caseys8527
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Post by caseys8527 on Jan 20, 2012 14:22:45 GMT -6
Not necessarily your team - but how much better were you as a coach your second year of being a head coach? I think back a year ago and I hadn't even interviewed for my job that I am in.
Looking back where I was I can honestly say I was an idiot who was damn lucky to talk his way in to this job. Today I have maybe half a clue but am worlds away from where I was. At least I Think?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 14:28:33 GMT -6
Edit: I posted and then saw your post specified HEAD coach, so my original thought wasn't relevant
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Post by groundchuck on Jan 20, 2012 15:23:32 GMT -6
I was better because I had a more concise plan of what I wanted to accomplish and the plan for how to make that happen. I also knew the kids and community better. I also think the staff knew me better, and I knew them better. I think the biggest growth for all of us took place between year 2 and year 3.
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caseys8527
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Post by caseys8527 on Jan 20, 2012 15:46:35 GMT -6
Can you say what the biggest step was?
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Post by wybulldogs on Jan 20, 2012 16:00:01 GMT -6
For me the biggest jump in year two was the result of a few things...
1. Better organized. I thought I had my stuff together in Year 1, I was wrong. 2. More comfortable in the role. I second guessed myself too often during that 1st year. In the second year I told myself that I would stick to my guns, and not try to please everyone. As a result, I had a much better season. I was happier, the season also much that much smoother, and as a result I had much more confidence. 3. Make everything easier on yourself. Coming into that first year, you have a bunch of ideas that you want to try. Your thought process is that it will make things easier for you, but as a result it just causes you more stress. Dump that stuff, get the basics right, then expand on them. Don't try to reinvent the wheel.
I went from being the Freshman DC. I coached running backs, and linebackers. I knew the entire defense, knew enough about the offense. Then in the offseason I became the HC, our former HC had been pulled up and made an assistant on the varsity staff. He called all of our offense. I had to learn the entire offense, and be comfortable with it. I really didn't become comfortable calling it in games till the middle of that season. I also had to hand off the defense to another assistant, and that was a tough thing to do.
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baraboo99
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Post by baraboo99 on Jan 20, 2012 17:53:18 GMT -6
In 2010 I took over a club that was in trouble. Our senior team had a big generation shift, and when we started the season with 14 players. This club had a beer league attitude, play for fun...practice optional. I butted heads with several veterans and by the end of the year we had maybe 6 true seniors left. We went 0-6 in the 2nd Division.
Last season due to a league reshuffle the 2nd Division and 1st Division were combined into one league. We had a great off season, the club's first organized off season, and came into the year with high expectations. We started off with 2 shutout losses, but we played hard and made the top 2 teams in the league have to earn their victories after they had assumed that the D2 bottom dwellers had no fight in them. We then reel off 4 wins in a row including a thrilling overtime win over a heavily favored rival. We ended the season 5-5, which was a huge improvement on the previous year. Oh and our roster had an average age of 19.½ in a league of full grown men.
Now getting ready for year 3 our senior team has over 40 players and we are averaging high numbers at our off season trainings. 2012 we make the playoffs.
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 20, 2012 18:36:51 GMT -6
This will be my second year as HFC and I can already tell its going to be a much better year. I am a lot more organized, confident and know both the offense and defense in and out. There were times last year I felt so confused and overwhelmed due to the fact that I was the HC. Things will be way different this year. I can feel it, my assistants can feel it and so can the kids in the weight room already.
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Post by dbcoach19 on Jan 20, 2012 19:19:59 GMT -6
I'm in my 2nd offseason as head coach, just finished my first season. Like most coaches said just a lot more comfortable with the situation now. For me the easiest thing is having a lot more grasp of what's going on and what I can expect during the season. We ran a new offense and it was my first time calling plays so that was my main concern coming into the season. Now I'm just fine tuning the offense and thinking up a few more wrinkles to add in, but no more anxiety over the unknown of what could happen. I don't know what will happen next year, but I know what to expect atleast.
Like wybulldogs said stick to your guns and believe in your system and philosophy. At one point in year 1 I was influenced by parents/school on my play calling and the team suffered from it. Most head coaches have the most knowledge and/or put the most time into the game so why listen to someone who only watches every Friday night?
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Post by tango on Jan 21, 2012 9:09:52 GMT -6
I was lucky to have a former head coach on the defensive side of the ball and I became a much better defensive coach. I could not have done it without him and I would not have took the job if he had not came out of retirement to help. The second season he made the statement I am going to have to coach because he is moving ahead of me. Best compliment ever.
I called the offense and ran the flexbone offense and we see junk defenses all the time and the second time around you have a much better idea of what you may see.
Of course all the stuff everyone else has stated above. Just the confidence that I could handle the job and really feel like the team was now mine. I was able to put more time into things during the down period to help out. Booster clubs, field and equipment up grades, weight room planning, JV planning, bringing in assistants to help the program, isolate players that would make us better at certain positions and work with them, how to delegate was much better and after 16 years still getting better. Had our banquet last night and it was like a machine for the first time because I finally will ask people to help.
I never really thought I would be a head football coach with my back ground being baseball and I was the head baseball coach at the time. So my focus really changed, I went every where to find out things and that happen during the down time after the first year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2012 9:52:11 GMT -6
A better "coach", no, a better "manager of people" yes. Which is what the HC ultimately is. I learned how better to manage people and delegate authority. The latter, or lack of, almsost ran me into the ground my 1st year as HC. I acutally think I got a little worse as a coach in my 1st year b/c I was concentrating so hard on managing and organizing people. The key is to learn how to get better at both!
Duece
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Post by shields on Jan 23, 2012 4:47:54 GMT -6
While we didn't get better on paper (Win-Loss Column), we sure scared the h**l out of everyone on our schedule. In year one, we focused on Commit and many of the seniors never fully bought in (I was their thrid HC.). In year two, our focus turned more to Compete. I truly believe had we found was to two platoon more people (9 of 11 went both ways the majority of the time), we would have had more wins in the win column and made the playoffs. Changes are under way for us to do that so in year three, our mantra is Win. We are setting our sights on making the playoffs for the second time in school history.
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Post by wybulldogs on Jan 23, 2012 9:35:24 GMT -6
During my first year, I had a good group of talent, but they had no heart, and refused to play as a team. It was a stressful time for me, and I tried just about everything to get them to mesh. Unfortunately, I was still trying to find myself as a head coach. We went on a 3 game run at the end of the season, but the previous 6 games weren't worth remembering. I had some issues with players, but because of their talent, I put up with too much crap. I eventually tossed one of the kids off of the team, because I just couldn't take it any longer.
This last season, I had slightly less talent, but an insane level of heart with these kids. I stood my ground, had one issue, he was removed from the team in Week 1, and we never looked back. Went 8-1, and our loss was a close one.
That second year, the decisions came easier, I was more sure about the direction of my team and my program.
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Post by blb on Jan 23, 2012 9:42:30 GMT -6
Bobby Bowden's theory was Year 1 you lose bad, Year 2 you lose close, Year 3 you win close, Year 4 you win big.
In my experience first year you implement your program as completely as possible.
Second year you evaluate, adjust or adapt as necessary.
Should be in your "comfort zone" by third year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 10:07:10 GMT -6
Bobby Bowden's theory was Year 1 you lose bad, Year 2 you lose close, Year 3 you win close, Year 4 you win big. In my experience first year you implement your program as completely as possible. Second year you evaluate, adjust or adapt as necessary. Should be in your "comfort zone" by third year. I agree with this, but this doesn't hold true in today's fast paced "I want it now" world. You better back up at least one year for each of those, and that's if you have an admin. that's worth their salt. Usually it's "win big NOW" for year 1...unfortunately... Duece
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Post by sayahk on Jan 23, 2012 10:16:42 GMT -6
I would agree with Duece. I have certainly have gotten better at managing people. I have also learned how to delegate more. I have assistants to help with everything in the program. I have to trust they will do what is needed. I have definitely gotten better in this year 2.
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Post by fred on Jan 23, 2012 10:59:05 GMT -6
This is an interesting question for me as I just finished my second year as a HFC and have spent my time since the season evaluating everything in our program. The 2 biggest things I found were these: 1. I did a better job with matching our schemes to our personnel. We changed our defense and although we continued to run the same plays on the offensive side we changed our focus and formations to better fit our personnel. 2. I thought this was the year we would get over the hump and win more games which lead to a couple of negatives. I became more focused on the end result than getting better all the time ( this is directly opposed to the philosophy I have about coaching) which lead to me not enjoying the season and not handling situations as well. Needless to say as we head into next year we are going back to focusing on the process and letting the result of our efforts take care of themselves.
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Post by lassen on Jan 31, 2012 14:37:23 GMT -6
This season we started to years ago is actually my second time going into a second year as HC.
First two years of football I coach our Under 16 team (started out as HC in a completely new youth program). The first year I was lost, had no clue on where to start or end, but I learned alot about time management and organization, so my second year we got thing done and won our league.
Next year I moved up to HC our senior team (19 and up), and had several assistant coaches, which was I first. We made the playoffs, but once again, the major lesson learned was organization and focusing on fundamentals. I also let two of my assistants completely run our defense, which I learned I needed to get more involved in.
So right now, having just started season 2 as a Senior HC, I feel that I'm leagues better than last year, but obviously there is always something to learn in our business
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Post by fingerz42 on Feb 8, 2012 12:35:08 GMT -6
I am entering my third year as a Varsity HC. Honestly, looking back on my first year, which was only about 18 months ago, I have come a longggg way.
The first year was kind of a 'finding my own' type year. My second year went better in many ways; relationship with parents/students, organization, communication, practice tempo, team unity, staff additions, and the list goes on. This upcoming year is going to be even better.
Though I thought I knew it all and was ready for anything, looking back just 18 months I feel almost a bit embarrassed of how little I knew. And I'm sure looking back in another 18 months I will say the same.
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