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Post by coachtut on Jul 5, 2012 13:18:37 GMT -6
Congrats, You are now the head of a youth football association. You are in charge of 10 teams and the program needs to improve its winning percentage. You are making sure you have the best coaches possible and decide that your whole league should standardize your warm ups, and first 2-3 drills of practice. Question is, if you had to pick 1,2, or 3 drills for ALL of the teams to complete each practice to raise football skill level, what would those drills be? 1. Form Tackle 2. Angle Drill 3.  ?? 4. Please keep in mind that it is your first year and you would probably have a MAJOR problem coming in and making everyone run one system, etc. We are just trying to start small here. Just play along  |
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jul 5, 2012 13:33:29 GMT -6
Nice topic you got 2 soild tackiling drills so I'm assuming you want to keep it centered on defence.
I'm thinking and I'd switch up the order.
1) some kind of bag circuit ( one in the hole, 2, sideways, up and back whatever)
2) wave drills (the old coach point left right down for a up down can do them out of a bear crawl postion add seat rolls what ever)
3) form tackel
4) angel tackel
Have been on 3 staffs and went to 3 college and they all started there d sessions basicly the same way. The idea is to have a up tempo blood pumping high energy skill specific warm up to get the kids excited let them know its defence time. Slow it down a bit stress tech tackiling then start gearing it back up and try to peak at team d time.
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Post by coachtut on Jul 5, 2012 13:39:22 GMT -6
Nice topic you got 2 soild tackiling drills so I'm assuming you want to keep it centered on defence. I'm thinking and I'd switch up the order. 1) some kind of bag circuit ( one in the hole, 2, sideways, up and back whatever) 2) wave drills (the old coach point left right down for a up down can do them out of a bear crawl postion add seat rolls what ever) 3) form tackel 4) angel tackel Have been on 3 staffs and went to 3 college and they all started there d sessions basicly the same way. The idea is to have a up tempo blood pumping high energy skill specific warm up to get the kids excited let them know its defence time. Slow it down a bit stress tech tackiling then start gearing it back up and try to peak at team d time. Thanks for your ideas. You brought me to another idea, maybe have different drills for defensive/offensive days. Thanks coach. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 5, 2012 13:49:51 GMT -6
I don't really like bag and ladder stuff at that level. The practice time is so limited and the season is so short I hate to have a drill that only works one single thing.
I'd be looking for drills that can be expanded to add complication and realism as the kids improve. I love fom and angle tackle, especially angle tackle, because I feel you can work angles of pursuit at the same time.
Make the form tackle drill as similar as possible to the form blocking drill. For us it's just a matter of repositioning the arms.
For warm-up we used a box contain drill, you might want to work special teams or angles of pursuit, since that's a really weak point in youth ball.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jul 5, 2012 14:05:52 GMT -6
I see that bag and ladder stuff as warm up and it has lots of carry over to team defence. Not every player is going to contain or zone drop but they all have to run and move. If your droping the old static warm up stuff I don't see it as a time constant thing. If it is and I had to drop it is go with what ever your team pursuit drill is.
Probly my favriot d drill of all time is odd man out ( got it from a Harvard cut)
1) put 4 players facing the endzone on the goaline facing a coach in the bear crawl postion.
2) have 3 players holding shields between the hash and the sideline on the left 3 more on right and 3 on the 15
3) coach shuffels them left and right gives a whistel and points to one of the groups.
4) the 4 players have to sprint and and grab the 3 shields but there is only 3 so someone is going to loss.
5) there is no rules do what you have to do to get a bag
Teaches being competing pursuit and conditioning
Mabey not a youth friendly still but can't talk pursuit without throwing that out there.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Jul 5, 2012 14:08:57 GMT -6
I see that bag and ladder stuff as warm up and it has lots of carry over to team defence. Not every player is going to contain or zone drop but they all have to run and move. If your droping the old static warm up stuff I don't see it as a time constant thing. If it is and I had to drop it is go with what ever your team pursuit drill is. Probly my favriot d drill of all time is odd man out ( got it from a Harvard cut) 1) put 4 players facing the endzone on the goaline facing a coach in the bear crawl postion. 2) have 3 players holding shields between the hash and the sideline on the left 3 more on right and 3 on the 15 3) coach shuffels them left and right gives a whistel and points to one of the groups. 4) the 4 players have to sprint and and grab the 3 shields but there is only 3 so someone is going to loss. 5) there is no rules do what you have to do to get a bag Teaches being competing pursuit and conditioning Point is I don't want 2 things going into tackeling or team 1) being cold 2) being flat Mabey not a youth friendly still but can't talk pursuit without throwing that out there. |
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Post by bobgoodman on Jul 5, 2012 14:10:40 GMT -6
You are now the head of a youth football association. You are in charge of 10 teams and the program needs to improve its winning percentage. You are making sure you have the best coaches possible and decide that your whole league should standardize your warm ups, and first 2-3 drills of practice. Can we take it you meant "association"? |
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Post by coachbuck on Jul 6, 2012 1:19:02 GMT -6
As the league pres you are to intrusive by telling teams how to warm up and what drills they must run. Pick the best coaches you can and then have a coaching clinic with them. Explain why dynamic warm ups is best and then show them what dynamic warm ups look like. Not all coaches know this. Show them a tackling drill circut. Show them the proper 3 point stance. If possible get the H.S. coach to put on a clinic for your coaches. My opinion I would not want the league to tell me how to warm up and what drills I need to do. Every team is different and as the season goes on coaches will focus on what their team needs. The last thing I would tell these coaches is, you are not being judged by your wins or losses. Your being judged by your teams knowledge of the fundementals. We cannot all win every year but we can all know how to tackle and block the correct way. If you want to coach for this league next year your team better know their fundementals. JMO alot of youth coaches (not on this site) go madden and have no clue.
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Post by jrwarriorcoach on Jul 6, 2012 8:20:00 GMT -6
I would throw in a stance and fire drill. You cannot drill proper 3 pt stance and firing out low too much. (here is what I started doing last year at 3rd / 4th grade)
I like to have two coaches per line, both with a shield in hand. On "go" the player will fire out at the shield (at least 1 yard away) while the 2nd coach holds the shield parallel to the ground at a "low level" where the player will not hit his head if he stays low. (simulates a chute for the little guys that are too small for a chute to be effective.)
I also agree with Coachbuck, your success should not be valued on W's vs. L's if it is an instructional youth level. W's do not dictate success. My successes are having the boys that are light years behind in ability and natural talent catch up and be able to hang due to proper technique.
Winning is a product of proper technique, good fundamentals, hard work and an increasing understanding of the game.
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Post by coachdoug on Jul 6, 2012 12:04:38 GMT -6
I tend to agree with coachbuck - I have been an association president in the past, and I think it's a little over the top for the board to dictate to the coaches how to do their jobs. Now, if you're Dave Cisar and you have the time and resources to fully train all the staffs (videos, books, clinics, one-on-one training, etc.), then perhaps you can pull it off, but for the vast majority of programs out there, the only thing you're going to accomplish by dictating the details of how to practice, is to drive away good coaches.
As coachbuck suggested, a good clinic for all your coaches where you demonstrate the preferred way to do certain things (like dynamic warmup), is probably the way to go. When you do that, you can let the coaches know that they can do things however they want, but they will be held accountable for results - if the team is not performing well and learning good fundamentals, the board has the right to reassign a coach from another staff and at that point dictate that certain parts of practice be done a certain way. We always did that and no coach ever objected to it in advance and we only had to actually move coaches to help out struggling staffs a couple of times.
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Post by coachtut on Jul 7, 2012 8:58:11 GMT -6
I tend to agree with coachbuck - I have been an association president in the past, and I think it's a little over the top for the board to dictate to the coaches how to do their jobs. Now, if you're Dave Cisar and you have the time and resources to fully train all the staffs (videos, books, clinics, one-on-one training, etc.), then perhaps you can pull it off, but for the vast majority of programs out there, the only thing you're going to accomplish by dictating the details of how to practice, is to drive away good coaches. As coachbuck suggested, a good clinic for all your coaches where you demonstrate the preferred way to do certain things (like dynamic warmup), is probably the way to go. When you do that, you can let the coaches know that they can do things however they want, but they will be held accountable for results - if the team is not performing well and learning good fundamentals, the board has the right to reassign a coach from another staff and at that point dictate that certain parts of practice be done a certain way. We always did that and no coach ever objected to it in advance and we only had to actually move coaches to help out struggling staffs a couple of times. I completely understand where you are coming from. My paticular association has had a winning percentage around .200, last year I was asked to standardize our form tackling and some basic drills to start practice, I went with blocking and tackling progression, then angle tackling. Our association winning percentage last year was around .600. I am the head of coaching for our organization and I will sit down with each coaching staff and cover their schemes, practice plans, etc. If a coach comes in and shows that he "knows what he is doing" I would gladly send him on his way with his plan. Problem is we simply haven't had any of those coaches come through our doors the last several years. Gotta build up the guys we have. We have some great communicators on board that are eager to learn and after this season we will absolutely have ALL of our coaches "on board" if you know what I mean. The three teams that closely followed the blueprint that I layed out had much more success than the ones that decided to put in the "Oregon Spread Offense"  Thank you coaches for your input! |
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Post by mahonz on Jul 7, 2012 13:10:11 GMT -6
I tend to agree with coachbuck - I have been an association president in the past, and I think it's a little over the top for the board to dictate to the coaches how to do their jobs. Now, if you're Dave Cisar and you have the time and resources to fully train all the staffs (videos, books, clinics, one-on-one training, etc.), then perhaps you can pull it off, but for the vast majority of programs out there, the only thing you're going to accomplish by dictating the details of how to practice, is to drive away good coaches. As coachbuck suggested, a good clinic for all your coaches where you demonstrate the preferred way to do certain things (like dynamic warmup), is probably the way to go. When you do that, you can let the coaches know that they can do things however they want, but they will be held accountable for results - if the team is not performing well and learning good fundamentals, the board has the right to reassign a coach from another staff and at that point dictate that certain parts of practice be done a certain way. We always did that and no coach ever objected to it in advance and we only had to actually move coaches to help out struggling staffs a couple of times. I completely understand where you are coming from. My paticular association has had a winning percentage around .200, last year I was asked to standardize our form tackling and some basic drills to start practice, I went with blocking and tackling progression, then angle tackling. Our association winning percentage last year was around .600. I am the head of coaching for our organization and I will sit down with each coaching staff and cover their schemes, practice plans, etc. If a coach comes in and shows that he "knows what he is doing" I would gladly send him on his way with his plan. Problem is we simply haven't had any of those coaches come through our doors the last several years. Gotta build up the guys we have. We have some great communicators on board that are eager to learn and after this season we will absolutely have ALL of our coaches "on board" if you know what I mean. The three teams that closely followed the blueprint that I layed out had much more success than the ones that decided to put in the "Oregon Spread Offense" Thank you coaches for your input! T That’s a big jump. Standardizing the systems the next step? Seems logical with 10 teams. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 7, 2012 13:14:16 GMT -6
I really don't like leagues that standardize systems especially if you play a house league schedule. But at the moment it seems like your coaches are more well intentioned than competent. Maybe if you're comfortable you could give them their choice of two or three offenses? At least it gives the kids some variety and the coaches a semblance of authority.
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Post by coachtut on Jul 7, 2012 14:36:53 GMT -6
I really don't like leagues that standardize systems especially if you play a house league schedule. But at the moment it seems like your coaches are more well intentioned than competent. Maybe if you're comfortable you could give them their choice of two or three offenses? At least it gives the kids some variety and the coaches a semblance of authority. A ha! That is exactly what I am doing. They are very well intentioned and I want them to be able to select their offense. My only guideline is that the offense be "system based". Wing-T, Double Wing, Single Wing, Pro, etc. I don't care what they run, as long as they can show me that they can coach it. I am a single wing guy, so if they don't know, that's what they get |
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Post by shotgun1 on Jul 27, 2012 19:14:42 GMT -6
Blocking and tackling wins football games. So you need two tackling drills and two blocking drills.
Tackling
1. Head up form tackling that is high repition and not to the ground.
2. Angle tackling or gator roll tackling.
Blocking
1. Head up with high reps and up tempo with your teaching cues. We start out bird dogging it using STANCE/LOAD/FIRE/ROLL
2. Reach block to same cadence
In our organization we make the two teams in each grade practice together for the first 30-45 minutes of practice. In that time they do team tackling and team blocking. After that they move in to INDY were the kids work on position related skills for offense or defense. Lots of coaches in the indy stations to help with technique and lots of coaching going all. Lots of reps with little downtime. When we go to GROUP the teams split up some as we run different offense/defense. After GROUP we go TEAM and typically stay seperate unless we come together to scrimmage. We aim to have 22-23 per team so we can platoon our team and scrimmage within our teams.
Look at USA Footballs new tackling series on YOUTUBE. Good stuff and the way tackling should be taught.
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Post by champ93 on Aug 4, 2012 8:50:36 GMT -6
whatever drills you decide, make sure they are actually applicable to football and the system you play. If you're a double-wing team, any drills that incorporates a bear crawl makes sense. If you're the "Oregon Spread Offense" then not so much.
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