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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 30, 2007 7:41:05 GMT -6
Coaches I am in a dilemma here. I was sitting at home last weekend was I decided to break down our film and simply write down all the mistakes we made that had nothing to do with physical talent. In that I mean mental mistakes, lack of hustle, not blocking anyone and just anything in general that had to do with the non physical side of the game. Just watching the offensive side I filled up almost 6 pages, for one game! I was firmly convinced before, not even more such, that we got beat last year in the mental game and in only one game did we actually get physically breat down.
What I was wondering was how you coaches would go about approaching this problem? We are physically able to play with every team in our league but the mental mistakes is what kills us. Should i show them the film and point out all the mistakes, or share with them what I came up with on paper? Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2007 7:49:28 GMT -6
Do you grade them for things like this? Just from a defensive side of things if we aren't running in pursuit, finishing off plays, diving for thrown balls, etc. then the player gets a "zero" for a loaf. We do helmet stickers, team awards, etc. and enough zeroes and you won't have a high enough score.
But a sticker is just a sticker. I think the message has to come from what the sticker is about, the effort involved, etc.
I think it has to be a thing settled in practice. At some point in practice I'd bet those guys started doing those things and you play how you practice. Go back to your practice film and see if it happens. Then fix it in practice. Then grade it in game film.
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Post by jaspercoach on Jan 30, 2007 8:03:42 GMT -6
I agree with the previous coach. I am an offensive line coach and I grade every lineman on every play when I break-down film. The get a score of 0 to 3. They get a 0 for a mental error and only get one point taken away for getting physically beat. There is no excuse for mental errors. Yes, I show them the film and go through each mistake. We have tests on blocking rules and get in a ton of reps on each play there is no reason they should miss an assignment. Loafing is another thing that can never happpen. Go hard or Go home. I tell them if you miss your assignment and block the wrong guy you better do it at full speed. If you loaf you are replaced, no exceptions.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 30, 2007 8:47:05 GMT -6
Do you grade them for things like this? Just from a defensive side of things if we aren't running in pursuit, finishing off plays, diving for thrown balls, etc. then the player gets a "zero" for a loaf. We do helmet stickers, team awards, etc. and enough zeroes and you won't have a high enough score. But a sticker is just a sticker. I think the message has to come from what the sticker is about, the effort involved, etc. I think it has to be a thing settled in practice. At some point in practice I'd bet those guys started doing those things and you play how you practice. Go back to your practice film and see if it happens. Then fix it in practice. Then grade it in game film. I do not grade them, but i can try starting that next year. The problem that I have is these kids were beat up mentally by the last coaching staff here. We inherited a 29 game losing streak coming into last season and it took almost half the season for these kids to even open up to us. We did manage to win 2 of our last 4 but this is a school that has had tradition in the past and we have the athletes to bring that back. I guess my main question would be is how to instill that mental toughness and understanding of the game. |
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Post by spartancoach on Jan 30, 2007 9:26:58 GMT -6
I think its how you conduct practice and, more importantly, how you conduct yourself at practice. If the coaching staff is busting with enthusiasm, the players soon will be as well. Practice game situations during group and team period and demand that all coaches do so with exaggerated positive energy.
I heard a seminar speaker once say: "Coach like your hair is on fire and, eventually, the players will play like their hair is on fire."
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Post by 20x on Jan 30, 2007 9:32:59 GMT -6
What do you guys about think having negative points for loafing and mental errors when you are grading your players. The impact on the game when you have players loafing and making continuous mental mistakes is huge.
I am really thinking about changing my grading next year to include the negatives.
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Post by wingtol on Jan 30, 2007 10:15:23 GMT -6
Let me ask you this: why are they making the mistakes? are they confused about assignments? do they understand the term. you use with them? are your ol rules sound and are you confidant that you can block most fronts using them? does your system make sense?
I have found that sometimes you might be teaching them something using term's you are comfrotbale with but the players have no idea what you are talking about. Be sure to be very specific when pointing stuff out.
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 30, 2007 11:35:34 GMT -6
Let me ask you this: why are they making the mistakes? are they confused about assignments? do they understand the term. you use with them? are your ol rules sound and are you confidant that you can block most fronts using them? does your system make sense? I have found that sometimes you might be teaching them something using term's you are comfrotbale with but the players have no idea what you are talking about. Be sure to be very specific when pointing stuff out. For our team it is not scheme stuff its the real little things. When we have three lead blockers, on a toss sweep, and they do not touch a sole and let two or three guys run by them and make a tackle. I mean if some kid can not understand the assignment of block the first man that shows than he should not be playing football anyways, because that is about as simple as it gets. Or when we tell them daily to line up one yard off the ball if they are in the slot, and the next thing I see they are 5 yards off the ball in line with our tailback. Or when another team shows two blitzing linebackers up the middle and brings them and we let them go untouched. Hard to throw much when our QB gets a step and a half in his drop and is sacked. In my eyes, these are the basics of any assignments and if they can not handle these than they, and we as a team, are im trouble. |
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Post by wingtol on Jan 30, 2007 11:56:33 GMT -6
I was just wondering cause I have seen alot of people who have over complicated things or don't explain to their players very well. Sounds like an experience problem you are having. Did you have alot of first year starters or a young team? Also never understimate that some kids just never get it no matter how hard u try.
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Post by brophy on Jan 30, 2007 13:02:46 GMT -6
GRADE THEM and they will understand where they are deficient / what they are doing wrong. Grading isn't a way to criticize them, it's a way for them to understand the path to get better. It also lays out clear expectations on what is supposed to happen on a play. I would encourage grading based on several criteria (alignment / read or key execution / technique used / effort) - that way a play done great but without good technique gives them an idea that they are on the right path and clearly defines where they are deficient.  |
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Post by pantherpride91 on Jan 30, 2007 15:48:36 GMT -6
I was just wondering cause I have seen alot of people who have over complicated things or don't explain to their players very well. Sounds like an experience problem you are having. Did you have alot of first year starters or a young team? Also never understimate that some kids just never get it no matter how hard u try. We did have quite a few upperclassmen who did not want to play for the old staff that came out last year and were starters....That I am sure played a bit into it |
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Post by jhanawa on Jan 30, 2007 16:07:20 GMT -6
How to get them to execute and not make silly mistakes and to use their talent on the field to acheive unbelievable success? Order my "DNA unleashed on the field" book online now for just $29.99 and I'll give you the secret formula...  ....just kidding, I get a laugh from all the cure all books. Really, I think the key to getting these things done is for the kids to believe in the program and to be excited about the program. It sounds like your on the right path if your getting new kids out to participate. IMO, if you can teach things in a way that gets the kids are on the edge of their seats and makes them thirst for knowledge about football, then your good to go, they will pay attention to the details and it will show on the field. Its a process but just keep them excited and build up their confidence. As far as scheme and terminology, I'd give them all written test's and see what they really know. Have them get up in front of the team and diagram a play, see how much they know. I've done this and it perks people up to pay attention, because they don't want to be embarassed up front. When you grade film, do it as a group session and have them grade themselves in addition to your grading, get your grading curves on the same level and then they will know what your looking for. Make sure to POINT out good things that they do with great PRAISE, others will want to be recognized and will strive to acheive. As as been said, its a proccess, the key is to keep heading the right direction and keep them focused. |
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Post by phantom on Jan 30, 2007 16:36:43 GMT -6
Coaches I am in a dilemma here. I was sitting at home last weekend was I decided to break down our film and simply write down all the mistakes we made that had nothing to do with physical talent. In that I mean mental mistakes, lack of hustle, not blocking anyone and just anything in general that had to do with the non physical side of the game. Just watching the offensive side I filled up almost 6 pages, for one game! I was firmly convinced before, not even more such, that we got beat last year in the mental game and in only one game did we actually get physically breat down. What I was wondering was how you coaches would go about approaching this problem? We are physically able to play with every team in our league but the mental mistakes is what kills us. Should i show them the film and point out all the mistakes, or share with them what I came up with on paper? Thanks! You have to sell the kids on this concept. One thing that you may do is make a cut-up tape this offseason. Take that list and put those plays on a cutup. Bring them in for a meeting and show them the tape along with narration. Make sure that they understand that you're not there to criticize and that they're not there to get a laugh at the guys making the mistakes. In fact don't even mention names when you're showing the video. Make the point that mistakes and lack of hustle are what killed you in this game. |
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