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Post by blb on Jun 11, 2012 16:46:26 GMT -6
Lombardi would have been 99 today.
Any thoughts on what his greatest contribution to the Football Coaching profession was?
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Post by John Knight on Jun 11, 2012 17:53:14 GMT -6
Lombardi sweep!
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Post by tekart on Jun 11, 2012 18:25:40 GMT -6
He wanted to get a seal here and a seal here and run it in the alley.
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Post by John Knight on Jun 11, 2012 19:36:36 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Jun 12, 2012 8:08:07 GMT -6
Lombardi was one of the first to truly integrate the team, rooming players by position regardless of race.
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 18, 2012 16:41:34 GMT -6
Great, mighty Minnesota fell upon a fateful day.
Both Yale and Army felt the axe and tossed their crowns away.
Big Holy Cross, an early boss, hears no more winning bands.
Yes, strange things happened everywhere, but the Fordham Wall Still Stands.
Once Carthage ruled an ancient coast, but where is Carthage now?
The Grecian phalanx no more wears the winning olive bough.
And where is Persia's ruling host that ruled all warring lands?
Their day is done, by sand and sun, but the Fordham Wall Still Stands.
Who took the brutal thrust of SMU and rolled its charges back?
Who stood the Gaels upon their heels and broke up each attack?
Who held young Goldberg at the line with willing hearts and hands?
The answer rings from coast to coast: the Fordham Wall Still Stands!
Grantland Rice, November 1, 1936
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 12:32:05 GMT -6
I'm reading the book, "When Pride Still Mattered" by David Maraniss. It is a pretty interesting book not only about Lombardi, but the evolution of football. It is interesting to read about the idea of college football as a moneymaker and taking away from academics as a thought in the 1930s and how that argument is still around today.
I'm a young coach and I like understanding the evolution of football.I'm about half way through and I would recommend it to everyone, it's pretty good understanding his life inside and outside of football.
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Post by airman on Jun 20, 2012 18:22:51 GMT -6
1. From the video, someone tell paul horning to carry the ball in the correct hand.
2. While Vince was a very successful coach he is also a prime example of what not to do. His home life was far from the best. His wife never left him because women did not do that in those days. He was very distant/aloof from his son Vince Jr. There was a lot of yelling in the Lombardi household. Vince was verbally abusive toward his wife. She openly admitted marrying him was the biggest mistake of her life. She learned to toughen up and would fight back verbally.
3. Vince refused to go to the doctor. had he went to the doctor he would have lived more years. He also was a big time smoker.
So while Vince was a very successful coach he was very unsuccessful in the game of life.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 18:42:18 GMT -6
2. While Vince was a very successful coach he is also a prime example of what not to do. His home life was far from the best. His wife never left him because women did not do that in those days. He was very distant/aloof from his son Vince Jr. There was a lot of yelling in the Lombardi household. Vince was verbally abusive toward his wife. She openly admitted marrying him was the biggest mistake of her life. She learned to toughen up and would fight back verbally. Yeah I Agree, the book does a pretty good job showing that. Honestly football was his life and he really didn't do a good job as a father or husband. Good point airman. |
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Post by larrymoe on Jun 22, 2012 4:40:36 GMT -6
2. While Vince was a very successful coach he is also a prime example of what not to do. His home life was far from the best. His wife never left him because women did not do that in those days. He was very distant/aloof from his son Vince Jr. There was a lot of yelling in the Lombardi household. Vince was verbally abusive toward his wife. She openly admitted marrying him was the biggest mistake of her life. She learned to toughen up and would fight back verbally. 3. Vince refused to go to the doctor. had he went to the doctor he would have lived more years. He also was a big time smoker. So while Vince was a very successful coach he was very unsuccessful in the game of life. So are about 80% of all HCs at D1 and the NFL. You're point? |
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Post by blb on Jun 22, 2012 5:07:13 GMT -6
2. While Vince was a very successful coach he is also a prime example of what not to do. His home life was far from the best. His wife never left him because women did not do that in those days. He was very distant/aloof from his son Vince Jr. There was a lot of yelling in the Lombardi household. Vince was verbally abusive toward his wife. She openly admitted marrying him was the biggest mistake of her life. She learned to toughen up and would fight back verbally. 3. Vince refused to go to the doctor. had he went to the doctor he would have lived more years. He also was a big time smoker. So while Vince was a very successful coach he was very unsuccessful in the game of life. So are about 80% of all HCs at D1 and the NFL. You're point? Fifty years ago male role and the husband-wife dynamic was very different than today. For their time the Lombardi's relationship was not all that unusual even considering nature of his profession. Unless you were alive in '60s and even later you have no idea how prevalent smoking was. And many men still see going to the doctor before something is obviously wrong as a sign of weakness. Ever watch "Mad Men"? Lombardi was not without his flaws as are we all. Bart Starr, when asked about Lombardi's going to mass each morning, remarked that you didn't have to be around him long before you realized he was a man who HAD to go to church daily. But his human frailties don't diminish what he accomplished or stood for. |
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Post by emptybackfield on Jun 22, 2012 6:55:33 GMT -6
So while Vince was a very successful coach he was very unsuccessful in the game of life. By whose standard is he unsuccessful in the game of life? You obviously judge a man's success on his worth as a husband and father. I can't say I disagree with you, but not everyone shares your same grading scale. I would hardly consider him to be what you speak of, when he impacted as many people as he did. He impacted hundreds of thousands of people and an entire sport in a positive way. I hardly consider that to be an unsuccessful life. |
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