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Post by John Knight on Oct 4, 2012 4:48:51 GMT -6
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Post by mbianco on Oct 4, 2012 6:11:23 GMT -6
That...was...CRAZY!!! Talk about balls!!! It would be a long day in the AD's office explaining the rationale behind that play call if it doesn't work!!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 4, 2012 7:18:09 GMT -6
I would not.
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Post by jlt on Oct 4, 2012 7:33:38 GMT -6
I would. I did last season but we were up by 20 at the time.
But with the game on the line. That takes guts.
We recieved alot of flak about doing it. But my response was/is "If a team cannot stop a boquet pass then maybe they deserve it".
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Post by groundchuck on Oct 4, 2012 8:00:20 GMT -6
I would fake it. I don't see how the holder throwing it that way is beneficial.
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Post by mitch on Oct 4, 2012 8:39:57 GMT -6
He!! no!!!
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Post by silkyice on Oct 4, 2012 9:36:59 GMT -6
I would fake it. I don't see how the holder throwing it that way is beneficial. Agreed. If this is the same play that I saw last week, it was a div 1 commitment who just went up and got the ball. |
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Post by John Knight on Oct 4, 2012 10:26:00 GMT -6
I have never been a fan of running a fake FG to win the game in a situation that is do or die like this.
I say line up and run a play you have repped a few dozen times (or hundreds of times) as one you stuck in during Thursday walk through.
That is just how I roll though.
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Post by fantom on Oct 4, 2012 10:34:01 GMT -6
I have never been a fan of running a fake FG to win the game in a situation that is do or die like this. I say line up and run a play you have repped a few dozen times (or hundreds of times) as one you stuck in during Thursday walk through. That is just how I roll though. Who's to say that they haven't repped this play a few dozen times? |
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Post by John Knight on Oct 4, 2012 10:45:37 GMT -6
I know in our situation, that would not be true. I still feel better running a play that I have repped in a game, not a gadget play that depends on trickery and good officiating.
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Post by fantom on Oct 4, 2012 10:49:16 GMT -6
I know in our situation, that would not be true. I still feel better running a play that I have repped in a game, not a gadget play that depends on trickery and good officiating. I wouldn't run it either but not because it depends on trickery. To me it depends too much on luck. The fact that it looks like they drew it in the dirt, though, doesn't mean that they haven't worked on it. |
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Post by John Knight on Oct 4, 2012 10:52:20 GMT -6
Luck and good officiating. If your receiver gets held or interfered with and it isn't called game over. Don't leave it up to the clowns.
I didn't say that they hadn't worked on it, they have not run it much in a game though, I would bet. Guess I should have said LIVE REPS!
That would matter when it is all on the line, IMHO.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 4, 2012 11:28:32 GMT -6
The other thing is it looks like the other team covered it pretty well. The player just went up and got it.
That is not bad coaching. They probably wouldn't have run that play if the TE was 5'2" 110pounds.
There is just something about a trick play that I have to out athlete you on. A trick play should fool you. If I can just go up and get it, then run a normal play. All that said, that is just my philosophy and it is not set in stone.
Hats off to the coach for the play and call and to the team and player. Great comeback and way to make a play. That part is what makes it great!
Lost a jr. high game twenty years ago on a 4th and goal reverse pass. We were all over it, their better player just made a play. Would have been much easier to swallow if they would have just made a great catch on a fade or a great run. When you cover a trick play and it works - that just stinks. I'm not bitter about that or anything. LOL
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Post by coachroberts99 on Oct 10, 2012 8:20:16 GMT -6
The other thing is it looks like the other team covered it pretty well. The player just went up and got it. That is not bad coaching. They probably wouldn't have run that play if the TE was 5'2" 110pounds. That was my first thought, it's basically a jump ball, and the kid jumped higher and got it.... I don't think I would ever run it, but hey if you do you're an internet sensation and a coach with giant stones, lol! |
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 10, 2012 17:49:24 GMT -6
it worked...he made the right call.
I think the reason for the backwards pass is 1. Throw something like that, like an underhand free throw...it will be pretty accurate. 2. D just doesn't see the ball coming. Who the he!! reps against this? 3. You can throw it pretty far heaving it like that.
So yes, I'd do it
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Post by mitch on Oct 11, 2012 7:48:55 GMT -6
An underhand flip over your head with your back turned to the target is pretty accurate?
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Post by davishfc on Oct 11, 2012 12:24:53 GMT -6
An underhand flip over your head with your back turned to the target is pretty accurate? LOL!!! There's no way I run this in practice and rep it let alone calling it in a critical situation of a game. This took some guts to call...there's no doubt. |
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Post by olcoach53 on Oct 11, 2012 13:31:34 GMT -6
Sometimes it just takes big balls to run a play like that.
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Post by 55663 on Oct 25, 2012 1:50:04 GMT -6
If your receiver gets held or interfered with and it isn't called game over. Don't leave it up to the clowns. Really, John?!?!?! |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 25, 2012 5:07:49 GMT -6
If your receiver gets held or interfered with and it isn't called game over. Don't leave it up to the clowns. Really, John?!?!?! Actually I think this is a very valid point on a play like this. |
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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2012 5:27:54 GMT -6
Yeah,, the word clowns was out of line but I think you have to factor the no call in on this particular play. Sorry about the slur though zebras!!!
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 25, 2012 5:47:14 GMT -6
Definitely agree with the potential of a no call, unless you were able to communicate this to the officials in advance so they could watch for it.
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Post by hback41 on Oct 25, 2012 6:41:30 GMT -6
We played the team who ended up on ESPN earlier this year for winning a game on that play. They run it with a 6-5 D1 dl recruit. They ran it 2 years ago on the way to a state championship. If you have the guys, why not run it?
Oh yeah, the coach has the Most wins in the history of our state.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by Coach JR on Oct 25, 2012 7:26:51 GMT -6
Would I have even come up with that? No. But it worked. A fake FG is a fake FG, no matter how you run it. Risk vs reward. What's the "right way" to run a fake FG when the game is on the line? Answers will vary with personalities and experience.
Would I have run it? No, but that's cuz I wouldn't have dreamed it up in the first place.
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Post by coachfowler on Oct 25, 2012 12:41:14 GMT -6
Friend of mine had it happen to him this year. It was on scoop.com. Gusty call danged if you do danged if you don't
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Post by 33coach on Oct 25, 2012 12:53:05 GMT -6
Would I have even come up with that? No. But it worked. A fake FG is a fake FG, no matter how you run it. Risk vs reward. What's the "right way" to run a fake FG when the game is on the line? Answers will vary with personalities and experience. Would I have run it? No, but that's cuz I wouldn't have dreamed it up in the first place. Your right about that coach. Game on the line..fake field goal is the last thing in my mind...im lineing up my O and saying 'go get it!' Sent from my DROID Pro using proboards |
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Post by cqmiller on Oct 25, 2012 14:12:04 GMT -6
If you wanna go for the win... why not?
Any easier to explain running iso or toss getting stopped?
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Post by airman on Oct 25, 2012 17:36:19 GMT -6
I have seen it done on 2pt conversions during a game but never to win a game. I take risks but not that big of one.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2012 18:10:32 GMT -6
agreed, airman!
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 27, 2012 19:03:54 GMT -6
If you wanna go for the win... why not? Any easier to explain running iso or toss getting stopped? I would say yes on this cq "We gave it to our best player, running one of our best plays that we have practiced over 1000 times since August, and have run over 100 times in live game action this season..... They stopped us on that one" My big concern would be the same that johnknight brought up. It being a XPT situation, I can see a legit chance that the receivers don't get a release, and with it being a blind pass.... |
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