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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 12, 2012 16:35:16 GMT -6
I want/need to write a short email to the parents explaining the benefits of their sons attending conditioning in the off-season. If anyone has one that they have sent I would like to see it.
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Post by coachjd on Jan 12, 2012 17:13:43 GMT -6
yes their are benefits, but you also need to tell them that their are physical expectations playing football, so the weight room is an expectation.
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Post by JVD on Jan 13, 2012 9:18:39 GMT -6
Great idea coach... I like that idea.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 13, 2012 13:10:21 GMT -6
Dear Enabling Mommy and Daddy,
Our lack of success over recent years is due to a lack of commitment in the off-season. We get planted game in and game out because your children are smaller, weaker, and slower than their opponents. Also, it appears they are lazier as well; a time commitment of 4-5 hours a week of weight training is too strenuous. My strong suggestion to you is to pull the pacifier out of your boys' mouths and get their a$$es to off-season conditioning before yet another one of them is permanently physically disabled because they were tackled by a hard-working, committed athlete at ___ Rival High.
Love,
Disillusioned Football Coach.
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Post by coachdean42 on Jan 13, 2012 15:10:47 GMT -6
coachcb, amazing how very true that is! Wouldn't it be great to be so matter of fact with parents? It is amazing how kids and parents respond to good ol fashioned hard work. I am sick of those people that think that being good just happens! When you figure this issue out, write and book and retire!
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Post by coachcb on Jan 13, 2012 16:24:27 GMT -6
When you figure this issue out, write and book and retire! I have worked in four different programs in my career and I've never seen this issue completely resolved. I coached a safety in a very successful program who did everything he could to get out of working during the athletic training period. As the story goes, he didn't get better, the kids around him did, and he didn't play a down his senior year. His mother was after us like a rabid dog all season long. She sent letters to the administration and even the school board (in a district with 4,000+ high school kids in it) and we couldn't help but laugh.
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 13, 2012 16:56:31 GMT -6
Dear Enabling Mommy and Daddy, Our lack of success over recent years is due to a lack of commitment in the off-season. We get planted game in and game out because your children are smaller, weaker, and slower than their opponents. Also, it appears they are lazier as well; a time commitment of 4-5 hours a week of weight training is too strenuous. My strong suggestion to you is to pull the pacifier out of your boys' mouths and get their a$$es to off-season conditioning before yet another one of them is permanently physically disabled because they were tackled by a hard-working, committed athlete at ___ Rival High. Love, Disillusioned Football Coach. Any time you need an assistant coach...hit me up. That is legendary.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 14, 2012 6:44:47 GMT -6
CB - i wish I could send that but I don't think it would go over well. So nobody has a standard email memo they send out to parents?
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Post by jlenwood on Jan 14, 2012 7:40:47 GMT -6
What we did was lay out our plan for the off-season S&C program along with a points system for rewards. We then had a meeting with all of the potential players and went over it in detail, asking any questions etc.
On the last page it was a contract, we needed the players and PARENTS to sign the contract to get in the program. We laid out very clearly what the expectations were, and what the rewards were. We even had some parents come and meet with the coaches to discuss the plan. So far we have had 20-25 kids per session, this from of team with around 45-50 kids. The rest are in other sports. And I am happy to say that they have been working their butts off.
There will always be lazy kids (and parents) who think they can get by with just "talent", but by and large I have found if you push a kid with a specific goal in mind, you show them how to get results, they will work hard.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 14, 2012 10:45:02 GMT -6
Dear Enabling Mommy and Daddy, Our lack of success over recent years is due to a lack of commitment in the off-season. We get planted game in and game out because your children are smaller, weaker, and slower than their opponents. Also, it appears they are lazier as well; a time commitment of 4-5 hours a week of weight training is too strenuous. My strong suggestion to you is to pull the pacifier out of your boys' mouths and get their a$$es to off-season conditioning before yet another one of them is permanently physically disabled because they were tackled by a hard-working, committed athlete at ___ Rival High. Love, Disillusioned Football Coach. While I sense a strong amount of sarcasm in this post, there are a lot of guys that think this way and it drives me nuts. Mostly because a lot of the guys that think this are too lazy to get off whatever stool they're sitting on in the weight room to actually monitor, demonstrate or model what they actually want weight lifting to look like. Kids are generally mirrors of their leadership and if all they ever see is people who don't put any effort into anything themselves and just yell and complain and blame others all the time, guess what? That's exactly how they're going to be. Want hard work in the weight room or other places? Show the kids what it looks like. Sorry. End rant.
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Post by pmeisel on Jan 14, 2012 11:28:02 GMT -6
I went to a high school where the coaches of all sports cooperated to run an off-season conditioning program that was open to all athletes who were not out for a sport that season. It was essentially open, and the coaches and captains promoted it. The coaches took attendance and kept stats, not so much "why weren't you here yesterday" but more "look at the progress you are making" and "look at what Joe's doing..." ... very positive vibe.... Also, they worked with all the athletes, including the non-football players. It was mostly football players, but there were a good sprinkling of non-football athletes.
It was the place to be after school, that's where your friends and the cool kids were.
Of course, we didn't have X-box or the internet then.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 14, 2012 13:03:11 GMT -6
larrymoe, That letter is exactly how I felt about my last gig ( I just resigned). I did everything that you described along with a whole lot more. I also drove a bus all over the place picking kids up for summer weight training. The first week, I got five. The next week, I had one. So, I had to can it. I could he into some of the other specifics of my situation but I'm not in th mood to write a manifesto today.
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Post by larrymoe on Jan 15, 2012 10:42:49 GMT -6
larrymoe, That letter is exactly how I felt about my last gig ( I just resigned). I did everything that you described along with a whole lot more. I also drove a bus all over the place picking kids up for summer weight training. The first week, I got five. The next week, I had one. So, I had to can it. I could he into some of the other specifics of my situation but I'm not in th mood to write a manifesto today. Were you the HC?
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Post by coachcb on Jan 15, 2012 13:33:51 GMT -6
larrymoe, That letter is exactly how I felt about my last gig ( I just resigned). I did everything that you described along with a whole lot more. I also drove a bus all over the place picking kids up for summer weight training. The first week, I got five. The next week, I had one. So, I had to can it. I could he into some of the other specifics of my situation but I'm not in th mood to write a manifesto today. Were you the HC? Yup. Two years. Like I said, I would prefer not to write another rambling rant about my last position. But, trust me when I say that I coach and teach in a "unique" environment.
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Post by carookie on Jan 15, 2012 15:09:46 GMT -6
Not verbatim but basically ours says,
Dear Parents, to play in a varsity game nest season your son needs 100 workouts. They earn these workouts by attending our weight room and completing our workout (either in weight training class or after school). If they play another school sport all practices and games count to that total.
We start counting workouts first day back in January; never had a problem it is our policy. Some days offer 2 workouts (in the weightroom after days on the track) We may have lost couple bag holders here or there but nothing too bad. All kids and parents know our policy
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Post by JVD on Jan 15, 2012 20:19:18 GMT -6
Of course, we didn't have X-box or the internet then. A MEN TO THAT!
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Post by coachcb on Jan 16, 2012 9:14:18 GMT -6
Here's how mine would (will go, some day) if I had more options:
Dear Parents of ____ Football Players,
The off-season is upon us and the staff here a ____ High cannot wait to build off of the success we had in the 2011 season. We are sending out this letter for several reasons. Firstly, we cannot stress enough how important participation in off-season conditioning is to the success of our football program. We must continually strive to improve as a football team throughout the winter, spring and summer. With that being said, attitude, effort and commitment to getting better are valued in this football program above everything, including athletic ability. Your son's playing time will be strongly influenced by how much dedication he displays during this off-season. As such, we have established a number system for keeping track of the players' commitment to ____ football.
1. There will be three weight training sessions offered each day. One in the morning, during weight training class period, and after school. A weight training workout a day will be worth one point. An athlete may not "double up" and may only receive one point each day. However, multiple workouts by an athlete will be noted by the staff.
2. We understand that many of the kids participate in winter, spring and summer sports. As such, practices for these sports will also be worth a point. Again, a player involved in a sport may only receive one point but participating in a weight training session or class will not go unnoticed.
3. We will have certain training sessions that are worth two points. These include morning throwing sessions and "iron-man" team building workouts. These will be noted in the schedule enclosed.
4. In order for a player to letter, they must receive 80% of the points in the winter and spring. The staff does not feel that this is asking too much of the athletes as there are many opportunities to pick up points. Along with this 80%, the players must also pick up 75% of the points in the summer. Again, the players must participate at these levels in order to letter.
We have also included an off-season workout schedule with this letter so that there is no confusion as to when and where our workouts will fall. We look forward to pressing on and improving the quality of our program. We strive to following the program's motto:
"Every Day and Every Way, We Get a Little Better!"
Thanks,
Coach _______)
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 16, 2012 11:42:41 GMT -6
missouri is a state that you can not tell the kids they need to be at so many workouts. Although schools do, to write it down and send it out to the parents would get you fired.
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Post by coachcb on Jan 16, 2012 11:53:51 GMT -6
missouri is a state that you can not tell the kids they need to be at so many workouts. Although schools do, to write it down and send it out to the parents would get you fired. Ahh, but this is the beauty of it. You're not telling them they can't play, you're telling them they can't letter. Let them throw a fit and just tell them that Lil Billy always has the opportunity to play but may not letter.
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Post by carookie on Jan 16, 2012 12:01:05 GMT -6
Yeah, you can still be on the team; but you aint getting on the field. I've had a number of kids be a part of the team knowing they wouldn't get on the field.
But if that is even too much, sit them for the first half of the season at least.
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Post by coachdean42 on Jan 18, 2012 15:24:35 GMT -6
Those of you that use the point system for lettering purposes, do you see that it helps serve as a type of motivation for today's youth? Also, have any of you ever tried incorporating other things to build points such as grades and community service?
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Post by coachcb on Jan 20, 2012 9:37:33 GMT -6
Those of you that use the point system for lettering purposes, do you see that it helps serve as a type of motivation for today's youth? Also, have any of you ever tried incorporating other things to build points such as grades and community service? I know of three programs that instituted a points system that is included in the lettering process. They have all had one degree of success with it or another. They have told me that it takes a few kids not lettering that first year to wake them up. It is basically a formal way of telling the players that they'd better get in the weight room if they want to play football. Coaches can't tell the kids specifically that they won't play if the don't work in the off-season but most can control the lettering requirements. One HC did end up starting a senior who hadn't made many weight room workouts. But, apparently, the kid came into camp ready to work and earned his starting spot. He still didn't letter, which pissed people off but it served as a reminder to the rest of the kids.
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