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Post by waltflanagansdog on Dec 13, 2007 11:51:18 GMT -6
mods can delete this. I didn't see the thread a little bit down the page.
Offensive Coordinator.
Not bad.
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Post by airman on Dec 13, 2007 12:14:17 GMT -6
it will be interesting to so how this works. Aubrun has been very conservative in their offense over the years. Now they bring in a guy who will spread them out and pass a great deal. good deal if you are the qb and wr.
be interesting to see how the airraid does in the SEC this time. Auburn has better athlete then kentucky did. Kentucky did a lot for not being a football school.
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Post by joelee on Dec 13, 2007 17:41:25 GMT -6
What Auburn has that Kentucky did not is a defense.
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Post by eric58 on Dec 13, 2007 19:16:46 GMT -6
I'm curious to see what Franklin's going to do now. The reason why I say this is because high school and junior college coaches go to D1 colleges to get to know their system. I don't think they charge money for it either. They let you come to the school and you ask as many questions as you want to for as long as you want. Now let's say I want to go to Auburn to learn their offense. You think Tubb's will allow Franklin to charge his $3000 to all coaches who want to come and learn it? I don't know if Tubb's will allow but if he tells Franklin he can't charge anybody then I'm getting a plane ticket to Auburn.
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Post by cjkal30 on Dec 13, 2007 21:17:25 GMT -6
From what I have heard of Franklin I am sure he worked out a deal before he accepted. He makes to much $$$$ to just have it given out all of the sudden!!!!
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Post by saintrad on Dec 13, 2007 22:02:23 GMT -6
I am happy for Franklin (well not really since I dont know him), but is there a way we can turn this into a football coaching thread rather than a smack board thread.
I would my concerns as to how much Tuberville is going to give the reigns to Franklin. Yes he has a great system and it has been done at D-1, but is he going to let Franklin use his "proven" system or is he going to let Franklin introduce specific concepts into the base Auburn scheme?
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Post by spreadattack on Dec 13, 2007 22:15:58 GMT -6
Saintrad, good concern. If I'm Franklin (especially with the independent income stream) I better get full reign.
And as a coaching thread I think the visit/selling the product issue has to be important. Letting HS/other coaches go to D1 schools is all a part of networking/recruiting etc. It has to matter.
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Post by saintrad on Dec 13, 2007 22:18:59 GMT -6
it should be interesting to watch. I have always liked Auburn (over bama) as the SEC team I like to root for (in passing usually) and would be really interested in how well Franklin can integrate his system into the Aubrn way of things. Plus, I hated Broges for leaving Oregon after one year.
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Post by sls on Dec 14, 2007 7:18:37 GMT -6
It said at football scoop that Probst is going to Auburn also.
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Post by neil on Dec 14, 2007 8:40:03 GMT -6
I'm curious to see what Franklin's going to do now. The reason why I say this is because high school and junior college coaches go to D1 colleges to get to know their system. I don't think they charge money for it either. They let you come to the school and you ask as many questions as you want to for as long as you want. Now let's say I want to go to Auburn to learn their offense. You think Tubb's will allow Franklin to charge his $3000 to all coaches who want to come and learn it? I don't know if Tubb's will allow but if he tells Franklin he can't charge anybody then I'm getting a plane ticket to Auburn. Tony, while at Troy, allowed coaches and staffs to come in and watch tape and visit about their schemes, or watch practice. Not sure about where you are from or what the local D-1 school is, but here at LSU if I went to visit with Crowton, he would not tell me what their no-huddle secrets are, or what hand signals mean. If I wanted to know about their SCAT package, he'd share all of the X's and O's I wanted to know, let me sit down and watch cut-ups and ask plenty of questions, but he is not going to be accessible on a Sunday night so I can brainstorm with him and bounce ideas off. What you pay for is obviously the clinic (which is unlike any clinic you have ever attended), but the DVD's to go back and watch clinic over and over. You get thousands of cut-ups on drills, practice sessions, and cut-ups of other high schools plus Tony's teams in both practice and games. You have access to call and get ideas or bounce ideas off of him. Every Sunday we do a conference call with all of the coaches in the system to be able to do the same thing. I can't send my game tape to LSU and have them tell me what I could do better. Those are things that the System allows you to do. Tony will continue to open up his staff room to visitors now that he is at Auburn. I just hate it for LSU. Great defense behind the AIR RAID for the 1st time. It will be of great interest to me, to see if this does affect AU's defense, because many feel that this style of offense makes your defense soft. |
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Post by sls on Dec 14, 2007 8:44:11 GMT -6
I just hate it for LSU. Great defense behind the AIR RAID for the 1st time. It will be of great interest to me, to see if this does affect AU's defense, because many feel that this style of offense makes your defense soft. I think there is some merrit to this idea within HS, especially in a 1 platoon system, but I don't think this should be a problem in college when the O and D spend so little time together. Just MHO. |
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Post by morris on Dec 14, 2007 9:07:36 GMT -6
Do not overlook the money Franklin will be bringing into AU. While at Troy teams woudl bring players and whoel team in after going to Franklin's clinic. They did it because the practices and drills would be the exact same as what they would do at home. It was another week of practice for them with more coaching.
Now think of the same thing but now kids will be coming to an SEC school. To me that is huge for the kids and for AU. They can use it as a recruiting tool and can almost work a kid out and ge thim on film doing the drills and practice. They get the money and the kids get a chance to get noticed.
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Post by deaux68 on Dec 14, 2007 9:43:48 GMT -6
Not talked about, but he should be a great recruiter for Auburn. Franklin has got a ton of contacts in Alabama. I'm sure Auburn will go hard after the receiver from Foley.
There are a lot of good story lines here:
-Will Tommy just turn the whole thing over to Franklin?
-Hurt or help an excellent defense in Auburn?
-I'd keep an eye on Propst.
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Post by neil on Dec 14, 2007 10:25:44 GMT -6
I just hate it for LSU. Great defense behind the AIR RAID for the 1st time. It will be of great interest to me, to see if this does affect AU's defense, because many feel that this style of offense makes your defense soft. I think there is some merrit to this idea within HS, especially in a 1 platoon system, but I don't think this should be a problem in college when the O and D spend so little time together. Just MHO. I agree with you. At the same time, and maybe it was because it was Kentucky not really known for D, their Achilles heel at UK was their defense. |
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Post by cjkal30 on Dec 14, 2007 11:14:17 GMT -6
What is probst going to coach at AUburn? BC franklin is OC/QB coach
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Post by jburch on Dec 14, 2007 12:12:15 GMT -6
AU spring clinic will be interesting!!!! If TF is like Borges he will give you one damn play every time you see him speak! Definitely no "secrets"
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Post by coachcb on Dec 14, 2007 12:50:46 GMT -6
I just hope they don't run into a Houston Nutt/Gus Mahlzan situation in Auburn. I just don't see Tuberville kicking completely over to Franklin's system.
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Post by airman on Dec 14, 2007 13:27:46 GMT -6
word is people are tired of tuberville and always being close to but not a top tier team.
Good head coaches, those who are comfortable with themselves and can keep their ego incheck allow the coordinators to do their jobs. the head coach is like the chairman of the board. He cannot do every thing.
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Post by adw30 on Dec 14, 2007 14:24:19 GMT -6
I just hope they don't run into a Houston Nutt/Gus Mahlzan situation in Auburn. I just don't see Tuberville kicking completely over to Franklin's system. Everything I've read and heard is that TT is fully committed to alowing Coach Franklin to run his system. Tommy Tuberville talks offense, Brandon Cox, Auburn recruiting, Bobby Petrino and more Posted by Charles Goldberg, Birmingham News December 13, 2007 2:23 PM Categories: Football A day after introducing new offensive coordinator Tony Franklin and his new-fangled spread offense to Auburn fans, head coach Tommy Tuberville said his Tigers will largely be old school for one more game. Tuberville said he'll stick with fifth-year senior Brandon Cox rather than turning the reins over to freshman Kodi Burns for the Chick-fil-A Bowl against Clemson on Dec. 31. AP Photo Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, left, and Clemson's Tommy Bowden meet the press, helmet and trophy at Chick-fil-A gathering.``Brandon, this is his game coming up,'' Tuberville said Thursday. ``This is his last game as an Auburn Tiger. Kodi has a lot of games in front of him. The offense we're bringing in will fit him a lot better. That's one of the reasons we're looking at the spread, to match our personnel.'' Besides talking favorably of Burns, at least for the future, Tuberville touched on various aspects about his new offense, how it should help recruiting, as well as doing the ol' soft shoe around nemesis Bobby Petrino being hired at Arkansas. All of that was at a Chick-fil-A confab, and there will be more on that in Friday's Birmingham News. But there's more right here, too... **Despite the chance to put in the new offense over much of December, Tuberville said he's stick with his usual bowl schedule by practicing only about 10 days. He said that, from his experience, gives his team the best chance to win the bowl (since it won't be worn out), but limits how much of the new offense will be used in the game. ``Tony is going to come in and we'll look at some of it. But you can't, in eight or nine practices, try to put in this offense.'' **Tuberville said Franklin will run his spread offense, but ``we're still going to be a running football team. You've got to be able to run it.'' **Tuberville said the spread offense will help recruiting. ``We were having a little bit of problem recruiting receivers because we were only using two a game and not six or seven or eight a game like some of these teams. This will allow us to broaden our recruiting base.'' **He said Franklin's spread offense is making him change how he looks at the game. ``The biggest difference in his philosophy and mine,'' Tuberville said, ``is he's going to set up the run by passing the ball. We've set up the pass by running the ball.'' **Tuberville tried to dance around Petrino, who almost took his job after the 2003 season and who jumped from the Atlanta Falcons to Arkansas this week. ``I'll tell you, he's a good football coach,'' Tuberville sidestepped. But won't playing Arkansas mean more next season? ``I never really liked playing Arkansas because I grew up a Razorback fan. That game will have a little bit more intrigue in terms of media attention, I'm sure.'' Hmmm. You're not going to bite on this subject, are you? ``No, no,'' Tuberville said. Gold Mine editor's note: We understand some haven't been able to leave comments recently. That has/is being fixed. Try it. Problems? Send me an email at cgoldberg@bhamnews.com. |
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Post by crl on Dec 15, 2007 1:05:06 GMT -6
IMHO the price just went up!
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Post by coachdawhip on Dec 16, 2007 17:06:18 GMT -6
Well it will be good to see the Air Raid at Auburn, lights, camera, action!
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Post by coachgreen05 on Dec 18, 2007 11:02:14 GMT -6
Whats the fascination with Franklin? Maybe Im missing something. I hope this isnt the bubblegum offense that UTEP,Mumme,Leach runs?  Hes only running basic shallow cross and drive concepts. EVERY NFL team runs them. |
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Post by sterry20 on Dec 26, 2007 16:03:53 GMT -6
Does anyone know of Division II or III college who attended the Tony Franklin Seminars? Did they feel it was worth it?
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Post by airitout616 on Dec 27, 2007 18:59:34 GMT -6
What is probst going to coach at AUburn? BC franklin is OC/QB coach Probst will coach RB's is the word. Whats the fascination with Franklin? Maybe Im missing something. I hope this isnt the bubblegum offense that UTEP,Mumme,Leach runs? ???rd is Coach Pobst will coach RB's. BUBBLE GUM ?? IF you mean scoring points is bubble gum then yes thats what hes going to run im sure. PS Utep dosent run the Air Raid. |
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Post by Tooch43 on Dec 27, 2007 21:42:54 GMT -6
Fordham went to the clinic I believe. They made the playoffs this year.
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Post by hemlock on Dec 28, 2007 7:07:11 GMT -6
They will not run the Air-Raid in the bowl-game.
However, Tuberville is a smart man. He hired Franklin to run his system. Remember, since Tubeville fired Noel Mazzone he has been through two additional offensive coordinators. People forget that Mazzone was a 1-back spread guy and was instrumental in developing the scat concept with Norm Chow at NC State a few years back. It's now a staple of the Jets red zone package.
I'm sure that Tuberville knows what he is getting with Franklin. Franklin is a savvy coach and business man who was not going to sell out without getting what he wants. Tuberville understands, I'm sure, that you hire Franklin for a purpose; he's not going to shackle him.
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Post by gulfcoastoffense on Dec 28, 2007 9:15:17 GMT -6
As an Auburn fan and a former coach in Alabama (up until last year) I do not see Rush going to Auburn. He was a pipeline to Alabama. Next to Franklin, Alabama fotball was Rush's best friend.
Im going to the Auburn clinic in the spring to see the difference in what information they give to coaches! Last year when the Auburn staff came to Decatur to put on a mini clinic, me and about 3 other coaches sat down at a table with Borges and he talked to us for over an hour, FOR FREE. I know of a couple staffs from back home going to a Franklin clinic this year and still paying the $3000.
As far as giving him complete control, I just cant imagine Tuberville allowing that.
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Post by jw8 on Dec 31, 2007 23:46:12 GMT -6
Well after the bowl game what are some thoughts on what Franklin was able to do in a short time. There were some periods where things did not click but you could see the potential. I would think that going into spring that they will be excited about what changes they made. Fun game to watch tonight.
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Post by hemlock on Jan 1, 2008 8:35:15 GMT -6
It was very scaled down, but the fact that the offense is so simple allowed him to put the nuts and bolts of the package.
Tuberville made a decision akin to one I made when I was last coaching HS. We had a kid who was incredibly mobile, not too terribly bright, but with a very good arm, but not the requisite footwork to operate directly behind center. Franklin, who if given his way, would much rather air the ball out, will nonetheless exploit Burns' running ability. I believe the move to Franklin is designed to get the most out of Burns the quickest, without actually having to rework his entire game; the nice thing about Franklin's system or version of the Air Raid (Leach would have none of Burns, mind you) is that he will adapt the system to fit the skills of his people. Burns in Borges' system, and I think this is what motivated Tuberville more than anything else, would be a disaster, almost like Brent Schaffer at Ole Miss.
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Post by joelee on Jan 1, 2008 9:21:00 GMT -6
Juco transfer Chris Todd is coming in as well. He has run the Franklin System since his Sophomore year in High school. Originally went to Texas Tech, not a runner but probably an upgrade over Brandon Cox who played most of the game tonight.
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