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Post by coachroberts99 on Jan 25, 2012 7:07:30 GMT -6
Hi there guys,
Quick question, potentially this coming season I could have a deaf player, who is basically totally deaf and uses sign language although he says "I can speak English, but I doubt you could understand it".
I've been learning basic sign language, but can't find anything for football terms, ie Block and catch..... Does anyone have any links or resources for coaching football to the deaf?
Any help would be appreciated, and in return I can tell you how to order spaghetti dinners, the sign for basic farmyard animals and other such useless terms i have managed to find!
Thanks,
Matt
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Post by coachorr on Jan 25, 2012 7:33:51 GMT -6
We had a kid like that on our team once, he played defense and it was never an issue. His translator showed up and translated most everything and the kid was real good at living vicariously through the guy in front of him in line in practice, so when it was his turn for a rep he was always ready to go, usually more so than the regular kids. He recognized that his loss of hearing was a weakness and worked extra hard to make up for it and was a good football player because of it. He played nose guard so he never jumped off sides.
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Post by JVD on Jan 25, 2012 7:46:57 GMT -6
Had the same at my HS when I was a soph. (He was a senior)
Played D-Line, watched the signals from the line (LB Called the defenseive play) so he knew what to do.
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Post by pittss11 on Jan 25, 2012 8:22:27 GMT -6
I coached a deaf football player. He was a very skilled player. He started at linebacker and tailback. He could read lips which was a big help. The kids in his class were very helpful most of them new sign language. His classmates will be a big help to you.
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Post by coachroberts99 on Jan 25, 2012 8:41:34 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies guys, I'm sure it wont be a problem, this is senior amateur stuff, so no class mates unfortunately, and he wont be bringing a translator.
I've emailed a couple of organisations, but like I said really could do with the signs for football specific terms, which is proving tricky, I'm hoping just for the real basics like "block" and "catch".
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Post by veerman on Jan 25, 2012 10:19:55 GMT -6
come up with your own "key" signals that you can do that will let him what to do. Ex: maybe pushing your hands out may mean "block", and fish hook in mouth signal means for him to run a hook route. You can get creative with it.
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Post by coachroberts99 on Jan 25, 2012 10:55:12 GMT -6
Ex: maybe pushing your hands out may mean "block", Unfortunately I think for our OL at times the best signal would be to spin on the spot looking confused.... But I think to be honest set terms don't really exist, and there appears to be a lot of regional variation to signing too, so I think this will be the way forward. I look forward to a season of confusing tho "Coach, you told me to run to the town hall and ask for a Parrot!" |
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Post by tackle on Jan 25, 2012 23:08:35 GMT -6
California school for the Deaf (Fremont) has a football team . May want to contact coach for info on how they coach. I assume they have adapted or created their own signs for football specific vocabulary. www.csdeagles.com/ |
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Post by pvogel on Jan 26, 2012 2:22:52 GMT -6
We have a stud freshman DE who is pretty deaf (hes not 100% but hes pretty close). He's great at reading lips though and very attentive, but can only really be coached if hes looking at you and its a reasonably close distance. His coach made color coded cards for certain situations for him (like our calls for pass rush, hold your water, stunts, etc.). It worked real well for him.
he did jump a couple of times though... a bit overly aggressive on what movement by the O is.
He will be getting reps this spring and may be our QB next year. If thats the case, we may become a no huddle team and just call everything with symbols from the sideline.
I always have a whiteboard with me at practice. Im sure that would come in handy with a deaf kid.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jan 26, 2012 20:52:52 GMT -6
You could make a few of your own signals just for the two of you to fill the gaps. Or ask him what "catch" is, surely it's come up before in his life.
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 27, 2012 9:54:33 GMT -6
Totally random thought, but what would having someone there on game day who can sign / translate...even if it's the boys parent(s)?
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Post by cwaltsmith on Jan 27, 2012 11:58:53 GMT -6
I coached a deaf kid 2 years ago that played DE and TE and won Mr. Football lineman. He now plays at Austin Peay State Univ in Tennessee. He could read lips. We came up with signs for things and he read signals from coach. Great young man.
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Post by mrsixx6 on Jan 28, 2012 7:48:22 GMT -6
I had a kid who played WR for me for 3 years that was totally deaf. His translator (special ed teacher) got a "stipend" from the district to be at every practice and game and she was great. However, after the 1st year we really didn't need her as we ended up making our own signals for routes, releases, whatever. This all ended up morphing into our version of no huddle as the receivers and QB got to where they never had to talk, just looked at the coverage, each other, and started throwing signals out. Ref asked us one time if we knew our kids were flashing gang signs during the game...Idiot. The boy (6-3, fast and athletic) went on to play D-II ball in NC. Great , great kid.
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Post by flingt on Jan 28, 2012 9:58:09 GMT -6
You could always contact Gallaudet university in Washington, DC. We played them when I coached college.
They actually came up with the huddle in 1892 to call plays so their hand signals were not seen.
You may actually make some connections to help you player.\
Good luck.
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