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Post by mariner42 on Oct 21, 2012 20:00:54 GMT -6
You'll see that phrases like "Hit somebody" or "Tackle the guy with the ball" are very much bothersome to the rest of us, too. We all share a communal eye-roll at those guys.
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Post by airman on Oct 21, 2012 20:05:38 GMT -6
I am not sure if they qualifies for structured adversity of not. We believe a team goes as the qb goes. One of the things we do is hit our qb on just about every pass play with a bag or two.
for example we have an inside blitz drill where a blitzer comes free. he has a shield dummy in front of him. He is free to hit the qb with it. It creates tempo and adversity for the qb. I see way too many times the qb is lolly gaging around. we hit him from the blind side as well it teaches him step up in the pocket.
for running backs we take standup dummies we smack them with the bottom part of it as they run buy. the dummies usually weight like 20 lbs. i got all this from josh mcdaniel when he was in denver.
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Post by kyle on Oct 21, 2012 20:58:24 GMT -6
I understand your point, but that point can be made about every phrase ever uttered. Any phrase can be twisted and be taken out of context. I'm not taking it out of context. Within the context of football in general or a football forum, the idea of "kids need adversity" is pretty vague. Some people interpret that as trying to get the kids riled up. Others interpret it as lots of yelling. Others interpret it as lots of game specific drills. I just simply said that "kids need adversity" in the context of this thread on self esteem being over rated. My point was that self esteem that comes from just words and pats on the back isn't really productive. Self esteem that comes from overcoming adversity is what you really want. I didn't start a thread on this, it was just a simple comment. And please don't think I'm attacking you in any way. I'm not looking for a debate. I'm just saying; It's a pet peeve of mine. You yourself said that kids need challenges. Do I need to try and pick that apart? Why would you try and pick it apart o.O? |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 21, 2012 21:12:41 GMT -6
I understand your point, but that point can be made about every phrase ever uttered. Any phrase can be twisted and be taken out of context. I'm not taking it out of context. Within the context of football in general or a football forum, the idea of "kids need adversity" is pretty vague. Some people interpret that as trying to get the kids riled up. Others interpret it as lots of yelling. Others interpret it as lots of game specific drills. And please don't think I'm attacking you in any way. I'm not looking for a debate. I'm just saying; It's a pet peeve of mine. You yourself said that kids need challenges. Do I need to try and pick that apart? Why would you try and pick it apart o.O? Got nothing better to do so I will keep going with this. LOL. You are taking it out of context. The context was on this specific thread. It wasn't a general statement, but a specific one that just trying to build self esteem through words is not the best way to do it. Kids need adversity, hardship, difficulties, challenges, whatever to be build real self esteem. I think most guys on this forum would not even remotely take that simple statement as a license to abuse their team. I know you weren't attacking me personally and I get that it is a pet peeve. I understand platitudes and non-specifics. But did what I say really need explanation or specifics? I wouldn't try and pick your statement apart. That is kinda my point. |
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Post by dubber on Oct 21, 2012 22:43:18 GMT -6
Here's the disconnect:
We notice that people who feel good about themselves are more successful (in life, business, family, etc.)
What we (as a society) failed to understand was this has to be EARNED.
When it is unearned, we end up with entitlement attitudes and the laundry list of character ills that as a board we have spent the last 2 months discussing.
I have two types of kids that I treat differently.
Alpha dogs-----kids with positive self images who know they can be successful......they get pushed HARD
The second group is full of kids who DO NOT know if they can be successful............they get encouraged HARD
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 22, 2012 6:48:00 GMT -6
 HOLY %&*^ing CHIT - that is a complete contradiction to any theory, literature, philosophy pertaining to education that has been published in the past 15 years. and against all parenting philosophy since soccer came to the USA. I'm simply at a loss for words to describe your absolute failure to understand today's children. (sarcasm provided free of charge) LOL..I have been waiting for you to chime in for real though.. |
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 22, 2012 9:07:43 GMT -6
That'll be a first..LOL
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Post by fantom on Oct 22, 2012 9:08:27 GMT -6
Colin Cowherd on ESPN Radio just talked with a reporter from Charlotte about Cam Newton. It seems that Newton has regressed badly this year and has played poorly and has a terrible attitude. The reporter said that people who know Cam have said that the problem is that he's never lost before and doesn't know how to handle it. When you're always getting smoke blown up your a$$ it's hard to react when the smoke changes to flames.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 22, 2012 17:51:50 GMT -6
I understand your point, but that point can be made about every phrase ever uttered. Any phrase can be twisted and be taken out of context. I'm not taking it out of context. Within the context of football in general or a football forum, the idea of "kids need adversity" is pretty vague. Some people interpret that as trying to get the kids riled up. Others interpret it as lots of yelling. Others interpret it as lots of game specific drills. And please don't think I'm attacking you in any way. I'm not looking for a debate. I'm just saying; It's a pet peeve of mine. You yourself said that kids need challenges. Do I need to try and pick that apart? Why would you try and pick it apart o.O? Kyle..the difference here is that the phrase "kids needs adversity" is 100% accurate. It is not bull, nor is it a meaningless platitude. Now, saying "kids need adversity" is vague. You are correct, but philosophies are vague. Just because someone states a vague philosophy doesn't mean that they don't have a more detailed action plan to implement that philosophy. |
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Post by mrjvi on Oct 23, 2012 12:34:24 GMT -6
VERY GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm stealing some of it.
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Post by indian1 on Oct 23, 2012 18:09:52 GMT -6
DC that's the best post I've read on here in a long time on any subject.
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