime on Jan 27, 2013 10:05:39 GMT -6
coach i'm not sure yet if we have enough quality players. How would you split things up if you did? The way you explained it that means, each coach would only coach one side of the ball?
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Post by coachb23 on Jan 27, 2013 13:54:02 GMT -6
The idea I've always had (and I welcome feedback because I've never had enough players to try it), is to run two huddles at the same time. So for example when practicing group or team offense, your Varsity offense would run a play vs the Varsity Scout D, then the JV would run the same play vs the JV Scout D. Meanwhile the Varsity O and Scout D are getting the next play while the JVs running & you keep the cycle running at a quick tempo. Coach one group between reps. This requires at least 33 kids, of course you don't want to lose quality of players and have 130lb kids playing Scout D-Line.
You could then do the same thing during group/team defense time. Or, if your program was really large (60+ kids on the squad), you could put your coaches at midfield and the Varsity & JV offenses on one 40yd line and the Varsity & JV defenses on the opposite 40yd line and run Offense and Defense at the same time on opposite sides of the field.
Just an idea until I can actually have enough kids to try it out in practice. Feedback is certainly welcome.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 27, 2013 17:14:59 GMT -6
We have always had our 9-12 practice together just because we have no choice being a small school. We usually top out around 50 so same as OP. As far as practice, well we jut practice. I mean it's not rocket science. Since you have 6 coaches for each level just have the jv guys do what the varsity guys are doing during indy but make sure they match up when your doing any hitting. When I take our OL from indy I just say older guys with me and younger guys with the other OL coaches. They do the same drills and we get more reps that way.
From my experience having 50 kids means you probably aren't going to be able to get a real quality scout team with out the younger kids being in there. Just keep an eye on them and make sure you don't have your #50 kid in there against your #1 kid. We will give the jv's some time to run O/D against a scout jv each day as well.
I also think this is a great way to really get to know your kids since you can coach them for all 4 years. One of the biggest bonuses of being in a small school setting IMHO.
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Post by smfreeman on Jan 27, 2013 17:32:17 GMT -6
For the last two years I worked at a school where we only coached one side of the ball. I am going into my first season as a HC and have set up my staff to only coach one side of the ball. I copied from my last school and this is how we work our practices with only 8 total coaches in the whole program. You can easily do this with 6 coaches but it will be more work on the coaches.
Monday
Varsity: Film, Lift, and Install
JV: Plays Game
Only two coaches go with the JV so we have and OC and a DC with one being the HC
Tuesday
Varsity: Defense
JV: Offense
You could have 3 dedicated Defensive staff coaching Varsity defense and 3 coaches working with JV offense. If you do not have enough to scrimmage have your JV come down and work together during those periods for team.
Wednesday
Just flip everything
Thursday
This is our Pre-game practice so it is mostly special teams with everyone together. I have always had JV kids on special teams
Friday
Game Day
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Post by irishdog on Jan 27, 2013 18:20:06 GMT -6
You gotta know your players first. During the first week of pre-season acclimatization practices we have the Juniors and Seniors match-up - Sophomores and Freshmen match-up. Eventually the cream will rise to the top, and you'll see you may have a junior or two who are more at the level of a sophomore (or even a freshman); and maybe a few sophomores who can compete with juniors (or maybe a senior). At that point you begin to split the team up into two distinct teams without calling them varsity and JV. After the first week we put them into contact drills - Big on Big-Skill on Skill-Tough on Tough to find out who our likely varsity players will be, and who our likely JV players will be. During the first week we hardly ever do ANY full team work. If and when we do it is always against air (used for play knowledge and conditioning) and we always have the "varsity veterans", juniors, and older rookies work together; and have the "young guys" (sophomores, freshmen, and younger rookies) work together. We don't post a varsity roster until after our scrimmages. This helps tremendously in keeping ALL of our kids competitive during the dog days. When we start after-school practices our JV games are on Thursday nights so the JV lift on Mondays and Tuesdays before practice, do all individual non-contact drills with the varsity players and coaches - do their group contact drills separately (but do the same drills as the varsity) - and when varsity does their team session the JV separate and do their team session and finish with their own special teams session. Doing it this way we went from a JV team of 15 my first year, to a JV team of 25 in my second year. Good news spreads fast!
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 28, 2013 9:52:57 GMT -6
We have about 110ish that practice varsity and JV. However we don't split them up. In SC, a kid can play 8 quarters a week so, our 2s start on Thursday night (JV). Now some may have to fill a scout team roll in some way, but we lump them all together in practice.
It is great coming teaching/indy time b/c I always have enough guys around to hold dummies, chase balls, be WR/RB/Ball carriers. The one thing I have to be careful cognizant of is time for reps in team periods.
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