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Post by FBCoachMike on Apr 5, 2012 12:19:40 GMT -6
Thought there was a thread on this, but can't find it.
How do you guys get your kids to watch film on Hudl? I need some ideas from the positive reinforcement angle...(all my ideas revolve around the if you don't you will run etc). Thanks.
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Post by cqmiller on Apr 5, 2012 13:14:32 GMT -6
Can't make chicken salad out of chicken $h!t coach... Find the ones that want to watch the film and get better and build rewards for those kids if that is the behavior you want to see. Another thing that Hudl and other film editing companies offer but I have found you can rarely use because the kids themselves don't want to use it.
I have kids that are complaining that they are not getting D1 offers, but they did not go through a single game last year and put in their number for ANY highlights. Hard to get a D1 scholarship when you are not even willing to make your own highlight video.
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Post by cwaltsmith on Apr 5, 2012 13:41:34 GMT -6
I didnt announce this before hand but I was having a problem with not many watching it either... soo.... week 3 I picked a kids that doesnt play a whole lot but he watched more film than anyone (he is sophomore gonna be good).. and I announced that he would be captain on Friday because he watched the most film week before. Film watching picked up.. They didnt know I could tell who watches it and who doesnt.
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Post by kw on Apr 5, 2012 13:57:31 GMT -6
Tell your kids that are trying to get to the next level they had better learn to watch film and learn how to watch it.
MY GUYS AT THE COLLEGE HAVE AN OPPONENT FILM ANALYSIS/BREAK DOWN SHEET THEY HAVE TO COMPLETE.
Some coaches will say that's college. I say bull crap. If my guys don't get it done they run 200 yards with every five yards doing 10 up downs.
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Post by FBCoachMike on Apr 5, 2012 17:15:07 GMT -6
One coach told me he puts imbedded messages in text boxes in the film...the first kid to email/call/text him with the message (i.e. "film junkie"...) gets a reward the next day, something like an ice cold gatorade or a Pay Day candy bar after practice. I'm gonna combine that with KW's "motivation" to watch film.
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Post by groundchuck on Apr 5, 2012 17:30:31 GMT -6
Last year I used rewards in the clips. For example redeem this clip for a Gatorade. We still had varsity kids who didn't log a single minute of video study outside the meeting room. So this fall we will be using a combination of carrot and stick methods.
We are also going to be giving kids quizzes about what they see online.
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 5, 2012 19:50:25 GMT -6
I'll sometimes put a funny tidbit in..like xx dresses like a girl
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Post by FBCoachMike on Apr 5, 2012 21:34:45 GMT -6
So if I give them till Wednesday to complete the opponent breakdown sheet, what should be their consequence if they don't turn it in? Or should there be a reward for the ones turning it in? Or both?
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Post by silkyice on Apr 6, 2012 21:02:14 GMT -6
Must say that we are lucky. Each kid in school has a laptop. They watch hudl during class. (After they do their school work of course). LOL
Our kids eat it up, but we also call the other teams plays out before they run them many times.
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Post by 3rdandlong on Apr 6, 2012 21:13:44 GMT -6
The sheets are important for them to fill out. Too many kids have the ability to log on and make it look as if their watching film while they walk away and play xbox
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Post by kw on Apr 7, 2012 18:45:51 GMT -6
We have Hudl so my guys will get this Sunday morning and they have until Thursday to complete it. I want them to watch a minimum of three game films of our opponent for that week. I give them there opponent scouting report on Tuesday so that will help them as well and we watch film as a unit. I will get the analysis breakdown from them on Thursday and grade it. On the top right I have the hours/minutes watched; I fill that in. With Hudl I am able so see how much time they have spent on the film for that week. Also, I give them an exam on Friday that will reinforce what they have learned by watching film on our opponent for that week so they can’t {censored} (I explain to my guys watching film is imperative; if they don’t it is like walking into a dark room and turning on the light for the first time same thing). I will grade it Friday and give it back to them on Saturday. After they complete the exam I give them a winners tip sheet and that has our audibles for that week, protection schemes, screens, special plays, a ready list, and a breakdown of the defensive of the opponent for that week, etc.. If they are injured and not playing that week they still have to complete it regardless. I don’t know if high school kids would do this? Ken Wilmesherr Assistant Football Coach Grossmont College
If they don't don't give them any candy for that week!
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Post by 1coachhansen on Apr 7, 2012 20:39:22 GMT -6
We tell out kids that we want them to watch 15 min. per day of the opponent. That's 1 hour per week. That along with the time we spend as a team watching film throughout the week and the scouting report, we feel the kids get enough exposure of our opponent. Expect much more than that, and it's overkill. JMO.
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Post by coachplaa on Apr 7, 2012 20:56:02 GMT -6
We have a half-sheet that they have to turn in by Monday's practice. Very simple. They review how they played and include one specific thing that needs work. Then they also have to watch opponent film and write down the number of the guy they will go against, and list one strength and one weakness of that gut. That's it. They can turn in the form, email me a summary, or even text it to me. Guys that forget stay after practice on Monday.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 8, 2012 6:51:53 GMT -6
Another point: you better do your work also.
I make every game available that we have on the opponents. At least two, usually 3 to 4, sometimes 10. But to ask a kid to go through all that is ridiculous. They won't do it.
First, you better ODK and you better cutup the film so the play starts right after when the clip starts.
Next, make cutups. I will make a cutup of all the films and organize them. I will show each type of play once. Some plays will get on there more than once for emphasis, or to show an explosive play, etc. I make it so they can watch and get a good feel for the opponent in 3-5 minutes or less for offense.
I show a few defensive plays. Different sets, formations, blitzes, etc. Maybe 1 minute worth. I show one each of the different kicking game. If they do two types of punt, both will be on there.
The kids can watch the whole team in summary in about 6 minutes. Kids will watch that. Once they do that and see that it is a benefit each week, they will start to watch film on there own by watching whole game tapes or all their offensive plays, etc.
You do your work, they will do their's.
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Post by champ93 on Apr 8, 2012 7:39:08 GMT -6
Ton of good ideas here on getting kids to watch film effectively.
My former school (where I teach but no longer coach) is like silkyice's school with 1-to-1 laptop school. Kids watch much more Hudl than they did before having their own laptops. (From the education standpoint, the laptop thing is another issue for another board!)
I think silkyice has the best approach. Condense the scout film down to less than 10 minutes, at least for HS kids. Pushing kids to get in 10 minutes of scout film review in a few days is a minimal commitment but effective. Making all the game films available to them allows those who wish to watch more film the opportunity to do so. But condensing the main ideas is a good way to get them to buy in. We (as coaches) have to realize that football may not be as important to our players as it is to us.
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Post by coachplaa on Apr 8, 2012 8:48:34 GMT -6
With Hudl being on iPhone and droid now, it is easier than ever for kids to watch.
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Post by Mav on Apr 9, 2012 10:32:52 GMT -6
I completely agree with silkyice. The most important thing you can do to get your players to watch more video is to create cutups.
Here's a screen capture of how we quickly makes scouting cutups to condense the amount of video the players must digest -
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Post by italianstallion on Apr 9, 2012 10:56:26 GMT -6
Wow!Great Stuff Mav!
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Post by Mav on Apr 9, 2012 12:10:56 GMT -6
Thanks Coach. I didn't mention it, but this would be one of the exact cutups we'd watch with the team and then go outside and walk through on Mondays too.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Apr 9, 2012 12:20:56 GMT -6
Another point: you better do your work also. I make every game available that we have on the opponents. At least two, usually 3 to 4, sometimes 10. But to ask a kid to go through all that is ridiculous. They won't do it. First, you better ODK and you better cutup the film so the play starts right after when the clip starts. Next, make cutups. I will make a cutup of all the films and organize them. I will show each type of play once. Some plays will get on there more than once for emphasis, or to show an explosive play, etc. I make it so they can watch and get a good feel for the opponent in 3-5 minutes or less for offense. I show a few defensive plays. Different sets, formations, blitzes, etc. Maybe 1 minute worth. I show one each of the different kicking game. If they do two types of punt, both will be on there. The kids can watch the whole team in summary in about 6 minutes. Kids will watch that. Once they do that and see that it is a benefit each week, they will start to watch film on there own by watching whole game tapes or all their offensive plays, etc. You do your work, they will do their's. Well said, Coach! Do you guys do all of your cutups on Hudl or do you do something else?
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Post by silkyice on Apr 9, 2012 13:03:38 GMT -6
Another point: you better do your work also. I make every game available that we have on the opponents. At least two, usually 3 to 4, sometimes 10. But to ask a kid to go through all that is ridiculous. They won't do it. First, you better ODK and you better cutup the film so the play starts right after when the clip starts. Next, make cutups. I will make a cutup of all the films and organize them. I will show each type of play once. Some plays will get on there more than once for emphasis, or to show an explosive play, etc. I make it so they can watch and get a good feel for the opponent in 3-5 minutes or less for offense. I show a few defensive plays. Different sets, formations, blitzes, etc. Maybe 1 minute worth. I show one each of the different kicking game. If they do two types of punt, both will be on there. The kids can watch the whole team in summary in about 6 minutes. Kids will watch that. Once they do that and see that it is a benefit each week, they will start to watch film on there own by watching whole game tapes or all their offensive plays, etc. You do your work, they will do their's. Well said, Coach! Do you guys do all of your cutups on Hudl or do you do something else? Everything is on Hudl.
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Post by thelake on Apr 11, 2012 7:16:27 GMT -6
We like to show them the page that has the minutes listed for each player. As soon as the team saw that we could see how many minutes they'll are studying film on HUDL they made sure to go on and watch.
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Post by jgordon1 on Apr 11, 2012 10:52:49 GMT -6
I like the idea of worksheets
Defensively, we will have a cut up of 25-30 plays..I will mark up each play with something. for example, I will show a pro formation...13 run 6 pass...4 toss, 4 power 4 iso 1 trap...they have only passed 1 time on first down when they we in pro....next play, look at the split between the te and ot..they like to run iso w/ wide splits..etc..so each clip tells a story
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