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Post by coachcalande on Jun 26, 2006 6:18:05 GMT -6
being surrounded by great players or having a great coaching staff? why?
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Post by chiefscoach on Jun 26, 2006 6:41:46 GMT -6
Honestly and this is just If I was still a player I would rather be surrounded by great players. I played on a pretty good football team and it was great watching some of our D1 prospects play through out the season. It really made it fun.
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Post by cqmiller on Jun 26, 2006 7:20:49 GMT -6
If I had to choose one...I would say great coaches. These coaches would maximize the "average" player's potential, as well as put our "above-average" players in successful situations. If you have great players, but they are never put in good situations by the coaching staff...then you end up with the best 2-8 team in the state.
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Post by brophy on Jun 26, 2006 7:38:30 GMT -6
ditto to cq's thoughts - a good coaching staff could make practice enjoyable / not terrible, so that we coudl use the talent we had, but also encourage the solidarity aspects of being on a team (and trsuting yoru teammates), while winning is nice, being marginalized by the "superstars" of the team would suck.
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Post by blb on Jun 26, 2006 8:18:08 GMT -6
I'm too old to remember from a player's perspective, but Bear Bryant once said "More than any other, football is a coach's game."
Chris Geesman, who won multiple state titles at Mishawaka (IN) Penn HS was quoted as saying "One good coach is worth six good players."
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Post by coachcb on Jun 26, 2006 9:23:54 GMT -6
I'd have to go with cq also- I have played for great coaches and terrible ones. The great ones made the game far more enjoyable for the team. Bad or inexperienced coaches can take a team with good talent and turn a season into a disaster.
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Post by chiefscoach on Jun 26, 2006 9:36:12 GMT -6
I think you guys are thinking too much like Coaches. I agree from my stand point now that having great coaches is more important but as a player and thinking as a player would I think most of you would want great teammates.
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Post by lochness on Jun 26, 2006 9:41:26 GMT -6
I think great coaches create situations where they build great teammates.
So, I would say "great coaches"...because the great coach fosters the brotherhood environment, and you ultimately get both.
Conversely, playing for "not-so-great" coaches will sometimes divide a team or at least cause morale issues.
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Post by brophy on Jun 26, 2006 10:17:49 GMT -6
what would you rather have? Very competent coworkers, or a great boss? Same principle
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Post by groundchuck on Jun 26, 2006 11:08:43 GMT -6
I would rather play for great coaches. BTW I think I had some pretty darn good ones as a player too!
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Post by chiefscoach on Jun 26, 2006 11:46:39 GMT -6
Put this on a HS Football player board and I'd be willing to bet the responses would be different. Don't get me wrong I agree with you guys but I think we are extremely biased towards coaches for obvious reasons.
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Post by mudslinger on Jun 26, 2006 13:49:32 GMT -6
From a OLD players standpoint..........We had a GREAT coach that made for a GOOd team with a bunch of AVERAGE players......
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Post by airman on Jun 26, 2006 14:09:44 GMT -6
i think it really depends on the era. kids today are all about the individual, so great individuals would be what I would think they would want to be around.
most h.s. kids do not like their coaches. oh, 10 years later in life, they loved good old coach. however, when they were 16-18 coach made them do things which they really did not want to do.
coach made them run hard, do things the correct way.
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Post by brophy on Jun 26, 2006 14:13:48 GMT -6
a lot of kids these days are telling the coach HOW and WHAT to run on offense, thanks to Madden & ESPN (lol)
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Post by airman on Jun 26, 2006 14:29:03 GMT -6
I love the whole espn thing. i mean they watch espn breakdwon some plays which 21 to 30 something year old men run and bill bob thinks his h.s. team should be able to run it.
every time I get a butt head which tells me I should use some nfl stuff, I show him the nfl meeting, film, and practice schedule I got from Coach Dungy. I ask him if he is ready to committ his son to that much meeting time, film study and then practice, not to mention weights.
we could run any thing we wanted if we had 8 hrs of time to teach, what film and the like.
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Post by tvt50 on Jun 27, 2006 6:41:44 GMT -6
"The best players dont always make the best team, but the BEST team always wins". I dont really CARE how many great players they have, all that matter is- Are they a better TEAM than us.
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 27, 2006 10:50:24 GMT -6
When I played we won two state titles and had a bit of both to varying degrees, so I'm pretty fortunate. Great players? Depends what you mean by great. We had some D-1 guys, including one who went head-case his first year and just dropped out of Boston College and another who got kicked off a top 15 team for drugs. Great talents on friday nights. We had some guys who went on to D-II, D-III, and no football at all who were great starters for us and, more importantly, great leaders. When I was a sophomore those guys had my respect from day one.
I may have to vote coaches though. Most high school ball players won't play at the next level, and, at least with hindsight being 20/20 I'd prefer whoever could help me be a man and learn the lessons to be successful at whatever I do, which football teaches more than any other sport and a great coach can impart on every player, whether he runs a 4.4 or a 6.4.
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Post by mce86 on Jun 28, 2006 8:11:19 GMT -6
Terrible coaches can bring down good players, where great coaches will bruing up average players! I'd much rather play for a good program.
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