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Post by tigercoach11 on Jul 20, 2012 20:41:07 GMT -6
I think I read somewhere that Markham or maybe Vallotton (double wing reference: we run the DW) used to rack up wins and basically coached alone or with one other guy. Heres my situation: basically admin sucks and refuses to hire teachers when there are openings that coach too, so I am stuck finding "contract coaches". well this year as of right now I can only find one for varsity and one to do the jr high. they practice at the same time so I can not be in two places at once and obviously as the HC for the varsity thats my priority. Bringing kids in at different times is not an option. Just trying to see if there is any suggestions on how to make this work, not just offensively but ideas on defense too (we run the bear).....Ideas from any coach is appreciated but would really love to hear from HS guys that have delt with this prob as well.....Thank you for any comments
ps...small school with about 23-25 kids out for varsity so manageable but still tough to coach each position correctly without neglecting another
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 20, 2012 20:48:02 GMT -6
Basically everyone learns to play every position, you work your major skills all at once, so everyone learns practices down blocking, pulls, kickouts, etc. When there's two coaches you can split into backs and line or however you like to work it.
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Post by thehoodie on Jul 20, 2012 22:50:44 GMT -6
I think you could get away with it pretty easily (to be honest, sometimes I wish it was like that where I am at). I would practice JV and Varsity together with offensive and defensive days separate. As cclement said, if you have at least 1 other coach, then divide up into linemen (DL/OL) and skill guys (DB/LB/WR/RB/QB). You coach 1, he coaches the other, you can even swap on occasion if you feel comfortable doing so.
Keep the offensive playbook simple (DW guys usually run 5-6 plays), same on defense, keep it to a few different coverages with a few blitzes.
The big issue comes on gameday and finding people to have all the auxiliary stuff taken care of. Trainer, film, stats, equipment, etc... The good news there is that you can find people who have no football background whatsoever to help do that stuff.
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Post by cc on Jul 20, 2012 23:35:17 GMT -6
What about getting volunteer coaches out to help out with positional skills?
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Post by tigercoach11 on Jul 21, 2012 8:14:36 GMT -6
What about getting volunteer coaches out to help out with positional skills? That is a possibility. However, with everything else on my plate and wearin so many diff hats this year OC,DC etc...is it really worth bringing in "volunteers" who prob need to be coached just as much as the kids? I can find people with pulses to fill spots but they are not football caches and I am just not sure that have enough time nor will they dedicate enough time to learning the system and drills I need done in practice and how to coach the kids correctly. |
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Post by gschwender on Jul 21, 2012 10:44:53 GMT -6
How bout using all 3 coaches as one staff and practicing 7-12 together? Obviously the middle schoolers won't go against high school kids but they can be in the same position groups. Might b a bit of a juggling act when games come around though
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 21, 2012 11:19:03 GMT -6
A clueless volunteer can be a great help for a coach. They can be drill managers/drill runners and free you up to coach. Fr example, if you're working 1-on-1 man coverage he can do the throwing so you can go teach each kid after his rep. Or he can call the cadence on a bird-dog drill and you can work with the kids who are struggling.
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Post by fantom on Jul 21, 2012 11:24:56 GMT -6
You know the difference between a clueless paid coach and a clueless volunteer? The volunteer is easier to fire.
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Post by tigercoach11 on Jul 21, 2012 11:30:11 GMT -6
Actually we have been tosing this idea around...games aren't an issue bc jr high plays thursdays (walk through for varsity)...in our classification 8th grade can play up and 9th can play down...so basically if they are 9th and have to play down they will prob not see much playing time friday night so they dont need to be there except i guess it makes defensive walk through tough without the numbers to line up on....i have brought up 8th graders just for practice reasons (hold dummies etc..) but they rarely get any time on friday....I am racking my brain trying to come up with a plan that is set in stone and very organized so every day they know what they are doing and we have the ability to do it with 2-3 coaches
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Post by gschwender on Jul 21, 2012 11:42:15 GMT -6
Instead of worrying who comes up/down go all together. Do thurs walk-through, and those who are not playing Friday stay for practice. Just make sure 7th graders aren't going against 10th
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Post by pmeisel on Jul 22, 2012 5:50:01 GMT -6
I have seen a couple coaches that had a lot of success using volunteer to run drills. Doesn't take much time to teach then how to run the drill, they watch you once, you watch them once, they are on their way.
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Post by coachbuck on Jul 22, 2012 6:12:01 GMT -6
Another option is outgoing seniors that are attending JC college locally. Have them come back and help the program. We have three players this year as position coaches. We where having the same problem. Couldnt get enough coaches for the jv team. I dont know how this will play out but they know the system you want taught and really its all they know.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jul 22, 2012 6:51:52 GMT -6
Have you consulted any and all possible current teachers in the building/district about coaching?
I doubt Nick Saban is teaching Algebra II at your school, but there might be someone with a little experience that could help out. Maybe an older former coach that got out of it because he didn't want to put in much time anymore? Make a deal with him that he has no weekend responsibilities, etc and is just there to help at practices and games.
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Post by blb on Jul 22, 2012 7:20:44 GMT -6
If you have a college-university nearby see if they have a "Coaching Football" class.
If so, ask instructor for names-contact info of 2-3 best students.
Might be able to get them for a couple years and in building for student teaching, too.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Jul 22, 2012 17:51:48 GMT -6
Markham would run 3 hour practices, and about 2 1/2 hours were dedicated to offense. They would run a small limited playbook that would consist of 6-10 plays, and just get really good at running them. They would just run a ton of team, and hardly any indy. His defense has varied from a 6-2 to a 4-4, and all man coverage. He had assistants, but they were not very involved, and it wasn't because they didn't want to be. The one thing you can't argue is the fact he has won plenty of games.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 22, 2012 18:43:12 GMT -6
DW does require a lot of team, which is probably easier on a lone coach. You need the team time to work the timing and traffic, which can get pretty snarled if you don't have it down exactly.
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