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Post by mikewdw on Mar 21, 2006 10:23:41 GMT -6
new to the board here but really enjoy reading the post from you guys. you guys that have been part of a successful program talk to me about what it is that helped make yours successful. i am going on 6th year at a school that had only one winning season and one 5-5 yr in 10 years previous. we have become competitive (4-6,4-6,5-5,6-4,4-6) but have not been able to top the hill and make the playoffs. looking for any ideas whether x's & o's, team building, practice organinzation, weight program etc. to put us over the top. play in very competitive region, (4of 8 teams have played for a state title in last 6 years). small school, only 200 kids in 10-12th grade. a lot of 2 way players. young assistants (who don't always agree with how things are run). only 3 varsity coaches this year (including me) 2 jr. high. really looking for things your hs coach did or your program now does that gives kids a mental boost. any tips greatly appreciated.
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Post by phantom on Mar 21, 2006 15:14:31 GMT -6
Without question the first thing that you need to do is get those assistants on the same page with you.
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Post by cqmiller on Mar 21, 2006 15:35:39 GMT -6
I agree with phantom. If ALL the coaches buy into the system/setup/goals, then it is 100% easier to get the kids to buy into it.
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Post by coachdawhip on Mar 21, 2006 16:01:48 GMT -6
2nd thing is don't worry about x's and o's, Make sure the weight room is together next.
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Post by coachjd on Mar 21, 2006 18:56:37 GMT -6
cannot agree more with what has been said. But I will add they need to done with an attitude. A great positive attitude can be contagious and can breed success.
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Post by groundchuck on Mar 22, 2006 5:42:58 GMT -6
I know a few things about bad programs...LOL.
#1 Quality assistant coaches. Even if they do not know all the Xs and Os.
#2 Wt room
#3 Wt Room
#4 Wt Room
Basically I agree with what everyone has said so far.
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Post by tog on Mar 22, 2006 7:10:56 GMT -6
agree with the other guys about the asstistants
its cool to have varying ideas when you start to discuss things, but once the HC makes the final call about what is going to be done, they better believe in it
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Post by wpialoline on Mar 22, 2006 7:39:29 GMT -6
We just did a very quick and dramatic turn around of a program and I would agree with everyone here.
1st get coaches on the same page
2nd weightroom/plyos/speed training.
X's and O's are great but you better develop kids to perform
"Its not about the X's and O's its about the Jimmy's and the Joe's"
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Post by coachbw on Mar 22, 2006 7:51:39 GMT -6
I would agree with everyone who has said get the coaches on the same page and focus on the weight room. If you don't already, you might want to look into some team gatherings over the summer. Camping, golf outings, team trips to the beach, etc. Also, don't underestimate the power of changing your teams appearance. I know one of the first things many new coaches do is get new uniforms, change logos, etc. I think if you are trying to change the tradition and success of a school that can also be a starting place.
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Post by juice10 on Mar 22, 2006 11:35:04 GMT -6
new to the board here but really enjoy reading the post from you guys. you guys that have been part of a successful program talk to me about what it is that helped make yours successful. i am going on 6th year at a school that had only one winning season and one 5-5 yr in 10 years previous. we have become competitive (4-6,4-6,5-5,6-4,4-6) but have not been able to top the hill and make the playoffs. looking for any ideas whether x's & o's, team building, practice organinzation, weight program etc. to put us over the top. play in very competitive region, (4of 8 teams have played for a state title in last 6 years). small school, only 200 kids in 10-12th grade. a lot of 2 way players. young assistants (who don't always agree with how things are run). only 3 varsity coaches this year (including me) 2 jr. high. really looking for things your hs coach did or your program now does that gives kids a mental boost. any tips greatly appreciated. I can easily relate to what you are saying. I have just taken over a program that has been not very good for many years. Last conference championship was 1972. I was able to pick 2 coaches that have been great so I have that covered. I guess my question is how do you get the community and parents to buy into your program since there really hasn't been a tradition here in quite some time. We have a weight-program in place, we are doing a speed/plyometric program, we are trying to do outings with the athletes and parents. What else can I do here to help. If you would like more details pm me. Any advice that you have would be greatly appreciated because I truly do want the best for the athletes and the program.
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Post by mike13 on Mar 22, 2006 16:42:28 GMT -6
Coach you may want to try a character building program. We started one two years ago and I am well pleased with the progress of the team. It has cut down on discipline problems and has brought the team together. Mark1 has a great program for students and athletes. You situations sounds a lot like mine. Good luck.
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Post by juice10 on Mar 22, 2006 16:48:57 GMT -6
Mike13,
Was your character building program called "Coaching to Change Lives"?
In your character program, are you 100% totally committed to that program or do you do just bits and pieces???
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Post by coachcalande on Mar 22, 2006 18:38:20 GMT -6
at jr high level two things made us successful...a system that put the kids in position to win..that system? the double wing smashmouth offense...the other thing? an aggressive risk taking defense that causes problems for more than 3/4 of the other guys base offense...got to take some risks when you dont have big timers on the field. sometimes you win, sometimes you lose but you never say die. coach em up and best of luck to you. discipline and a positive attitude and teaching....really teaching....show em that you love em. they will run thru a brick wall for ya.
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Post by goldenbear76 on Mar 23, 2006 2:08:57 GMT -6
Hrm I don't think there is any ONE thing that you need to stress. You need to be a balanced coach. Managing all aspects of a team. Team Building is just as important as Weight Lifting. Weight Lifting is just as important as Conditioning. Conditioning is just as important as Practice. If you can get a good mix of all of those aspects. You'll turn your program around. You have to instill that WINNING attitude in your players. Think about that when working your Team Building exercises. One thing you'll notice is that since your school hasn't had a winning season in awhile, the players feel defeated before they do anything! Let them taste success, that comes with the price of hard work. Since your starting out...Your gonna have to put a LOT of work into your program. Think of it as building a Car from scratch. Once you build the car, all you have to do is maintain it.
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Post by mike13 on Mar 23, 2006 8:55:16 GMT -6
juice it is "coaching to change lives". We take the first 15 minutes of each day and do a lesson. The kids love it. I got several comments from the community about what strong character my boys have. Even the ref's are bragging about the way they conduct themselves.
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Post by fbcoach33 on Mar 23, 2006 9:29:59 GMT -6
i agree with everything above. One other thought I would add is that I think it critical that you have a system in place for everything you do. Players hate confusion. Whether its your offensive or defensive system, the way you teaching blocking, you weight room ideas, there should be a system in place and then learn as much as you can about them. Players can sense when a coach doesnt know all the inner details of what they are teaching. I also think its importent to settle on one offensive system and defensive system, learn it from the best, hopefulley find something that gives you some flexibility based on talent, and then continue to make it better year after year. After four years of running a good plays and concepts, kids can make huge strides in their overall success.
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Post by mikewdw on Mar 23, 2006 12:12:44 GMT -6
mike13 where can i get the coaching to change lives program? mikewdw
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Post by neil on Mar 23, 2006 14:17:47 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Aug 23, 2006 18:56:08 GMT -6
here is a thought.... how would THIS sound? First day on the job, hold an organized PARENT MEETING.....to gather up as much support for the program as possible. Have a open ice cream social or whatever, chit chat, show a brief video presentation (football, weight room, graduation, etc), hand out volunteer questionares, get numbers, throw out the organization of a Parent Grid Club, then outline the schedule of events for the Football program. Just stay positive, upbeat, and encourage ANY involvement and ideas from parents (no matter if you intent to or not). From there, spend the next three weeks recruiting and chumming up to the parents in your program. THEN meet with the players.................. >> ?<<
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Post by superpower on Aug 24, 2006 12:18:48 GMT -6
Without question the first thing that you need to do is get those assistants on the same page with you. OR FIRE THIER A****!
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