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Post by groundchuck on Oct 21, 2006 12:16:40 GMT -6
With teams gearing up for the playoffs (around the midwest anyway) it brings up this question in my mind:
Give our opponent a ton to look at and prepare for or hold back and spring it on them or a future opponent. For example do you show a "pitch pass" off the option so the coaches drill it into the DBs that we might run it and it is in the back of thier mind=they don't force the run as hard. Or keep it for a time where we might need it.
Actually both schools of thought are good ones and "right". I am just curious as to what members of the board think. Show it and make'm sweat....or keep it close to the vest and spring it on 'em?
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Post by saintrad on Oct 21, 2006 14:20:49 GMT -6
i like to do both, but in a little different way. Example would be the fact we started out as a Gun Spread Option team and showed a very basic passing and running attack. Our goal line O was a Power wing set (aka Markham style). We eventually evolved to a straight double wing look for the last two games with the Spread Option as our change of pace. When we switched to DW we showed only our base Spread Otion stuff until the last ten minutes of warm-ups and then had our "wall of players" move out of the way and let them see the double wing we were running. Should have seen them scrambling.
Next game we show only double wing then at the last ten minutes of warm-ups we moved into a Lonesome Polecat. Once again, scrambling on the other team's part.
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Post by phantom on Oct 21, 2006 15:26:52 GMT -6
I can see merit with both approaches. To me, the question is will it help me win the game at hand. Personally, I'd practice it and include it in the game plan but don't use it unless we need it.
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Post by djwesp on Oct 21, 2006 16:01:57 GMT -6
We show them EVERYTHING on special teams.
It is a good way to make them eat up a lot of time on stuff that doesn't help them prepare very much. We set up the swinging gate on xps, bunch kickoffs, and have a wide range of fakes--- that we give them a a chance to see... so they eat up practice time. I'm sure they try to work on our starburst return too.
On defense we like to show almost everything, however... we'll hold back some blitzes (like our safety cover2 blitz)... we do this incase we are ever in a pickle and need to run something they haven't seen.
On offense, we only run what we need to win the game. PERIOD, The less their scout team has to run the better. Yes, they will be able to defend our meat and potatoes plays well, but no one can run it better than we can, and they won't know a lot of the things we do off it.
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Post by coachjd on Oct 21, 2006 17:02:58 GMT -6
I think the bottom line is to win the game. If you need it use it. Once the playoffs start it's win or go home.
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Post by fbdoc on Oct 22, 2006 19:07:10 GMT -6
Hold it back. Try and create a wrinkle off one of your best base plays (play action, reverse, etc.) that will take advantage of their having seen it on tape exchange or live. Have one formation and run a special play for them to see, and then add the wrinkle to have their preparation and rules work against them.
Having said that, focus and work on what you and your team can control - running your own stuff well!
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Post by coachroberts99 on Oct 23, 2006 3:42:05 GMT -6
Personally I tend to agree with Djwesp. I think the benefit of keeping stuff "hidden" is less than the benefit you can get from running plays in real game situations.
Also as mentioned the other team will spend hours scheming against all your different looks, for which you may or may not run.
I say; run it, rep it, use it!
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Post by coachf on Oct 23, 2006 8:37:30 GMT -6
completely agree coachroberts.
I mean, remember, you are spending time repping a play that you are just using for show. Waste of time if it isn't for a purpose. IMHO
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