mhs99
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Post by mhs99 on Dec 19, 2011 19:37:36 GMT -6
I was interested to see what types of offenses and defenses were run by teams playing for state titles. Wanted to see if there was a trend or if it is varied around the country. You can name the state if you want and add different divisions. In Massachusetts, from what I saw in Eastern Massachusetts
D1- I and 4-3
1A- Spread (pass 1st) and 4-4
D2- Spread (pass 1st) and 4-3
2A- Spread (even) and 3-3
D3- Multiple and 5-2
3A- Flexbone and 4-4
D4- I and 4-4
4A- Power I (2-tight) and 5-3
5- Spread and 4-3
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smu92
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Post by smu92 on Dec 20, 2011 10:00:04 GMT -6
6A Oklahoma - Spread (lots of 11 personnel), Odd Stack Defense
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Post by coachhart on Dec 20, 2011 10:10:25 GMT -6
VA AAA D5 - I and 4-3 primarily
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Post by coachcb on Dec 20, 2011 10:14:00 GMT -6
AA: Wing T, 3-3 sack
A: "Spread" 4-3
B:?
C: Pistol Wild Bunch, 3-4.
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Post by easye17 on Dec 20, 2011 13:09:53 GMT -6
PA
AAAA - Multiple
AAA - I
Not sure on D
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Post by hollyhood27 on Dec 20, 2011 13:18:26 GMT -6
Florida
1a: I and 3-3-5
2a Tony Franklin. Even front
3a: Wing T, 3-4
4a: Pistol (ran power 70% of the game) ( i think they were an odd front)
5a. I (just gave it to Duke Johnson) and an even front
6a: multiple. mostly I and spread formations (ran the ball a ton). 3-4 if i remember correctly
7a: spread to run and even front
8a: Air raid type O, and 3-4
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 20, 2011 13:56:48 GMT -6
Delaware-
D1 - MTown (Pro I/spread/4-2) beat Newark (Spread/Odd front (I believe))
D2 - Indian River (Spread/4-2) vs Caravel (Wing-t/Even front?)
Hopefully some others can elaborate
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 20, 2011 15:21:20 GMT -6
Minnesota
1A=smallest
5A=biggest
9=9man
9: Spread
1A: 2TE I backs & 40 defense
2A: 2TE I backs & 40 defense
3A: Splitback veer
4A: Spread
5A: Multiple Wing-T
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Post by veerbone on Dec 20, 2011 15:25:08 GMT -6
Louisiana
1A: Multiple/3-3-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5
2A: Split Back Veer/4-2-5 vs. Spread/50
3A: Pro-Style/50 vs. Multiple/50 Double Eagle
4A: Multiple Gun/4-2-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5
5A: Wing-T/4-2-5 vs. I-Veer/Multiple D
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Post by coachd5085 on Dec 20, 2011 16:14:36 GMT -6
Louisiana 1A: Multiple/3-3-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5 2A: Split Back Veer/4-2-5 vs. Spread/50 3A: Pro-Style/50 vs. Multiple/50 Double Eagle 4A: Multiple Gun/4-2-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5 5A: Wing-T/4-2-5 vs. I-Veer/Multiple D Curtis is no longer basing out of a 50? Was the alignment you saw just an adjustment to what Winnfield was doing? |
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Post by mariner42 on Dec 20, 2011 16:41:02 GMT -6
California state game summary:
Have an OL/DL that's bigger and skilled guys that are faster. Result: SoCal 4-1 with the only W being De La Salle smacking around a spread team. NorCal teams were consistently undersized at the OL/DL and out-matched in terms of speed.
As I recall the matchups went like this, winners bolded
Open: SBV/4-3/4-4 vs Spread 4-4
D-I: DW/3-3 vs 10 personnel UC/4-4/4-3
D-II: Pro IZ/OZ/3-3 vs Spread/4-4
D-III: 'Pro'/4-4 vs Spread/4-4
D-IIII: 2 back UC/3-4 vs Spread/4-4
Lotta WRs (although most of them were just decoys), lotta 4 man lines that adjust to single/2 back by going 2/1 high.
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Post by jgordon1 on Dec 20, 2011 20:50:01 GMT -6
I was interested to see what types of offenses and defenses were run by teams playing for state titles. Wanted to see if there was a trend or if it is varied around the country. You can name the state if you want and add different divisions. In Massachusetts, from what I saw in Eastern Massachusetts D1- I and 4-3 1A- Spread (pass 1st) and 4-4 D2- Spread (pass 1st) and 4-3 2A- Spread (even) and 3-3 D3- Multiple and 5-2 3A- Flexbone and 4-4 D4- I and 4-4 4A- Power I (2-tight) and 5-3 5- Spread and 4-3 I am from MA...who was the flexbone team? |
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 20, 2011 21:10:30 GMT -6
Hard to compare, one state's DI is another state's AAAA
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2011 21:26:25 GMT -6
PA AAAA - Multiple AAA - I Not sure on D Mostly 4-3 |
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Post by julien on Dec 21, 2011 0:17:47 GMT -6
AA: Wing T, 3-3 sack A: "Spread" 4-3 B:? C: Pistol Wild Bunch, 3-4. Coach, where are you from? What does the letter mean? I am interested in the Pistol Wild Bunch team. Do you know more about them? |
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Post by unc31 on Dec 21, 2011 7:55:34 GMT -6
In NC the ones I know of for sure or saw personally: Offense
4AA Greensboro Page- Spread-Saw the game
4A Scotland Co.- Spread and some I formation, only saw clips
3A Havelock-Spread
3AA Northern Guilford-Spread- Only saw clips, they may do other things as well
2A-Tarboro-T Formation
2AA- West Stokes- Not sure but I think they are spread. Saw some clips
1AA- Swain County- Split Back veer- saw the game
1A- Murphy- Wing t- Under Center and Shotgun-saw the game
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erat76
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Post by erat76 on Dec 21, 2011 8:14:44 GMT -6
WV
AAA - Spread & Odd Stack- Heavy QB running team, they sometimes get into Wing T sets.
AA - Wing T & 4-4 but were in a lot of 6-2 looks with the OLB walked up.
A - Spread Option & 4-4 - QB run based.
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Post by veerbone on Dec 21, 2011 9:37:22 GMT -6
Louisiana 1A: Multiple/3-3-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5 2A: Split Back Veer/4-2-5 vs. Spread/50 3A: Pro-Style/50 vs. Multiple/50 Double Eagle 4A: Multiple Gun/4-2-5 vs. Spread/4-2-5 5A: Wing-T/4-2-5 vs. I-Veer/Multiple D Curtis is no longer basing out of a 50? Was the alignment you saw just an adjustment to what Winnfield was doing? They still base out of 50, but I guess because Winnfield is spread they ran a 4 man front most of the game. |
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Post by coachhart on Dec 21, 2011 10:20:31 GMT -6
julien - each state does things a bit differently in how they label each division. Here in Virginia, AAA Division 6 is the largest, followed by AAA D5, AA D4, AA D3, A D2, and A D1. In Michigan, It's just divisions 1-8, with 1 being the largest classification and 8 being the smallest. Other places do A, B, C, D with A being the largest and D the smallest. All in the semantics, really.
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Post by sdfbcoach on Dec 21, 2011 11:47:24 GMT -6
SD: The big class champ was no-huddle spread and 4-3 cover 2 the runner-up was no-huddle spread and 3-4 multiple coverages. I dont know for sure about the smaller classes but most of them run some variation of the wing-t or dbl slot.
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Post by coachcb on Dec 21, 2011 12:08:12 GMT -6
AA: Wing T, 3-3 sack A: "Spread" 4-3 B:? C: Pistol Wild Bunch, 3-4. Coach, where are you from? What does the letter mean? I am interested in the Pistol Wild Bunch team. Do you know more about them? Those are the classifications here in MT. AA is the largest, C is the smallest with 6 and 8 man teams. I have no idea how to even classify what the 6-man champ ran so I didn't put it up. Fairview won the state title running the 8-man Pistol version of the Wild-Bunch. It's different from the 11-man version in a few ways but not by much. |
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Post by dc207 on Dec 21, 2011 16:02:19 GMT -6
Delaware- D1 - MTown (Pro I/spread/4-2) beat Newark (Spread/Odd front (I believe)) D2 - Indian River (Spread/4-2) vs Caravel (Wing-t/Even front?) Hopefully some others can elaborate Have you seen the kid from IR? They'd probably be great no matter what they ran with him! (Not being sarcastic. He's just sick.) |
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mhs99
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Post by mhs99 on Dec 21, 2011 19:42:42 GMT -6
Jgordon...It wa Bourne in flexbone, a lot of jet sweep and belly
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Dec 21, 2011 21:13:07 GMT -6
Delaware- D1 - MTown (Pro I/spread/4-2) beat Newark (Spread/Odd front (I believe)) D2 - Indian River (Spread/4-2) vs Caravel (Wing-t/Even front?) Hopefully some others can elaborate Have you seen the kid from IR? They'd probably be great no matter what they ran with him! (Not being sarcastic. He's just sick.) Yeah we scrimmaged them in August- heck of a safety too...playing baseball at South Carolina unless he gets drafted high... |
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Dec 25, 2011 21:18:05 GMT -6
smu92, i thought union ran a 4-3?
every class championed zoned blocked everything, inside/outside, ctr trey, a little trap, some used a wham back some not, even if they did throw a lot during the season they ran it down peoples throat in the playoffs
def seemed to be even fronts with odd/zone blitz on passing downs
bottom line was every state champ in oklahoma played tough azz defense and controled the clock by running it and taking shots off of playaction with a few screens
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Post by lionhart on Dec 26, 2011 8:58:04 GMT -6
Multiple I, 4-4
Wing-t, 4-4
Multiple I, 4-3
Multiple, Pro I, 3-4
Pistol, 4-3
Many teams in our area do not have a specific "system" on offense. most are what i would call multiple, meaning 21, 11, 22 personnel. mix in some gun and some double tite stuff. a few teams are strictly wing-t, and a few more are 100% spread. but for most teams its hard to nail down a specific type of O.
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Post by lochness on Dec 30, 2011 10:54:33 GMT -6
In our state:
Straight T / 3-4 beat Wing T / 3-3
Wing T / 4-4 beat Spread / 4-3
Spread Gun (gap blocking) / 4-4 beat Spread Gun (zone) / 4-4
Double Wing / 3-4 beat Wing-T /4-3
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Post by gdoggwr on Jan 6, 2012 10:09:19 GMT -6
In Kansas CLASS 6A: Olathe-South - Wing-T and a version of the 3-4 beat a flexbone/4-3 team CLASS 5A: Hutchinson - Flexbone, and 4-3 (I think) beat a spread/? team CLASS 4A: Rose Hill - (No Idea) beat a multiple I run first team CLASS 3A: Conway Springs - Single Wing, don't know the defense CLASS 2-1A: Centralia/Wetmore - Mulitple I (used to be anyway), don't know on D 8-MAN I: Madison/Hamilton -  8-MAN II: Kensington-Thunder Ridge - ? |
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