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Post by coachwilliams2 on Jan 5, 2012 13:16:13 GMT -6
Coaches,
We are going to try to be as 2 platoon as possible. However, we are not deep enough to fully be 2 platoon.
Do any of you platoon the majority of time and then have crossover segments built in to practice?
What do you cover with the crossover kids?
Does everyone crossover or just certain players?
Any help is appreciated. If you would share a schedule and ideas that would be great.
Thanks
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Post by sweep26 on Jan 5, 2012 14:13:21 GMT -6
I do hope that we get some experienced coaches to respond to your questions Coach. I hope to get some ideas from them also.
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Post by wingtoc on Jan 5, 2012 15:30:11 GMT -6
We have a 10 min Crossover indy period, where anyone that we think can help us on the other side of the ball goes over for 10 min indy period. After that we only get them during team. We feel if the kid is good enough athlete to crossover then we don't need as much time on the other side of the ball. Our best player is a starting DB but we use him an awful lot at WB in the wing-t. He is by far our best running back and this 10 min period followed by Team helps him out alot. Is it enough probably not but he's a good enough player to make us look real good on the offensive side of the ball.
We did the same thing for one of our DE that came over to Guard during the crossover period. We feel like it makes us a better more physical team, and we get our best players on the field when we need them.
Wing
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Jan 5, 2012 16:54:35 GMT -6
Wing,
How does that flow in to your practice schedule?
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wingtoc
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Post by wingtoc on Jan 5, 2012 17:28:35 GMT -6
Special Teams 15mins
Indy- 20 mins
Crossover 10 mins
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Post by wingtoc on Jan 5, 2012 17:29:54 GMT -6
We while the offense is in inside vs scouts the def is in outside vs scout then we switch. If the Def is in inside then our best player (CB) can come over can catch WB pass plays while we are in outside.
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Post by coachwilliams2 on Jan 5, 2012 18:24:54 GMT -6
What do you do with your JV?
Are they 2 platoon as well or do they flip flop/ alternate days etc?
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Post by wingtoc on Jan 5, 2012 18:38:51 GMT -6
We did it 2 ways.... Monday half were def and half we offense. That way they got both sides of the ball. And we did it where 1 week half were on offense and have on defense. That way we have 2 positions that they have to learn and we can plug them in where they fit best. Might not be the best plan but it's worked for us.
wing
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Post by jackedup on Jan 5, 2012 19:38:58 GMT -6
We tried the crossover period of about 10-15 minutes and it seemed to be redundant. So, we will work certain kids in during pre-practice. For example, our QB next year was my starting OLB this past season. Well, next season, during pre-practice he'll be with me working drills for 15 minutes and then will get reps during Def vs Scout group & team.
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Post by pacena on Jan 5, 2012 21:23:56 GMT -6
We have done this the past two seasons. We had 3 players play both ways two years ago, and 6 this past season. Our practices consist of all our players sophomores through seniors. The juniors and seniors play only one side of the ball except for a select few we call Swing players. Sophomores practice both an offensive and defensive position.
In a normal game week we will have Tuesday and Wednesday as work days since we have JV games on Mondays. On Tuesday, the Swing players participate in all defensive individual and group work, while the sophomores are practicing with the offense. We then have interior/perimeter and team session where the Swing players will participate both offensively and defensively whenever possible - sometimes an OL will also be a LB and need to participate in defensive perimeter. On Wednesday, the Swing players will participate in offensive practice while the sophomores are practicing with the defense.
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Post by piratefootball on Jan 6, 2012 21:13:44 GMT -6
We are primarily a 2 platoon team with just a few crossovers (2 crossovers 2 years ago and 3 this past year) Here is what we did and it works out great as those that are crossover players get what they need and those that are 1 way get tons of game plan specific training. we split our guys into old (sr's, jr's and sophs that are in the mix to play varsity) and young (rest of the sophomores and new guys to the program)
Monday we implement the game plan on both sides of the ball and split that practice 1/2 offense and 1/2 defense. Not much individual time as most the time is spent on specials and implementing the game plan.
Tuesday is old guy offense so young guys are on D. 1. Special teams 2. individual 3. implement (lots of teaching) 4. group against the best Defense we can put together (7 on 7 is Old D emphasis and interior is old O emphasis) 5. Flex period (we will use this to work on whatever we need to as a group or team (screen period, team pass against our best D we can put together, 1/2 line, etc...) 6. Team Goalline O emphasis for 1/2 time and D emphasis for 1/2 time (go against best possible defense we can put together (others go to the other side of the field and run our O against our D) 7. Team with old on O 8. Team with old on D (we have 1 way WR's and the starting QB go through route concepts off to the side while we go through Team with our young guys) ... this session is great for us as we get to work our young guys and our old OL actually coach up the young guys between plays and the 1 way skill guys work our game plan passing game. Session 4 is the only time we have conflict with our crossover guys as our best RB is often an LB or safety so I script the pays I want to see our TB run at the start (about 4-5 plays) and then he goes to 7 on 7.
Wed is the same schedule but old guys are on D.
Hope this makes sense as we love this practice schedule and we think we get tons of reps and work the game plan like crazy. Our young guys are also getting lots of reps and there is very little standing around which could be tough as we have a squad of roughly 100 kids. Can easily elaborate if I did not explain something well enough.
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Post by holmesbend on Jan 8, 2012 10:38:14 GMT -6
We are primarily a 2 platoon team with just a few crossovers (2 crossovers 2 years ago and 3 this past year) Here is what we did and it works out great as those that are crossover players get what they need and those that are 1 way get tons of game plan specific training. we split our guys into old (sr's, jr's and sophs that are in the mix to play varsity) and young (rest of the sophomores and new guys to the program) Monday we implement the game plan on both sides of the ball and split that practice 1/2 offense and 1/2 defense. Not much individual time as most the time is spent on specials and implementing the game plan. Tuesday is old guy offense so young guys are on D. 1. Special teams 2. individual 3. implement (lots of teaching) 4. group against the best Defense we can put together (7 on 7 is Old D emphasis and interior is old O emphasis) 5. Flex period (we will use this to work on whatever we need to as a group or team (screen period, team pass against our best D we can put together, 1/2 line, etc...) 6. Team Goalline O emphasis for 1/2 time and D emphasis for 1/2 time (go against best possible defense we can put together (others go to the other side of the field and run our O against our D) 7. Team with old on O 8. Team with old on D (we have 1 way WR's and the starting QB go through route concepts off to the side while we go through Team with our young guys) ... this session is great for us as we get to work our young guys and our old OL actually coach up the young guys between plays and the 1 way skill guys work our game plan passing game. Session 4 is the only time we have conflict with our crossover guys as our best RB is often an LB or safety so I script the pays I want to see our TB run at the start (about 4-5 plays) and then he goes to 7 on 7. Wed is the same schedule but old guys are on D. Hope this makes sense as we love this practice schedule and we think we get tons of reps and work the game plan like crazy. Our young guys are also getting lots of reps and there is very little standing around which could be tough as we have a squad of roughly 100 kids. Can easily elaborate if I did not explain something well enough. This is exactly what we did this year and we are a county school of a little over 700 kids with 45 on the team 9-12. We don't two platoon, but we split our guys up into basically an old/varsity group of mainly juniors/seniors and a few sophomores. The young group was obviously frosh and those sophomores who were JV only. We finished 6-5 this year and our JV team somehow, someway went 6-1. I truly believe that a great deal of our success this year came from this type of practice schedule. This way of practicing gets so many more kids involved and getting reps. We also just coached one side of the ball. |
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