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Post by RENO6 on May 19, 2012 20:12:13 GMT -6
I would like to have water at stations but im planning on short time periods, no standing around, & mass reps...so im gunna have to work in a water break...
How often should I plan a water break for a 2hr practice broken into 24-5min segments?
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Post by 19delta on May 19, 2012 20:54:15 GMT -6
Depends on a lot of things...heat, humidity, workload, full pads vs. shells, etc, etc.
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Post by Chris Clement on May 19, 2012 21:09:31 GMT -6
Where are you?
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Post by powerfootball71 on May 19, 2012 21:35:41 GMT -6
I think we run as hard of a practice as anybody. Are policy is the water station is on get it whenever you want.will also send them over at shits in practice ( o to d indy to team after tackiling circuit) have never felt players abused it or it interfered with things.
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Post by coachbuck on May 20, 2012 3:19:33 GMT -6
Reno6 we are basically going to do the same thing, high tempo practice no standing around. Two ideas Ive been kicking around. One is to have the equipment managers continually walking station to station hydrating the boys. Maybe put the water on a wagon and have the equipment manager walk it around. The other is to let or mandate that they bring a water bottle of there own and bring it with them at all times, from station to station. One thing is for sure, I will let them drink as much water as they want but they will always be hustling to wherever they are going, no walking on the field at all.
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Post by groundchuck on May 20, 2012 8:39:37 GMT -6
I always tell position coaches to just build water into their drills and Indy/group periods. If its really nasty out we plan for more stoppages and let them cool down. Honestly we let kids get water whenever they need it. We also have water bottles on the field we keep filled and that way they can grab a quick drink in the back of the line too.
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Post by blb on May 20, 2012 8:46:25 GMT -6
We give them water every 20 minutes, more often if necessary.
We do tell them "Water on the run!" but half way through practice we have a five-minute break for water and "Sky Drill" - kids all lay down helmets on chests and count clouds in the sky or whatever.
No sense in doing drills or scrimmage if they can't go full speed.
Important for them to hydrate themselves in morning before coming to first practice, too.
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Post by mhs99 on May 20, 2012 12:27:54 GMT -6
Whenever they are thirsty. I always get a new staff member every now and then who asks why we do not make them wait for water. Who cares? Treat kids right and it will come back to you. this is not the Junction Boys, times have changed. Trust me it has not made our kids soft; we are fine.
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Post by fantom on May 20, 2012 12:30:44 GMT -6
We also let them drink any time they want to and keep water bottles at each station. We do have a five minute break but that may be more for the coaches than for the kids.
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Post by outlawjoseywales on May 20, 2012 12:34:08 GMT -6
I'm in Florida. I use the expression "head related issues" and I take it very seriously. There's been a few deaths from heat related issued in Florida within the last 10 years. I can't think of a bigger tragedy than a kid dying at practice from something that is easily remedied.
As the season wears on and it gets cooler (well in the Florida kinda' way) we have less and less breaks.
But I try to have a water break written on the schedule every 20 minutes if everyone is working. There are a few times where I have it after 30 minutes, but that's rare. We don't spend time standing around the water coolers though. I put the water breaks in writing for legal reasons. I also put on the bottom of every schedule "Coaches, please remember that players are allow water anything they want it." Then I file a copy of every practice schedule for everyday with the AD.
We also have one of those "heat meter" things and we follow that too.
I have a kiddy pool full of water from a water hose in case I have one of those over heated Olineman issues I've read about. I've never had one, but I've read about them in Florida.
I do everything I can to not put my school, my staff, and myself in a position to be blamed for a kid getting hurt with a heat related issue. While we cannot stop every situation, we can certainly we aware and do the best we can do.
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Post by wingtol on May 20, 2012 12:53:33 GMT -6
We have a big water station a parent built so we can have like 15 kids watering up at a time. Works great, we send them after every 2 or so drills with the OL. Also have team water after warm up, after special teams, before and during team. Also have water with every group in Indy. The kids don't abuse the breaks so we have no problem giving them that many.
You may feel like it kills the tempo of practice but I would rather kill the tempo than a player!
Like OJW said...WRITE IT ON YOUR DAILY SCHEDULE WITH REMINDERS FOR COACHES TO GIVE WATER AS NECESSARY! You can never be too safe this day and age.
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Post by cqmiller on May 20, 2012 13:08:05 GMT -6
We have water available at EVERY station and EVERY drill during practice. CYA and make sure that everyone knows they are recommended to drink water between every drill and every rep they are not in the live drill.
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Post by fballcoachg on May 20, 2012 13:58:16 GMT -6
Like the other guys, water in the back of the drills and readily available. We give scheduled water breaks depending on the weather, it also works well when your practice is shifting gears such as moving from offense to defense so coaches can get drills set up and everyone can shift focus. But this spring we only had a few actual water breaks, the kids did a surprisingly good job of just grabbing it when they needed it and then jumping back in. We also made sure to have them drink if there was any time we stopped the drills to talk about anything.
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Post by Coach Bennett on May 20, 2012 18:56:11 GMT -6
We budget so that every kid has their own water bottle for practice. The expectation is that it is filled on their own at the start of practice so they're not poaching from the jugs. Once they're out, they can refill.
Like others have mentioned, we tell kids they can have water whenever they need it. To cover our arse, I write in italics at the bottom of the practice plan that "athletes can have water at anytime during practice."
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Post by rebelfootballcoach on May 20, 2012 23:44:21 GMT -6
We have hydration stations around the field and we also have water girls go to each group and get them water. Keep the water free flowing. Let them drink whenever they need to.
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Post by huthuthut on May 21, 2012 5:01:08 GMT -6
If you think about how often I kid can get water during a game, it only makes sense to make sure that they can get just as much water during practice. Unless you have a player who goes both ways and is on every special-team, they probably can get during every 8 plays or less during a game. We have mandatory heat timeouts in the middle of every quarter during the month of September.
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Post by spreadopt on May 21, 2012 5:23:35 GMT -6
Similar to a lot of posts on here, a program that I was at a few years ago had three different watering stations set up as well as student managers & student trainer always on the field with water bottles for players who needed it. We would still send the players on a mandatory water break every 15 minutes during pre-season 2-a-Days or whenever the heat index was high. Practicing on field turf made sure that happened more often than not early in the year.
We also made sure to plan a 5 minute break in the middle of practice where the players could relax and get water at a slower pace.
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Post by olsenray61 on May 21, 2012 5:49:08 GMT -6
Players should have about 20 oz. of water about an hour before practice starts. So it's an educational process: Educate parents, Educate players to avoid heat concerns. We have scheduled water breaks built into practice. Water, Water, Water you can't enough. We also keep track of the heat index which will dictate practice intensity, equipment prep ect. One final thought, have a written practice schedule documenting your water breaks and an emergency plan in place.
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Post by IronmanFootball on May 21, 2012 10:56:03 GMT -6
I like to water them after hitting drills (boards, okies) just to give some guys a chance to collect themselves and others a chance to calm down the teen rage. No reason to go into indy period or install all wired up when I'm trying to teach fundies.
If we do O and D on the same day I'll slow em down with water too, bc of the change in mental process.
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Post by coachcb on May 21, 2012 11:25:51 GMT -6
We have water available at EVERY station and EVERY drill during practice. CYA and make sure that everyone knows they are recommended to drink water between every drill and every rep they are not in the live drill. Ditto. This saves a lot of practice time too. My first year, the kids decided that grabbing water mean f- around until we started screaming at them. They'd need more water right after the water break because they'd get their a--es run for being lazy. So, we had water available at every single station this year.
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Post by fingerz42 on May 22, 2012 7:30:47 GMT -6
We, too, have water bottles at each station and whenever they want to drink it -- they drink it. No complaints about needing water, and no wasted time.
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Post by coachshs on May 29, 2012 20:33:19 GMT -6
Whenever they want it.
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Post by CVBears on May 30, 2012 19:02:17 GMT -6
We don't have any water breaks built in to practice at all. We have water bottles in six locations around the field (basically, every where there might be a drill going on). If a kid wants water, then he can go get it.
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Post by shotgunfivewide5 on May 30, 2012 19:17:11 GMT -6
coach, you are hearing from a guy that played in the late 70's and college in the early 80's...our water break was one piece of ice halfway during practice, one.....my advice is this, in this day in age lawsuits are multiple plus it just makes good sense to take care of your kids and make them feel special....policy has always been to have water available all around the field and i tell the kids to get a swig of water anytime you want as long as it does not mess up your rep or ind, group or team.....we do the same thing about using the restroom, do you as a coach need to be in charge of potty duty, no, our policy has never been abused and we have never had a problem with our kids being dehydrated....our kids are plenty tough on friday night plus they feel empowered by a little freedom to get water and take a crap or piss when they want to....does not make you soft..,.it is a very small way to show they that you care....we are a no huddle team and our practices are very fast paced so do not think we take our time...if you have ever had one fall out on you or die on you while under your care it will change your perspective...advice is only worth what you paid for it
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Post by Coach H on May 30, 2012 19:35:56 GMT -6
Coach,
I really think it depends a lot on your practice situation. The coaches on this site have given you some great ideas. Thanks guys.
Coach H.
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Post by swr1984 on May 31, 2012 9:41:22 GMT -6
I try to have water breaks built in every half an hour, maximum of 40 minutes. And about a 5 minute break for water/rest. Some kids I've had in the past didn't want to go get a drink, etc, because they felt they'd look "weak" or whatever.
They also can go get a drink whenever they feel the need to.
Heck, myself I try to make sure I drink water/Gatorade, etc, when they do just to stay hydrated and further maybe send the message that its something that needs to be done.
Even have the trainer come in, sometimes one from the local university and he talks to the kids and their parents. Something a program I was an assistant at really tried to hammer home and something I think I will try to do the same thing with
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