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Post by fasterthanthefly on Mar 25, 2012 17:48:17 GMT -6
We are a running team (average 10-12 passes a game on Varsity, less on JV and Freshmen). 29 of our 64 football players grades 9-12 played basketball this winter or about 75% of the basketball rosters. That is an awesome culture for your school's athletic department, keep that going!
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Post by piratefootball on Mar 25, 2012 19:41:41 GMT -6
Thanks to those offering suggestions on what you guys are doing to encourage basketball players to football. As always, there are tons of scenarios. Having kids talk to kids has had the greatest effect in getting kids to join football. In fact, that is why many of ours show initial interest. We are just trying to get other thoughts on what we as coaches can do after they talk to their basketball coach.
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Post by superpower on Mar 26, 2012 4:57:00 GMT -6
3. If you are trying to attract athletes from the basketball team don't run an offense that doesn't take advantage of an athletic kid. They won't want to be out if you run a ground and pound offense. Just my thoughts and experiences. I respectfully disagree, Coach. First of all, name one offense that doesn't take advantage of an athletic kid. I am not aware of any. Next, I run a ground and pound offense (DW), but 4 of our 5 varsity basketball starters were football players. In fact, there are very few basketball players in our school that are not also football players. In my opinion, the argument that basketball players don't go out for football because of a certain offense just doesn't hold water. In my experience, kids don't go out for football because they don't like contact.
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Post by bluedevil4 on Mar 26, 2012 8:16:36 GMT -6
3. If you are trying to attract athletes from the basketball team don't run an offense that doesn't take advantage of an athletic kid. They won't want to be out if you run a ground and pound offense. Just my thoughts and experiences. I respectfully disagree, Coach. First of all, name one offense that doesn't take advantage of an athletic kid. I am not aware of any. Next, I run a ground and pound offense (DW), but 4 of our 5 varsity basketball starters were football players. In fact, there are very few basketball players in our school that are not also football players. In my opinion, the argument that basketball players don't go out for football because of a certain offense just doesn't hold water. In my experience, kids don't go out for football because they don't like contact. I find it true that kids don't come out for football because of contact too. I've asked many soccer players, basketball players, and baseball players that used to play football (and ones that never have) why they don't come out, and the majority haven't even been embarrassed to say they want nothing to do with the hitting. Just ask the kids in the school why they don't come out. Most are more than willing to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 8:24:13 GMT -6
I totally agree with the last two posts. It amazes me how much false bravado most teenage males possess...and then how willingly blunt they are for why they don't want to play football!!
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Post by fantom on Mar 26, 2012 8:25:17 GMT -6
I respectfully disagree, Coach. First of all, name one offense that doesn't take advantage of an athletic kid. I am not aware of any. Next, I run a ground and pound offense (DW), but 4 of our 5 varsity basketball starters were football players. In fact, there are very few basketball players in our school that are not also football players. In my opinion, the argument that basketball players don't go out for football because of a certain offense just doesn't hold water. In my experience, kids don't go out for football because they don't like contact. I find it true that kids don't come out for football because of contact too. I've asked many soccer players, basketball players, and baseball players that used to play football (and ones that never have) why they don't come out, and the majority haven't even been embarrassed to say they want nothing to do with the hitting. Just ask the kids in the school why they don't come out. Most are more than willing to be honest. Your kids must be different from ours. We rarely hear a kid say that he doesn't play because he doesn't like to get hit. I can respect a kid who comes out and admits that. Mostly we get. "I can't play because I have to work because I have to pay for my car that I need to get to work."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 11:30:12 GMT -6
We get a lot of that, too. In thinking of this topic since my last post, we rarely lose kids due to their need to "focus" on other sports. We either get the practice is too hard excuse--which I think is synonymous with the hitting fear--or we get the work excuse.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 26, 2012 16:09:36 GMT -6
The basketball coach here has devastated the football program by telling kids not to play. 35 kids will go our for basketball but I fought to get 20.
Honestly, there wasn't anything I could do about it. I talked to him about it, he placated me and went right on telling the kids not to play. He told them they were going to get hurt playing football because it's a "dangerous sport" (sh-t you not).
This school has an obsession with basketball but the basketball HC is going to get his eventually. The basketball team finished 4th at state and the two teams they lost to played for the state title in football. A few kids that didn't play football were all talking about how physical and tough their opponents were and I pointed this fact out to them. And, then I told them that it was a crying shame they didn't play football because they probably could have gotten a basketball championship out of it.
"Next year, coach, we'll play next year." Too bad I'm already out the door.
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Post by mrjvi on Mar 26, 2012 16:32:49 GMT -6
That and coaches that tell their kids not to lift make my blood boil. They say that they don't when I confront them but the kids who play for them or have played for them say they absolutely do. Baseball is an even bigger problem at our school.
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 26, 2012 20:25:15 GMT -6
Here in KY, and UK and UL are having doing pretty well right now in late March...maybe, you all have heard. Ha. But, Darius Miller for UK is a 6'6 swing man from KY and played football up until his senior year. As a matter of fact, I think he was offered by UK in both. ....that's what I say anyway!
Also agree with Iverson and LeBron.
Two other examples that I use are Antonio Gates for SD and Jummy Graham......both former college round ball players, didn't get drafted or even sign as a Free Agent for the NBA, yet here they are Pro Bowlers in the NFL.
Scholarships is the biggest selling point, IMO.
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