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Post by smashmouth1 on Jan 23, 2013 12:49:39 GMT -6
I was just curious about how many teams practice on Saturday's. I have always felt that it was a good day off for the kids to rest their soreness from the previous night's game. However, many coaches I spoken with lately believe that Saturday is a great day to condition and watch film because it gets their soreness out. They also do a full live practice on Monday. Our Monday's have usually consisted of film and condidtioning. I was just curious how different schools do thier rotuines.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 23, 2013 12:55:37 GMT -6
Lift and watch film is what I would do if it were my call.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jan 23, 2013 13:03:58 GMT -6
We do practice on Saturdays- to a point.
Saturday was our film review and light running. (Monday AM we did our upcoming opponents film review)
We have road trips of over 400 miles round trip, so sometimes we that next that morning off (if we get back well past midnight).
I was new this year- so HUDL was new to our guys (so was watching film). Once we got to 100% of the varsity spending time during the week on HUDL, we gave a Saturday off.
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Post by btex0127 on Jan 23, 2013 13:38:48 GMT -6
We come in lift, light conditioning, and film. Also a chance to see kids who are hurt and get treatment.
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Post by bluboy on Jan 23, 2013 14:40:58 GMT -6
We play Friday nights and bring in our kids on Saturday morning. From 8:30-9:30 the guys who played have a weight workout run by 3 of the staff. The other coaches start breaking down film, while the JV coach has a walk-through with the JV guys. At 9:30 the guys who played in the game watch the previous night's game-no longer than an hour. The JV guys can stay and watch if they want, or they can leave. It's not mandatory for them. By noon Saturday, that game is behind us.
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Post by nhs40 on Jan 23, 2013 20:21:00 GMT -6
We bring our varsity kids in around 8:30 or 9 am on Saturday. We begin with an easy trip around our track, some static stretching, some dynamic stretching, and then work on further working out soreness with some build-up sprints and light sled work. We then lift for about a half hour, and finish with about a half hour to forty-five minutes of film of the previous night. Monday's are scouting report, opponent video, walk-thru of top offensive and defensive plays, any of our adjustments, some semi-live tackling (not to ground), and then end with a good lift for varsity and jv.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 23, 2013 21:03:19 GMT -6
When I played varsity and jv came in early Saturday. Saturday was JV games and varsity did a quick jog and watched the previous nights game. If JV was at home varsity would typically stick around and support them. I liked the set up. We currently don't do that but it's partially because our zone is so big, it would be one extra migraine to get all of our kids there, and our JVs play midweek.
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Post by coachplaa on Jan 23, 2013 21:45:50 GMT -6
I'm probably going to be in the minority here, but we give players Saturdays off. The only exception would be if we have an upcoming Thursday night game, or if we feel like it is necessary in the playoffs. Our coaches grade film from home on Saturdays, and send notes via Hudl to players. By Monday, kids are supposed to turn in a homework half-sheet to their position coach. It basically is a short review of their effort, something they did well, and something they need to work on. They also have to open up the scout film, write down the number of their opponent, his strength and weakness. We don't expect a perfect form turned in, just something that shows us they opened up Hudl and did some film work on their own.
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Post by holmesbend on Jan 23, 2013 23:13:46 GMT -6
^^With you here, too, we don't do anything either. No offense to those that do, because I've got some coaching buddies of mine that do it, but I think it's one of those things that sounds a lot better than the results actually reflect. Just my 2 cents, though. If worth that......
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Post by coachplaa on Jan 23, 2013 23:17:40 GMT -6
Agreed. I respect those that do. Its just too much for me. I found myself not looking forward to Saturday practices when I DID do them, and if I felt that way I figured many did, which made them counterproductive.
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Post by blb on Jan 24, 2013 6:49:18 GMT -6
Saturdays are days off in-season.
Kids need time to be kids, coaches have families, and I debrief by watching CFB while breaking down trade DVDs.
Only Saturday practices we ever have are "Meet Your Team Day" at end of first week and if we are playing a Thursday game (week before Labor Day for ex.)
If I wanted to work (at school) seven days a week I'd go back to coaching college.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jan 24, 2013 6:54:31 GMT -6
The more I think about it, the more I agree with the no Saturday folks. There isn't anything I can't get to them that hudl won't already let me do and I appreciate our HC giving us Saturday as a family/individual work day.
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Post by John Knight on Jan 24, 2013 7:34:47 GMT -6
Only problem with that is that you don't see a kid until Monday after school. If he is hurt it is way too late for treatment and if he was doing something late on Friday night that he shouldn't have been doing you won't know it unless the cops were involved or some busy body gets wind of it later that next week. I don't think you need to do much but you need to see them. If aa kid wants to go to a college game or HAS to work, that is excused.
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Post by blb on Jan 24, 2013 7:46:03 GMT -6
Only problem with that is that you don't see a kid until Monday after school. If he is hurt it is way too late for treatment and if he was doing something late on Friday night that he shouldn't have been doing you won't know it unless the cops were involved or some busy body gets wind of it later that next week. I don't think you need to do much but you need to see them. If aa kid wants to go to a college game or HAS to work, that is excused. If a kid wakes up with a boo-boo or owie Saturday morning they can RICE it. If it's worse they can see our trainer at local Sports Med Clinic. If they go out and act a fool Friday night (has not been a problem, most of our kids go to local pizza place or each other's houses and watch scores-highlights) I'll hear about it whether I'm at home or dragging my fat azz into school. And if they're going to, having a Saturday morning practice or meeting isn't going to stop the ones that would. We watch film Sunday night 5-7 pm so we don't have to wait until next week to see them. I'm not going to play detective or judge about whose Saturday morning excuses are valid and whose aren't. And the Number One reason we don't do anything on Saturday: I don't want to. And I'm the head coach. So that's that. He11 after a big win I may not be sober yet. Maybe a bad loss, too. |
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Post by coach31 on Jan 24, 2013 11:00:25 GMT -6
We don't come in on Saturday. We actually end up playing a couple of Sat afternoon games, so it's not always an off day. We have traditionally had JV games on Mondays. Their is a push by some schools to play JV Sat in the morning.
For the guys that watch the film Sat, when/how to you break it down?
We spend a good amount of time on watching ourselves. It takes me about 2 hours to input the game in HUDL, I coach QBs and WRs, after breakdown it's another hour or so to grade. If we are done (bus unloaded kids gone) at 10 on friday, the logistics of bringing kids in at 9 on sat seem really tight.
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Post by nhs40 on Jan 24, 2013 18:50:10 GMT -6
As HC, I take the game film Friday night and watch it through at least once (with multiple rewinds), to see what glaring problems we had (wrong assignments, dropping head on tackles, etc) that we really want to emphasize the next morning. When we (the coaches) get together Saturday morning (normally around 7 or a little earlier), we talk about what I saw, then watch the film together. We each pick out several things we want to address with the varsity. We try to limit how much our kids watch of ourselves, except for the purpose of correcting mistakes (hard to argue "I didn't do that," when we can show them on film and everyone else sees the same thing!). We don't spend any time grading our kids (not officially, though we can all tell you what mistakes Bobby made repeatedly, etc.). Our focus is a quick review of what we did well (even if we got beat), what we need to work on (even if we win), and then we start talking about our next opponent before we go watch our JV's play. We do give 2 to 3 Saturdays off during the season to rest, recover, and "get away" a little, especially if we have an opponent that we match up better with.
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Post by mholst40 on Jan 25, 2013 0:01:53 GMT -6
I've constantly gone back and forth with this one.
For the past four seasons we have had Saturday morning practice from 9:00-11:30 am. We watch film on offense and defense (we don't platoon). We also talk about the previous night's game and wrap it up. This also serves as a time for us to lift (we don't have an athletic period).
Hudl has made it easier to do without this weekend practice. I would be more inclined to give it up now that players can read notes on a mobile device. This past season, they couldn't see notes, so that wouldn't have served its full purpose.
I'm still on the fence with this one. Saturday morning practices do set me back further in the game review and breakdown process for the next week.
If we had an athletic period, there is no way we'd have Saturday practices.
Luckily for us, we get a 2-week fall break, so on those weeks we don't practice on Saturdays since we can spend more time daily on football during the week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2013 5:51:50 GMT -6
We don't have Saturday practice got the same reasons BLB mentioned. The kids get to unwind, coaches get the day off and everybody has got a break before the grind starts on Monday. I know it allows coaches to get out to see former players play and see family.
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Post by mrjvi on Jan 25, 2013 6:15:57 GMT -6
We have games on Saturdays and Fridays, either JV or varsity(both Saturday or one each). Nothing Sundays except coaches calling or meeting on their own because I expect the plan to be presented after practice on Monday.
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Post by silkyice on Jan 26, 2013 11:03:08 GMT -6
We go on Saturday mornings 9am to 10:15. If they miss for any reason (unless at doctor) they owe me a 100 yard bear crawl on Monday and they have to watch the film with me sometime Monday.
1) We clean up the fieldhouse. It is trashed on Friday nights.
2) We warmup for about 2 minutes and jog once around the goalpost.
3) We get a biscuit and watch Friday nights game. Parents bring the biscuits. We are fortunate.
We do this for several reasons:
1) We have a 24 hour rule. You can only celebrate or mourn a loss for 24 hours, so I want to put the game to bed within 24 hours. No one wants to dread watching film all weekend. I have things that I need to correct or get off my chest. I don't want to wait. After a win, I don't want them thinking they are all great on Monday when we have to get ready to work.
2) We don't have a good time on Monday to do it. We lift, condition, and practice on Monday. Out JV's play on Monday.
3) I want the players to do something active to relieve the soreness and stiffness. I believe this helps our Monday weights and practice.
4) I can get my eyes on anyone who is injured. Many times players don't realize until they wake up on Saturday that something is wrong. I might not see them until Monday afternoon. That 2.5 days of rehab can many times make the difference between playing on the next Friday or not. The can rehab Saturday morning, afternoon, and night. Same for Sunday on their own with prescribed exercises. The can go to rehab on Monday morning. That is SEVEN rehab opportunities that they otherwise might not get.
5) Cut any partying to one night instead of two. They don't go partying knowing they have to see me the next morning.
6) We don't do anything else on the weekends with them.
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Post by mholst40 on Jan 26, 2013 14:38:10 GMT -6
5) Cut any partying to one night instead of two. They don't go partying knowing they have to see me the next morning. This is one reason we like it too! Our players are way less likely to go out on Friday nights when they know they have a practice the next day! |
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Post by irishdog on Jan 26, 2013 15:42:45 GMT -6
Saturday:
Coaches in at 7:30 (Assistants finish the laundry - HC/OC/DC meet)
8:00 Staff reviews Friday night's game
9:00 Players arrive for light weight workout and short run (strength coach oversees it)
9:30 Staff meeting to discuss personnel
10:00 Players watch Friday night's game w/HC (Assistants break down opponent scout film)
(HC has already reviewed film - we have HUDL and exchange on Thursdays)
11:00 Players dismissed - Staff meeting to discuss opponent, game plan etc.
11:30 Done (All coaches have access to HUDL and independently review scout films over the weekend) for big games, playoffs etc. we will stay longer (noon) - I have always believed in the old adage "over-analysis leads to paralysis".
Very informal, but a great way to connect with the players (injuries etc.) and with the coaching staff before enjoying the weekend. We do not meet on Sundays.
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Post by rsmith627 on Jan 26, 2013 15:45:23 GMT -6
Here in Mormon run Utah if we are going to do anything with our players over the weekend, it has to be on Saturday. We usually bring them in at about 8am, have them condition for a half hour, and then we do film til about 10:30 or 11. It's a real light day, as we do want them to be able to rest off their owies.
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Post by coachhusrey on Jan 26, 2013 17:59:40 GMT -6
I love practicing on Saturdays before the season, but I coach in Europe so its a great day where everyone can be there
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Post by smashmouth1 on Jan 29, 2013 14:21:06 GMT -6
I have the same dillema that most of you here do. There are huge upsides to using Saturday as a day to watch film, but when you let kids be kids and coaches enjoy their families on both saturday and sunday, hopefully it gets everyone to look forward to monday and get as much done as possible.
In the past when I've had Saturday practices, I felt like the kids got burnt out easy. I want to keep the kids as fresh as possible. As a coach, I love Saturdays because while watching CFB, I'm able to break down the previous night's film all day.
I was just curious how everyone did it, sometimes I felt like I was the only one not practicing on Saturdays.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 29, 2013 14:29:21 GMT -6
My kids DO NOT watch film the right way if I just "let them do it"... Saturday film-time is when I get to coach those kids on how to learn from their own mistakes rather than just "WATCH THE BALL" and "LOOK AT MY TOUCHDOWNS"
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Post by irishdog on Jan 29, 2013 16:19:57 GMT -6
My kids DO NOT watch film the right way if I just "let them do it"... Saturday film-time is when I get to coach those kids on how to learn from their own mistakes rather than just "WATCH THE BALL" and "LOOK AT MY TOUCHDOWNS" Good point. That's NOT how MY Saturday schedule was run, but that's how our current HC runs his. I poked my head into the film room once this year and what you describe is exactly what I saw and heard. And he always comments how he wishes they would take watching film more seriously. I offered him my Saturday schedule to use but he declined. So...I offer to stay on Saturday with the kids who want to stay (mostly linemen) and watch the film with me (I'm the OC and O Line coach). By the way...the O Linemen graded out much higher on film than any other group. |
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 29, 2013 16:35:41 GMT -6
I have the same dillema that most of you here do. There are huge upsides to using Saturday as a day to watch film, but when you let kids be kids and coaches enjoy their families on both saturday and sunday, hopefully it gets everyone to look forward to monday and get as much done as possible. In the past when I've had Saturday practices, I felt like the kids got burnt out easy. I want to keep the kids as fresh as possible. As a coach, I love Saturdays because while watching CFB, I'm able to break down the previous night's film all day. I was just curious how everyone did it, sometimes I felt like I was the only one not practicing on Saturdays. Sometimes we do, sometimes we dont. If I am burnt a bit...we do not. |
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Post by shawka on Jan 29, 2013 16:58:06 GMT -6
We come in lift, light conditioning, and film. Also a chance to see kids who are hurt and get treatment. Same with us. We start with film. Put an end to that week and move on. "Flush it", Monday is a new week. No looking back. Our light condidtioning is more of a good stretch. As far as participation goes, anyone that was on the field Friday night for at least 1 play is expected to be there. We do not start until EVERYONE is there. We make the captains pick up kids (get them out of bed) or make phone calls to get the kids there. We usually have milk and donouts for the kids. After a few weeks we have the last person to show up pick up the milk & donouts the following week. |
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Post by blb on Jan 29, 2013 17:50:58 GMT -6
How many of you watch and/or breakdown-grade your game film Friday night before players come in Saturday morning?
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