jet
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Post by jet on May 22, 2006 8:28:14 GMT -6
One of the things that I've found to be upsetting with coaching is the length to which coaches will go to win. In my state there is a coach who makes a pretty decent salary (obviously not a teacher) he buys appartment buildings and old houses and moves kids in. It's estimated from former players and my brother who works at the school that only 30% of the kids live in the district. He recruits other coaches kids, changes grades and everything else. Do you coaches find this to be prevalent in your state as well, worrying about other coaches trying to steal your players?
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Post by cqmiller on May 22, 2006 8:42:49 GMT -6
We had a coach a few years ago, that was paying for an apartment of one of his players. This player was a very good DE, and his older brother had played at Nebraska. The NCAA found out that his high school coach was paying for his apartment, and he was ineligible by the "extra benefits" rule. I just laugh when coaches do things like that.
Best thing to do would be to just kick his butt, even with his recruited team, and then NOT shake his hand after the game.
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Post by coachdawhip on May 22, 2006 8:47:09 GMT -6
They do stuff like this all the time in GA and very rarely get in trouble. The have people "rent" out homes and apartments to the family, so you can't tie it back to them.
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Post by seagull73 on May 22, 2006 9:40:07 GMT -6
It happens in a few areas where I'm from but not to the extent of buying houses. Kids are encouraged to use fake addresses, enroll in bull spit programs that are only offered at one school, and transfer by other means. These coaches don't have the kids best interest in mind. The kid in often the one who gets punished while the coach claims he knew nothing about it.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on May 22, 2006 10:15:30 GMT -6
We have "option" (open) enrollment here. The biggest "recruiters" are kids and parents at the other schools. I only know of one case where another coach actively tried to recruit a player (which means there are some, but I see the parent/student "sales pitch" as a bigger problem).
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Post by lochness on May 22, 2006 10:16:15 GMT -6
Seems to me like this kind of practice completely defeats what HS football is all about...
How can any kind of success that comes to a coach that does these types of things even MEAN anything??
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Post by cqmiller on May 22, 2006 10:30:49 GMT -6
To a lot of coaches, winning is more important than their ingegrity.
Last year, we played a team that had a kid sign at USC (souther cal). This kid had the coaches bring his pads to the game from the school, and he showed up 10 minutes before the game started in a black car, dropped to the ground, with huge rims on it. Talking to a few of the soph/jv coaches, they were not pleased with the fact that this kid was still ON THE TEAM, let alone still able to play.
(The O.C. didn't show up til game time either, and his kid was the QB, who signed D1 too)
They LOST in the state tournament to a team that does it the right way, so I was pleased to see that. I would rather go 5-5 every year, and have some dignity, than win 10 games every year, and have the kids/parents running my program. That's just me.
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ndcoach
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Post by ndcoach on May 22, 2006 15:24:27 GMT -6
Fortunatly we do not have much of that crap happening here in ND (Recruiting off of other teams, renting out houses, etc.). If a kid transfers schools he has to sit out the next semesters sport. So if he transfers in the spring he can't play football or the first part of basketball next fall. The only away around this is to have the family move, but fortunatly around here there are not a lot offamilies arn't willing to uproot their lives so a kid can play a better school. It does happen occasionally, but not often. When it does it is more than likely the parents and other athletes pushing it, not the coach
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