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Post by rossmacky on Jul 29, 2012 18:56:27 GMT -6
Ok guys I would like to hear what general format you follow for practice. We , like many of you, have a number of athletes who will need to play both sides of the ball. How would you set up your practice in order to get those cross over players practice time on both sides without having a marathon practice? Do you have an offensive cross over day and the next is a defensive cross over day? How much time do those cross overs get at the other position?
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Post by Underdeveloped on Jul 31, 2012 16:30:43 GMT -6
We have 6 starters or more go both ways. Practice runs from 330 to 6 (counting conditioning)
20 min of Indy offense
10 7 on 7 (line works pass pro)
10 min inside run
10 min counter and play action
15 min team offense scripted
10 min special teams
15 min Indy defense
5 to 7 min pass smelly
10 min inside run or blitz fits
15 min of team
10 min conditioning
We have been known to go over on a Tuesday
If we are playing a team who runs tripple option the whole plan gets messed with
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Post by fantom on Jul 31, 2012 20:20:05 GMT -6
All of our guys play both ways, at least theoretically, so we have offensive days and defensive days. Our practice format is as follows:
Defense:
Warmup
Kicking game
Pursuit
Adjustments
Tackling
Individual
Inside drill
7 on 7 (DL work on stunts/pass rush)
Team
Offense:
Warmup
Kicking game
Individual
Inside drill/Half-line
7 on 7 (OL works on pass pro)
Team
Conditioning (Either Gassers or Perfect Play)
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Post by realdawg on Jul 31, 2012 20:41:33 GMT -6
We practice both offense and defense everyday for an hour each
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Post by buckeye7525 on Jul 31, 2012 20:46:42 GMT -6
realdawg, how do you break down the hour for O and D?
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Post by spoonie on Aug 1, 2012 3:17:57 GMT -6
For Offense:
10 mins warmup
40 mins indies, split down into the very specific skills that the players need to succeed at their position (this will be tweaked through the year as they show strength in certain areas and development needs in other areas) - i.e. OL do 20 mins down block-related drills, 10 mins pass pro, 10 mins stretch and pull work
20 mins inside run on air for OL/RBs/QB#1 and 20 mins 1-on-1 for WRs/QB#2 (TEs do alternate sessions with OL and WRs)
Special teams session in the middle
20 mins inside run vs D/ 7-on-7
20 mins full team
10 mins cool down and efforts
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Post by blb on Aug 1, 2012 5:10:24 GMT -6
Like fantom our kids all practice both ways. We two-platoon as much as possible.
Our basic practice outline:
15 minutes SPECIALTIES (emphasize passing and kicking)
15x TEAM COMMENT - WARM UP
20x INDIVIDUAL (Defense M-W, Offense Tu)
15x KICKING GAME
20x GROUP (Same as Individual)
25x TEAM (Same as Individual)
20x TEAM (Switch from above)
5x 4th QUARTER (Conditioning)
I am not big on Half line or Inside drills although we did former when I had an OL coach who favored it and when numbers made it necessary.
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Post by fantom on Aug 1, 2012 5:53:19 GMT -6
I am not big on Half line or Inside drills although we did former when I had an OL coach who favored it and when numbers made it necessary. Why not? |
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Post by coachbuck on Aug 1, 2012 6:05:20 GMT -6
Stretch 10 min, whole team work hand fighting drills (working to have inside position) 10min, tackling circuts/ball stripping, four circuts 20 min, o tech, rbs ball security, blocking drills, qbs footwork, work on leadership, o line edd every day drills 20 min, rbs qbs together to run plays, oline run plays together, two complete groups running plays, 15 min (new play install), team offense, two complete teams running same play at same time, no huddles, reps reps reps, position coaches watching there positions.this will be our o day. We do tackling circut everyday wether o or d day.
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Post by blb on Aug 1, 2012 6:12:06 GMT -6
I am not big on Half line or Inside drills although we did former when I had an OL coach who favored it and when numbers made it necessary. Why not? Big plays are the result of Down field blocking, especially in an option offense like ours. We are big on DF blocking with Off side Tackle. They aren't doing that in Half line. 2/3s of the tackles in a Football game are made by Off side LBer. Not working on blocking him in Half line. Can't practice "Gadget" plays either way or emphasize Chase, Pursuit, etc. defensively. Regardless of how organized we were I felt there were too many kids standing around, not involved in enough activity during the period. The younger the players the more experience they need in playing the game including "situations." One of my "mentors" made great use of Half line both ways, emphasizing doing the job at POA and focusing on-evaluating certain kids. Different strokes... |
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Post by CS on Aug 1, 2012 10:33:43 GMT -6
I agree on half line but respectfully disagree on inside drill. Mostly because it is a good way to practice filling the gaps hard and to see if the ILB's are man enough to hit. Also we have alot of speed and don't have much trouble with outside pursuit but we have limited size and get hurt more between the tackles
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Post by ndestefano on Aug 1, 2012 11:06:25 GMT -6
Inside run session has been a complete waste of time for our offense. The backside DE's just crash every single play and tackle us from behind. Then I tell the QB to pull and we score every time. Then I have to yell at the backup DE's to play disciplined. So on and so forth.
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Post by fantom on Aug 1, 2012 11:34:41 GMT -6
Big plays are the result of Down field blocking, especially in an option offense like ours. We are big on DF blocking with Off side Tackle. They aren't doing that in Half line. 2/3s of the tackles in a Football game are made by Off side LBer. Not working on blocking him in Half line. Can't practice "Gadget" plays either way or emphasize Chase, Pursuit, etc. defensively. Regardless of how organized we were I felt there were too many kids standing around, not involved in enough activity during the period. The younger the players the more experience they need in playing the game including "situations." One of my "mentors" made great use of Half line both ways, emphasizing doing the job at POA and focusing on-evaluating certain kids. Different strokes... Coach, I know that you're a veer team so I understand. We're a Power offense so I think tat makes a difference, |
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Post by 44dlcoach on Aug 1, 2012 23:18:00 GMT -6
A couple years ago we moved to putting our entire team into our inside run period, so I guess its just a "run period" now, rather than an inside run period. Offensively we are a spread team, and we use our receivers a lot as ball carriers, throw bubbles screens based on pre-snap leverage, etc. so they all are able to get good work out of that period. Defensively, it is nice to get the corners involved in secondary force and making sure that they don't give up the sideline if a ball bounces, or take the proper pursuit angle on the back side of a run play.
One thing that is worth considering in our position is that most of our WRs and DBs practice only one side of the ball, so they still end up with plenty of individual time during the week, so putting them into the inside run period doesn't hurt. If their individual time was more limited, maybe that time would be better spent working with their position coaches.
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Post by fantom on Aug 2, 2012 7:58:52 GMT -6
Big plays are the result of Down field blocking, especially in an option offense like ours. We are big on DF blocking with Off side Tackle. They aren't doing that in Half line. 2/3s of the tackles in a Football game are made by Off side LBer. Not working on blocking him in Half line. Can't practice "Gadget" plays either way or emphasize Chase, Pursuit, etc. defensively. Regardless of how organized we were I felt there were too many kids standing around, not involved in enough activity during the period. The younger the players the more experience they need in playing the game including "situations." One of my "mentors" made great use of Half line both ways, emphasizing doing the job at POA and focusing on-evaluating certain kids. Different strokes... I should also point out that our half-line period is strictly for the outside run. We do include a backside guard and DL. You'll notice that we don't do it on defense. I was a defensive player and know how easy life is when the offense can only go one way. |
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Post by ccscoach on Aug 4, 2012 16:05:33 GMT -6
All of our guys play both ways, at least theoretically, so we have offensive days and defensive days. Our practice format is as follows: Defense: Warmup Kicking game Pursuit Adjustments Tackling Individual Inside drill 7 on 7 (DL work on stunts/pass rush) Team Offense: Warmup Kicking game Individual Inside drill/Half-line 7 on 7 (OL works on pass pro) Team Conditioning (Either Gassers or Perfect Play) fantom how long are your periods? |
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Post by buckeye7525 on Aug 4, 2012 16:11:46 GMT -6
Fantom, how do you guys run your Perfect Play as a conditioner?
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Post by fantom on Aug 4, 2012 20:34:27 GMT -6
All of our guys play both ways, at least theoretically, so we have offensive days and defensive days. Our practice format is as follows: Defense: Warmup 10 minures Kicking game 20 minutes Pursuit 10 min. Adjustments 10 min. Tackling 10 Min. Individual 30 min. Inside drill 20 min. 7 on 7 (DL work on stunts/pass rush) 20 min. Team 20 min at most. Offense: Warmup 10 min. Kicking game 20 min. Individual 30 min. Inside drill/Half-line20 min. 7 on 7 (OL works on pass pro) 20 minj. Team 20 min or whatweveer. Conditioning (Either Gassers or Perfect Play) fantom how long are your periods? |
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Post by fantom on Aug 4, 2012 20:37:03 GMT -6
Fantom, how do you guys run your Perfect Play as a conditioner? Ten plays. Everybody has to run 10 yards. Everything has to be perfect. Not pretty good, perfect. Stance, effort, everything. If it isn't we run it again. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Aug 4, 2012 21:10:00 GMT -6
Not as a specific criticism to blb, but where do we get all these figures people throw out as gospel? 2/3 of tackles by the BSLB? 90% of big runs are off cutbacks? Where do these come from?
Also, if the core of your team is two-way players, why not just go whole hog and one-platoon?
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Post by bblue on Aug 9, 2012 1:05:31 GMT -6
Guys, I'm new to this forum, but if I could just add a question - what are the pros and cons to doing stretches/ warmups with/ without pads?
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Post by Chris Clement on Aug 9, 2012 5:49:38 GMT -6
That would probably be more appropriately asked in its own thread. It doesn't really piggyback here. Good question, though.
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