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Post by coachbw on Jan 16, 2013 13:53:54 GMT -6
Just curious how you guys decide how many captains to have and why? Do you have a set number (4 seems common around here) every year regardless? Do you take a certain percentage of the team or the senior class? Do you take as many as stand out as really high quality leaders? In the past couple of stops we haven't had captains, choosing instead to try to develop the leadership skills of all upperclassmen. We are going to go back to captains, but I don't have a set philosophy that would guide me on this. I'm curious what other people are doing, and probably more importantly why you have chosen to go that way. Thanks guys.
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Post by newhope on Jan 16, 2013 13:57:04 GMT -6
It often depends on the leadership available, but we usually have 4---the number you're allowed to send out. Some years we have 4 who stand out and they are captains all year. Other years we had 3 and then rotated the 4th one from week to week.
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Post by fantom on Jan 16, 2013 14:39:14 GMT -6
Just curious how you guys decide how many captains to have and why? Do you have a set number (4 seems common around here) every year regardless? Do you take a certain percentage of the team or the senior class? Do you take as many as stand out as really high quality leaders? In the past couple of stops we haven't had captains, choosing instead to try to develop the leadership skills of all upperclassmen. We are going to go back to captains, but I don't have a set philosophy that would guide me on this. I'm curious what other people are doing, and probably more importantly why you have chosen to go that way. Thanks guys. However many deserve it. If you don't have four real leaders don't appoint four. If more than four deserve it go with all of them .
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 16, 2013 15:30:29 GMT -6
We always have the discussion with our players about the difference between a "Leader" and a "Captain"...
You may be a leader, but not a captain... You may be a captain, but not a leader...
The great ones are both!
For us, all varsity starters or players that are key-contributors on the varsity level (projected or from previous year) that reach 90% attendance in offseason, meet all goals for fundraising, and have no off-field issues are named captains.
Last year we had 5, so 1 sat out each week. Each kid was on field for coin toss 8 times and out 2 times.
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Post by coachjd on Jan 16, 2013 18:13:13 GMT -6
Do you really need captains??? We had a very long heated at time discussion last summer about it. We want all seniors assume a leadership roll. We know not all do well with this and some do way better with communication and leadership. We named all of our seniors as leaders and announced 2-4 kids based on the weeks efforts, leadership, etc.... as game captains each Thursday. Kids loved it.
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Post by joboo59 on Jan 16, 2013 20:40:13 GMT -6
4 Players vote on them. In the event of a tie we rotate.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Jan 16, 2013 21:26:46 GMT -6
I think it has to be a year by year thing. If you don't have four, don't have four. If you have more than four, you can have more than 4 captains.
cqmiller makes a great point, and the fact is you can pick all the captains you want. Leaders are leaders, with or without the title. And slapping a "Captain" label on a kid won't make everyone else follow him either.
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Post by keysersoze on Jan 16, 2013 22:17:23 GMT -6
I coached on a staff where the head coach told the team to write down as many names on a piece of paper as they thought were team leaders. Three kids names kept popping up so we had three captains.
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Post by pvogel on Jan 17, 2013 2:06:55 GMT -6
I've seen it done where there are 6 "captains" throughout the season. They lead stretches, practices, etc.
And then for the toss 2 of those guys go and 2 non-captain seniors go. It rotates weekly and all seniors get a chance to be a game "captain".
I kinda like that model.
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Post by shields on Jan 17, 2013 5:04:19 GMT -6
Instead of doing Captains in the traditional sense, we have Players of the Game. At Sunday meetings, the coaches decide on an Offensive, Defensive, and Special Teams Player of the game. Those three will be revealed at our team meal the following Friday and awarded a POW t-shirt. The fourth captain is nominated Thursday night following the Varsity walk through. The coaches nominate a Scout Team Player of the Week--the guy who worked his tail off in practice that week and made the starters better. This player also receives a t-shirt and is named at pre-game meal. He can be a Varsity or JV player.
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Post by 1ring on Jan 17, 2013 8:31:22 GMT -6
6 two each unit
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 17, 2013 8:49:25 GMT -6
We range from year to year. We usually have 4, but have had as few as 2.
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Post by spos21ram on Jan 17, 2013 8:52:57 GMT -6
How do you decide who goes out for the coin toss? Rotate? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using proboards
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Post by 1ring on Jan 17, 2013 9:14:08 GMT -6
Rotate all by, 2 captains with 2 other seniors in non district. Coin toss 4 is the limit of course. District, only rotate your 6 captains by letting 2 sit out on the coin toss. Coin captains do not mean that they are speaking captains during the game.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 17, 2013 10:13:23 GMT -6
We had really good captains this year. We had five. We have the kids NOMINATE them and I choose them. I tell them we will have between one and five. The players have to answer the following questions and put their own name on the form. There is no secret ballot.
1. Who has worked the hardest since last season ended? 2. Who has worked the hardest in practice? 3. Who do you look to on the field in a tough situation? 4. Who best represents our program in the classroom and community.
Then we tally up the nominations and talk about it as coaches.
The players can nominate any varsity player. This year we had three seniors and two juniors. The juniors are not automatically captains again next year, though in all honesty they probably will be.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 17, 2013 12:20:54 GMT -6
We did the vote thing and I always had to override the votes because the kid who floats on a 1.8 - 2.2 GPA and shows about 50% of the time would always be voted by EVERYONE, because he was the "stud" in little-league for that age-group.
Now we do it completely based on merit that we measure for EVERY player in the program. I'm really close to having my 2 spreadsheets done that we use.... I'll share with everyone when finished later today.
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 17, 2013 12:23:32 GMT -6
Yes please share.
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Post by coachgeorge51 on Jan 17, 2013 20:13:09 GMT -6
I use an application process that includes two letters of recommendation, a 5 paragraph paper on their leadership style, and a formal interview with varsity staff, previous year's captains, and an administrator. We will choose 4 and only 4. The others who apply will be mentors in our huddle group program. So, its a win-win for all those who apply.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 17, 2013 20:17:53 GMT -6
This 1st one keeps track of each player, ID number, paperwork needed, fundraising money turned in, 7on7 money and waivers, additional items given to them, equipment issued, then attendance for the off-season and in-season, as well as the maxes and times we test: Football Paperwork FileThe attendance is auto-calculating, so all you do is on the very top line in the sheet put the number of "points" they can earn that day, and then when you type in each kids square it ill automatically keep track of the totals on the 2nd page in the purple boxes... pretty handy. This second one is the sheet that we use for the offseason lifting program... It is linked to the 1st one, so make sure you put both files in the same folder and when it asks where the "other file" is, browse and connect them. The 1st page is the program we use in the offseason, 2nd page has % charts for all weights up to 900 pounds, 3rd sheet is setup to put top 10 lists together for all the things we track, 4th sheet is used to sort all the numbers copied from the maxout sheet in the other page. The sheets after that are setup to look up each kid from the sheet as well as their max numbers, and it tells them exactly the weight they need to lift to meet the requirement: Weight Training ProgramPlay around with them and see how they work... if you can use them and modify to fit your program... awesome. If you notice any errors, please let me know and I can fix them. Now that I think about it, I am gonna have to go modify all those cells to "round" to the nearest 5 pounds or I will get decimals!
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Post by Chris Clement on Jan 17, 2013 20:23:10 GMT -6
I use an application process that includes two letters of recommendation, a 5 paragraph paper on their leadership style, and a formal interview with varsity staff, previous year's captains, and an administrator. We will choose 4 and only 4. The others who apply will be mentors in our huddle group program. So, its a win-win for all those who apply. Just how much free time do you have?
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Post by brian3413 on Jan 18, 2013 14:39:26 GMT -6
Does everyone elect their captains in fall camp? If I become a head coach I am thinking of electing captains at the beginning of summer workouts when there is more freedom for them and they need more leadership.
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 18, 2013 14:53:58 GMT -6
Does everyone elect their captains in fall camp? If I become a head coach I am thinking of electing captains at the beginning of summer workouts when there is more freedom for them and they need more leadership. I have seen that done, but in my experience... you name them that early, they get a sense of entitlement and it has caused issues.
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Post by mushroom on Jan 22, 2013 11:39:55 GMT -6
Does everyone elect their captains in fall camp? If I become a head coach I am thinking of electing captains at the beginning of summer workouts when there is more freedom for them and they need more leadership. I have seen that done, but in my experience... you name them that early, they get a sense of entitlement and it has caused issues. CQ is right on point. I have made that mistake and it cost us. What we are going to do this time around is see who shows up and works their tail off from now until camp in the fall. Then the coaches and I will select from that group who will be captain and doesn't necessarily have to be a senior.
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Post by blb on Jan 22, 2013 12:15:22 GMT -6
I have done four (NFHS rules you can only send that many out for coin toss) when I was at a big school but am back to two because that's usually how many deserving, true leaders we have.
We vote Friday of first week, announce them the next morning at Meet Your Team Day. until then kids who were at all Summer Conditioning workouts lead stretching-cals.
Kids have 25 (or however many players we have) votes, I have 26. Have never felt it necessary to use them.
One year had to break a tie. Two years ago we had a three-way tie, felt all three were deserving, so we had Tri-Captains.
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Post by 10forhim56 on Jan 23, 2013 12:48:46 GMT -6
we select based on three criteria: 1. Overall GPA 2. Rank taken from August max out (We max in 7 categories: Squat,Bench, Incline, Power Clean, 40, shuttle, 400, then rank them based off of their numbers) 3. Summer weight room attendance for senior summer.
Only seniors are selected.
We have had great captains every year, this year though, our true team leaders were not captains: so, they were the speaking captains throughout the course of the game.
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Post by ramsoc on Feb 5, 2013 0:09:16 GMT -6
We have 4 every week. They rotate based on practice performance. So we could have 4 studs out there or 4 guys who might never see the field but busted their ass in practice that week or some combination.
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