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Post by mattyg2787 on Mar 27, 2012 19:45:28 GMT -6
Sack the accountant. Now seeing as most of you guys are teachers, Have you ever taught a subject that a student, no matter how hard he worked and how many tutors and teachers he had, could never learn? How is football any different? Sure there are kids that get into a stance for the first time and go I get this, lets play. I'm not saying these kids don't have a huge advantage either. WHat I'm saying is, I don't know of any other subject that someone is purely incapable of learning. How is football any different?
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Post by fantom on Mar 27, 2012 19:55:31 GMT -6
Sack the accountant. Now seeing as most of you guys are teachers, Have you ever taught a subject that a student, no matter how hard he worked and how many tutors and teachers he had, could never learn? How is football any different? Sure there are kids that get into a stance for the first time and go I get this, lets play. I'm not saying these kids don't have a huge advantage either. WHat I'm saying is, I don't know of any other subject that someone is purely incapable of learning. How is football any different? Huh? If you're asking if we have kids who look like they can play but can't, happens all the time.
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Post by ajreaper on Mar 28, 2012 10:14:12 GMT -6
Sack the accountant. Now seeing as most of you guys are teachers, Have you ever taught a subject that a student, no matter how hard he worked and how many tutors and teachers he had, could never learn? How is football any different? Sure there are kids that get into a stance for the first time and go I get this, lets play. I'm not saying these kids don't have a huge advantage either. WHat I'm saying is, I don't know of any other subject that someone is purely incapable of learning. How is football any different? No Child left behind says your wrong Who are we to argue with the U.S. department of Education?
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Post by blb on Mar 28, 2012 10:23:19 GMT -6
Sack the accountant. Now seeing as most of you guys are teachers, Have you ever taught a subject that a student, no matter how hard he worked and how many tutors and teachers he had, could never learn? How is football any different? Sure there are kids that get into a stance for the first time and go I get this, lets play. I'm not saying these kids don't have a huge advantage either. WHat I'm saying is, I don't know of any other subject that someone is purely incapable of learning. How is football any different? Football is not rote memorization of information and regurgitating said on written tests. And KNOWING how to do something is not the same as PERFORMING it at a high level of proficiency, especially when there's an opponent who's physically trying to prevent you from doing so. You now have three pages of guys telling you they don't agree with you based on years of practical experience, not idealism or theory. You're not going to convince us. Let it go.
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Post by coachcb on Mar 28, 2012 10:26:46 GMT -6
Sack the accountant. Now seeing as most of you guys are teachers, Have you ever taught a subject that a student, no matter how hard he worked and how many tutors and teachers he had, could never learn? How is football any different? Sure there are kids that get into a stance for the first time and go I get this, lets play. I'm not saying these kids don't have a huge advantage either. WHat I'm saying is, I don't know of any other subject that someone is purely incapable of learning. How is football any different? There's a big difference between cognitive ability and physical ability. I can teach all of my students to be proficient at high levels of math, assuming they put in some work on their own. I can teach a 5'7'', 150lb kid who runs a 5.1 forty how to play the CB position but I can't give him the physical tools to cover a 6'4'' 215lb WR that runs a 4.7. That kid can hit 100% of the weight training sessions and work diligently but there's a real slim chance he's going to develop enough physically to defend the more genetically gifted athletes. And, I'm speaking from experience. I worked my butt off in high school and college, doing everything I could to improve my game. But, in my brief college career, I was a 5'10'' 220lb slow NT lining up against 6'4'' 300lb guys that were faster and stronger than I was. There was a reason a neurologist ruled me medically ineligible to play after a year; my brain took a beating from better athletes.
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Post by mattharris75 on Mar 28, 2012 11:32:11 GMT -6
The problem that I have with playing a kid because he has "heart" or some other intangible is when it's used to cover up favoritism. I'd say that more often than not, 'heart' isn't used to 'cover' favoritism, but rather it's the 'source' of favoritism. Because we all, as coaches, love the kids who put their heads down and do work, even more so when it's in spite of a lack of athletic ability. Because that's what we preach to the kids. He can't change his genetics, but he's doing everything within his power to be successful. Sometimes that's not enough, but that effort in the face of futility is, in and of itself, endearing.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 29, 2012 6:38:57 GMT -6
Have minimum standards everyone has to abide by to be on the team. Coming to so many workouts, coming to practice, being eligible, getting forms signed, buying spirit pack, whatever you choose. If they meet your standards, they are on the team. Practice everyone on the team. Play the ones that perform best in practice. During and after games evaluate their performance. Use these evaluations to help you make sound decisions. Practice everyone on the team again and play the ones who perform the best in practice and game situations. Is there any other way to do it?
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Post by coachcb on Mar 29, 2012 8:21:58 GMT -6
Have minimum standards everyone has to abide by to be on the team. Coming to so many workouts, coming to practice, being eligible, getting forms signed, buying spirit pack, whatever you choose. If they meet your standards, they are on the team. Practice everyone on the team. Play the ones that perform best in practice. During and after games evaluate their performance. Use these evaluations to help you make sound decisions. Practice everyone on the team again and play the ones who perform the best in practice and game situations. Is there any other way to do it? Use a rotating playing system based on the kids' numbers, age, and last name. Everyone plays and everyone gets a cookie and a trophy for participating.
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Post by silkyice on Mar 29, 2012 8:58:45 GMT -6
Have minimum standards everyone has to abide by to be on the team. Coming to so many workouts, coming to practice, being eligible, getting forms signed, buying spirit pack, whatever you choose. If they meet your standards, they are on the team. Practice everyone on the team. Play the ones that perform best in practice. During and after games evaluate their performance. Use these evaluations to help you make sound decisions. Practice everyone on the team again and play the ones who perform the best in practice and game situations. Is there any other way to do it? Use a rotating playing system based on the kids' numbers, age, and last name. Everyone plays and everyone gets a cookie and a trophy for participating. I coached one team where that might have gotten better results. LOL
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