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Post by emptybackfield on May 29, 2012 13:24:07 GMT -6
I know of some colleges that use their "free" time in the summer to gameplan for a couple of their tougher opponents on the upcoming schedule.
Does anyone do something similar? If so, what exactly do you do? What are you looking for? Do you self-scout yourself, etc.
I'll be an OC at the varsity level for the first time this upcoming season and with no teaching responsibilities until August, it seems like a great time to get a head start on some things.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 13:39:38 GMT -6
Some of this is hard to do, esp. at the HS level b/c so much can change w/in a year. However, I used to do some of this to our district oponents, esp. if I knew the coach and his staff were returning.
I didn't do it offensively, only defensively so I can tell you this. I "re-break" them down and then compare my new notes (which includes the info. from the game film between you and your opponents) with my old ones. I'm looking for:
1. Did they do anything out of the norm against us?
2. If so, what did they do, and did they have success doing it?
3. How well did the scouting the 1st time compare to when they played you (ie tendencies)
4. If these results are skewed, how and why?
5. Did we give up any big plays? If so, what happened and how can it be corrected?
These are just off the top of my head, and YES def. self scout yourself. Self scouting is an invaluable tool. I had my best friend, who was our OC, scout my "d" and I scouted his "o" and we compared notes once we were done (usually in late June). This really helped both of us get away from our own "built in" tendencies.
Duece
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Post by emptybackfield on May 29, 2012 17:28:29 GMT -6
Thanks Deuce.
I did some self-scouting this afternoon and already discovered some interesting stuff.
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Post by fballcoachg on May 29, 2012 17:48:07 GMT -6
like duece said, it is tough with all the turn over and change but there are some teams that are always going to do what they do. For those teams, while you can't personnel them, you can see how they will play you in certain formations etc. Self scouting is great this time of year, I found that we repped a pass play everyday and called it 12 times in the season, on the flip side, I found how dumb we can be and got away from things we need to make a concerted effort to stick with.
Also, you can pretty much break teams down in to so many types of defenses, your 4-4, 4-3, 3-3, and 3-4 to which you can have a general gameplan against and start with that when you get the tapes.
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Post by fantom on May 30, 2012 8:10:54 GMT -6
Some of this is hard to do, esp. at the HS level b/c so much can change w/in a year. However, I used to do some of this to our district oponents, esp. if I knew the coach and his staff were returning. I didn't do it offensively, only defensively so I can tell you this. I "re-break" them down and then compare my new notes (which includes the info. from the game film between you and your opponents) with my old ones. I'm looking for: 1. Did they do anything out of the norm against us? 2. If so, what did they do, and did they have success doing it? 3. How well did the scouting the 1st time compare to when they played you (ie tendencies) 4. If these results are skewed, how and why? 5. Did we give up any big plays? If so, what happened and how can it be corrected? These are just off the top of my head, and YES def. self scout yourself. Self scouting is an invaluable tool. I had my best friend, who was our OC, scout my "d" and I scouted his "o" and we compared notes once we were done (usually in late June). This really helped both of us get away from our own "built in" tendencies. Duece What he said plus: What adjustments did they make blocking scheme/pass pro How effective was our blitzes Was our game plan bad or was it a lack of execution Who they graduate Who's back We practice against our top 2-3 opponents all through camp. I'm a firm believer in setting yourself up to go at the #1 team on your schedule. If you're good enough to beat them, then you're good enough to beat the other 9. I agree with that. We've set up our defensive scheme to beat the top team in our league. In addition we'll also look at "program" types of offenses (Wing-T, triple option, etc.) and look at ways within our scheme to stop them. Turnover on the opponent's staffs hasn't been a problem as far as scouting goes. Around here there isn't much turnover among the top teams. |
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Post by Chris Clement on May 30, 2012 9:14:29 GMT -6
Self-scouting is probably the most important, as far as I'm concerned. You can notice systemic problems in strategy and technique. Even during the season, on the rare occasion when I get scout film, I find it more useful to focus on us and what we do right and wrong, because if we do our jobs, we shouldn't have to worry about a tendency of the other teams. I don't really put a ton of faith in tendencies over 3 games. If one of those games is a blowout, it's data is useless; teams evolve so much over the course of a season; A game might have been altered by a particular matchup; there may have been an injury that affected the gameplan; and really, over at most 10 or 15 instances of 3rd and long, unless it's a very strong tendency, it's not really statistically relevant.
Now, if it's May and you're jonesing for a fix, go ahead and break down a whole season's worth of your opponent. If they're consistent year-to-year break them down over the last several years. Now you can get into his head a little.
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Post by kylem56 on May 30, 2012 18:01:06 GMT -6
I use the winter/summer time as a way to get alot of work done for the upcoming season. As long as the team has the same coaching staff, I will draw up every alignment to every formation we use. Then draw in the defensive reaction (see Dennis Creehan gameplanning examples for a good example. I then write up a gameplan for that team as if we were playing them next week. Also in this report is rosters of each team, starters and returning starters, and any notes I have made from watching the wide and end zone view a couple times. I need to improve self-scouting our offense because that is probaly more helpful than anything else
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Post by CVBears on May 30, 2012 18:28:46 GMT -6
I like to look back at the notes we made prior to playing them and then look at our game with them. Do they match? What were the differences? What was their game plan? Was it successful for them? If so, why?
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Post by emptybackfield on May 31, 2012 14:35:01 GMT -6
Good stuff here guys, thanks.
I certainly going to focus on the self-scouting aspect. I would like to do something in relation to gameplanning, but would hate to have the time spent be pi$$ed away because a guy that has been a 4 front guy for years decides he doesn't have the personnel and they're going to be a 3-3 team this coming season.
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Post by buckeye7525 on May 31, 2012 17:00:24 GMT -6
One thing I've spent my time looking at in relation to off-season gameplanning is looking at how teams tried take away our base plays and the figuring out how we can counter act those.
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