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Post by airraider on Dec 11, 2007 10:12:53 GMT -6
I once responded to a topic that if I were making the Millions of Dollars that a certain big time college coach was making, then I might would try a little harder.. and he responded that if I was not already doing that, then I should quit.. that made me think.. and this is the outcome of my thinking..
Not saying this in reference to anyone in particular..
but in the past I have really noticed a great deal of situations where I felt as if people responded with what they felt would be the best for their image and not really how they would respond if on themselves were reading it.
There are several people on here who always portray themselves in a different light, and I know I probably have been one of them from time to time.
Bottom line..
I am not a great teacher of information that I do not find attractive.. That goes for the classroom as well..
I am a lazy coach from time to time.. I do not do all that I can to be the best coach all the time..
I do fall into the trap of complacency..
I have been in situations where I might not try as hard while working for someone else as I would if I were the one whose name was attached to the program.
I have said some things both in practice and during games, which includes halftime that I probably should not have said in front of my kids.
I have done some things in my career as a coach that would be seen as borderline unethical.
I feel that those of us who have done these things before are constantly at odds with them and that we struggle to correct them.
I am human, and I make mistakes..
My name is James Thurman.. and now you know.. that I am not a perfect coach.. and I am not always correct on anything.
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 11, 2007 10:17:12 GMT -6
I've always said...it's much easier to take the high road on a message board then to actually put into practice what you are telling someone else to do...or telling someone else how to act.
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Post by brophy on Dec 11, 2007 10:25:21 GMT -6
I have questionable work ethic in things that I don't enjoy.
I should work harder staying in shape.
I probably drink too much.
I believe in a good moral Christian foundation, but I do a miserable time role-modelling that.
I'm not the greatest disciplinarian.
I have neglected family more than a few occassions
I need not swear so much.
I am a real jerk and have little regard for others feelings
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Post by phantom on Dec 11, 2007 10:30:48 GMT -6
I once responded to a topic that if I were making the Millions of Dollars that a certain big time college coach was making, then I might would try a little harder.. and he responded that if I was not already doing that, then I should quit.. that made me think.. and this is the outcome of my thinking.. Not saying this in reference to anyone in particular.. but in the past I have really noticed a great deal of situations where I felt as if people responded with what they felt would be the best for their image and not really how they would respond if on themselves were reading it. There are several people on here who always portray themselves in a different light, and I know I probably have been one of them from time to time. Bottom line.. I am not a great teacher of information that I do not find attractive.. That goes for the classroom as well.. I am a lazy coach from time to time.. I do not do all that I can to be the best coach all the time.. I do fall into the trap of complacency.. I have been in situations where I might not try as hard while working for someone else as I would if I were the one whose name was attached to the program. I have said some things both in practice and during games, which includes halftime that I probably should not have said in front of my kids. I have done some things in my career as a coach that would be seen as borderline unethical. I feel that those of us who have done these things before are constantly at odds with them and that we struggle to correct them. I am human, and I make mistakes.. My name is James Thurman.. and now you know.. that I am not a perfect coach.. and I am not always correct on anything. Well, I guess that's for me since I was the one who made the original comment. I can be blunt and I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings (I can also be sarcastic but I'm not here). I won't apologize for the comment because I meant it but I did not mean to be harsh and I'm sorry if you took it that way. |
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Post by airraider on Dec 11, 2007 10:32:43 GMT -6
I have questionable work ethic in things that I don't enjoy. I should work harder staying in shape. I probably drink too much. I believe in a good moral Christian foundation, but I do a miserable time role-modelling that. I'm not the greatest disciplinarian. I have neglected family more than a few occassions I need not swear so much. I am a real jerk and have little regard for others feelings I also find myself lacking all of those areas.. Did I mention I am Fat?  ? lol Like I just told someone through a PM.. This is me.. telling you.. that I am not perfect as a coach.. and I am extending myself to you.. as someone you can come to as a peer without worrying about me judging you.. If you only roll out the basketball as a PE teacher.. I WILL NOT judge you.. |
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Post by ajreaper on Dec 11, 2007 10:34:03 GMT -6
You were human before you were a teacher and a coach so imperfection is part of the package.
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Post by airraider on Dec 11, 2007 10:35:39 GMT -6
I once responded to a topic that if I were making the Millions of Dollars that a certain big time college coach was making, then I might would try a little harder.. and he responded that if I was not already doing that, then I should quit.. that made me think.. and this is the outcome of my thinking.. Not saying this in reference to anyone in particular.. but in the past I have really noticed a great deal of situations where I felt as if people responded with what they felt would be the best for their image and not really how they would respond if on themselves were reading it. There are several people on here who always portray themselves in a different light, and I know I probably have been one of them from time to time. Bottom line.. I am not a great teacher of information that I do not find attractive.. That goes for the classroom as well.. I am a lazy coach from time to time.. I do not do all that I can to be the best coach all the time.. I do fall into the trap of complacency.. I have been in situations where I might not try as hard while working for someone else as I would if I were the one whose name was attached to the program. I have said some things both in practice and during games, which includes halftime that I probably should not have said in front of my kids. I have done some things in my career as a coach that would be seen as borderline unethical. I feel that those of us who have done these things before are constantly at odds with them and that we struggle to correct them. I am human, and I make mistakes.. My name is James Thurman.. and now you know.. that I am not a perfect coach.. and I am not always correct on anything. Well, I guess that's for me since I was the one who made the original comment. I can be blunt and I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings (I can also be sarcastic but I'm not here). I won't apologize for the comment because I meant it but I did not mean to be harsh and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Phantom, it was not meant towards you.. or at least not directly.. I had forgotten who said it.. and did not care to go back and see.. But, do you honestly feel that every day, you put forth every inch of effort that you can? I dont.. I need to change.. change in terms of trying to do better.. but I do not know if I could ever be at my prime.. |
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Post by brophy on Dec 11, 2007 10:49:52 GMT -6
PS - I built the HIGH ROAD
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Post by dubber on Dec 11, 2007 12:39:40 GMT -6
I let people think I have more football experience than I do.
Listen up! The freaking stars below my name mean nothing, except I have hit the "reply" button over 1,000 times.......that does not make a good coach, just an obsessed internet junkie
I'm 22 years old......I only got 2 years of coaching experience
Most of the stuff I say is rancid, because I regurgitate it from others (take your pick.....tog, huey, brophy, coachcalande, airman, airraider, tedseay, rip60zgo, spreadattack, gunslinger, los, lochness, phantom, knighter..........among many others....)
I do have a lot of experience in running an organization (which is my passion), it is just not necessarily football related
Oh yeah, whenever I have a problem explaining something to a player, I get upset and say "just get it done"------which is completely unfair to them........they get yelled at because I'm an idiot
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Post by wildcat on Dec 11, 2007 12:46:18 GMT -6
Sometimes, when I change lanes on the highway, I don't use my turn signal.
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Post by coachcalande on Dec 11, 2007 12:50:50 GMT -6
I let people think I have more football experience than I do. Listen up! The freaking stars below my name mean nothing, except I have hit the "reply" button over 1,000 times.......that does not make a good coach, just an obsessed internet junkie I'm 22 years old......I only got 2 years of coaching experience Most of the stuff I say is rancid, because I regurgitate it from others (take your pick.....tog, huey, brophy, coachcalande, airman, airraider, tedseay, rip60zgo, spreadattack, gunslinger, los, lochness, phantom, knighter..........among many others....) I do have a lot of experience in running an organization (which is my passion), it is just not necessarily football related Oh yeah, whenever I have a problem explaining something to a player, I get upset and say "just get it done"------which is completely unfair to them........they get yelled at because I'm an idiot "they get yelled at because I'm an idiot " I think Ill make up tees like that for my staff if I ever get a HC gig. perfect. |
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 11, 2007 12:57:06 GMT -6
Easily the quote of the day.
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Post by aztec on Dec 11, 2007 12:59:47 GMT -6
I feel like I just walked into an AA meeting.
None of us are perfect, but I think people are trying to put their best practices out for others to see. These best practices (things you do) are what make you a good coach and the things you think will help others be a good coach. I don't think we need to go through all of our downfalls, we all have them and it goes with any profession. This is a community that is built and designed to make us all better coaches not perfect coaches. Even some of the best coaches in the world have made mistakes or have had their downfalls. For those that think we are here just for self promotion you need to look in the mirror and figure out why you are on these boards to begin with. We all have a story to tell and have passion about what we do, take what you like and ignore what you don't. Don't change who you are or what your passion.
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Post by dubber on Dec 11, 2007 13:02:18 GMT -6
Easily the quote of the day. yeah it's funny (now that I think about it) but at the same time, THAT is the one thing I HAVE to fix about myself this offseason......I gotta be more prepared than I was so now when I yell at them, it is because they are lazy (not because I am) |
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Post by los on Dec 11, 2007 13:05:13 GMT -6
Ha Ha.... thanks for including me in such esteemed coaching company Dub, but I'm an auto mechanic 1st and coach as a "hobby", (guess thats what you call it, when you never got paid)? Airraider my man, by acknowleging our many faults = we can start correcting them. I'm about 55 now.... so.... hmmmm... will have to live at least a hundred more years to make a dent in mine. And thats if I stop $crewing up - RIGHT NOW!  |
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 11, 2007 13:09:37 GMT -6
[ so now when I yell at them, it is because they are lazy (not because I am) Now I think THAT is the quote of the day |
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Post by dubber on Dec 11, 2007 13:14:11 GMT -6
This is a great thread, but it has a certain......  ......feel to it. The Man's Creed (from the red and green show) I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess...... In all seriously though, I think this is a good way to examine ourselves and eventually become better coaches and men in the process plus, it is good to make fun of ourselves (like the lightbulb thread) |
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Post by phantom on Dec 11, 2007 15:37:04 GMT -6
I just finished my 20th season at my school, coaching both sides of the ball, and I don't know our pass patterns. We use a 3-digit numbering system with the 1st digit being the protection and the other two the pattern. I have no idea what those two digits mean.
It's true that I have a lot on my plate, being the DC, DBs and OL coach. You'd think that after, say, 16-17 years I'd get the pass terminology.
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Post by spartancoach on Dec 11, 2007 16:17:41 GMT -6
Sometimes I forget to floss.
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Post by optionguy on Dec 11, 2007 16:22:45 GMT -6
I've been guilty of most, if not all, of the negative traits that have been posted. But, we aren't perfect; we will do wrong. The key is to work toward improving.
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Post by Tampa on Dec 11, 2007 18:35:31 GMT -6
I tend to bend the truth, but other than that, I'm dang near perfect!
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Post by coachnichols on Dec 11, 2007 18:36:25 GMT -6
I pick my nose sometimes.  |
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Post by tog on Dec 11, 2007 19:05:20 GMT -6
everyone should be reflective of their coaching and their lives
everyone should be able to take criticism
if it is criticism from someone i respect
i listen
i may disagree
but it will at least make me think
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Post by tog on Dec 11, 2007 19:07:19 GMT -6
also
the holier than thou stuff was one of the main reasons this board got started
we never want 1 or 2 people lording over the board that when they step in
the conversation stops because so and so said so and that must be the way
more than one way to think about things out there
exploring those thinking patterns is healthy
to find what you like
what you don't like
let's just be civil about it if we don't agree
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Post by Rooster on Dec 11, 2007 19:14:30 GMT -6
In a previous life I was John Wayne,
no really I was..
Just ask me.?
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Post by saintrad on Dec 12, 2007 0:04:26 GMT -6
PS - I built the HIGH ROAD
Dang that is just too familar a site. Not a long time resident of LA (stationed at Fort Polk for 3 yrs) but man I still ahve my old Army boots that are caked with that red clay mud/stuff. Almost looks as bad as some of the rez roads we have around here, but without that many cars.  |
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Post by saintrad on Dec 12, 2007 0:12:57 GMT -6
also the holier than thou stuff was one of the main reasons this board got started we never want 1 or 2 people lording over the board that when they step in the conversation stops because so and so said so and that must be the way more than one way to think about things out there exploring those thinking patterns is healthy to find what you like what you don't like let's just be civil about it if we don't agree excellent stuff Tog. I can say that I am glad that this thread has come up. I do feel that, at times, there have been members (in the way past) that would take a very opinionated (aka high road) and would make people feel bad about it. I am glad that the mods have worked very hard to try to limited that kind of stuff on this board. I have come across as a "holier than thou" type on more than one occassion and my wife (yes, she does read the posts every so often) reminds me that I too put my pants on one leg at a time ( unless I am very late for school) and that I am (to quote her) " a stupid moronic whop". Sorry she uses my Italian heritage against me. I do understand how the more experienced coaches like brophy and 5085 have been trying to educate us in how to get better quality answers to our questions. I appreciate their hard work for it makes me not want to beat the computer screen after someone has posted a "(fill in the blank)" thread for the umpteen dozenth time. Thanks everyone for being here and helping us grow into the best coaching site. |
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Post by crl on Dec 12, 2007 4:30:12 GMT -6
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Post by lochness on Dec 12, 2007 8:09:40 GMT -6
LOCHNESS AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT (a few of many, I'm sure):
I can be overly sarcastic sometimes
I can (wrongly) lose respect for methods of football that I don't agree with (i.e. I believe that part of what makes football "special" is TE's, FB's, and in-your-face play, so I have a very human tendancy to dislike spread attacks, etc.) I forget that football is football.
I will blast, without mercy, coaches in our meetings who make off-the-cuff suggestions that do not fit in with our philosophy or system if those coaches are not hard working and well-versed in the game (example- the coach who came on last year when his son became a freshman, and now wants our zone based read-and-attack defense to "run man coverage and blitz more!!")
Because I used to coach at the same school I played at, I would take everything very personally and it was very unhealthy for me and sometimes unfair to the kids.
I automatically assume that any parent is my enemy and is backstabbing myself, every other coach, ane the entire program. I assume that all they care about is little perfect Johnny and how he should be going to USC if only he had good HS coaching. I hate parents and have no time for them.
Sometimes I am more reactive than proactive in my playcalling.
I like the Smokehouse Burger at Ruby Tuesday's...with a tall Budweiser.
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Post by revtaz on Dec 12, 2007 9:33:13 GMT -6
Things I can improve on:
1. I swear way too much with the kids around. I don't swear at them, but I do have the mouth of a truck driver at times.
2. I was kind of lost in my philosophy. No direction. I am working real hard to improve on that.
3. I can be a prick to younger/inexperienced coaches.
4. I need to be able to reach out to the younger kids better.
Taz
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