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Post by 42falcon on Dec 13, 2011 10:32:22 GMT -6
Ok really are we all that hung up on football Dad's?
Can someone enlighten me?
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Post by coachcb on Dec 13, 2011 10:42:06 GMT -6
Ok really are we all that hung up on football Dad's? Can someone enlighten me? Yeah, I don't get that either. I have only had a playbook issue with a dad once and it was because he handed me a binder filled with Xs and Os. "This is my own stuff and will help you utilize my son better." I laughed, walked away and threw it in the nearest trash can. I got into a little trouble for it but it was well worth it.
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Post by coachks on Dec 13, 2011 11:55:00 GMT -6
Last year I began giving my position group cheat sheets on either Wednesday or Thursday. Just one page with one or two pictures and maybe 3 bullet points. Something you could look at in about 30 seconds.
I told them to look at before the walk-through on Thursday while they get changed. After Thursday practice, I told them to take their sheets, walk over to their school locker once they are changed and hang it from the inside of their locker. Just give it a glance between classes. Then take a quick look at it while you get dressed for the game.
There was notable improvement in their ability to spit information back at me if I asked them a question. It helped a little bit in the confidence department in terms of knowing their alignment/assignment. A few kids who were struggling to pick things up got up to speed.
The sheets took me about 3 minutes to make, 2 minutes to make copies, and a 2 or 3 minutes to pass out.
It wasn't a god-send or anything like that. But for about 10 minutes a week it was a good return on investment. The players took away as much from the cheat sheets as they did from the Monday scout meetings.
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Post by bccarnes on Dec 14, 2011 13:53:19 GMT -6
Our guys can look at things on Hudl. Like a bunch of other said, you could figure out our playbook by watching our games.
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Post by Coach Huey on Dec 14, 2011 21:12:36 GMT -6
we make our playbook into a hudl presentation. one or two slides with diagrams, then cutups of the plays, complete with notes on them.
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Post by newballcoach on Dec 14, 2011 21:42:46 GMT -6
Before we got Hudl I made our defensive playbook on Powerpoint. Not a whole lot of funds to print out a playbook for everyone, plus, as some said, they rarely look at it or lose it. So I just emailed the Powerpoint to all the players to they at least had it on their computer. If they wanted to print it out, fine with me. Coach I did something similar this year but I placed it on the server at school so the students could access it from a school computer at anytime. I also burned cd's and handed them out. I did it 2 weeks before spring practice (installed a new offence) and told them they needed to be able to rep it at spring camp. That went well, and they had them to look over for the summer. My issue here was formatting, and I couldn't put on all the info that I wanted. I ended up giving the QB more printed material so he would know what I wanted him to do. I liked it, it worked well
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Post by julien on Dec 15, 2011 0:47:52 GMT -6
I've been on both side...
Now, I'd only give playbook to coaches and QB.
Cheat sheets by position i.e: OL would have blocking rules
We don't have editing video program so I do my playbook/cheat sheet on .ppt
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Post by reevekyle on Dec 15, 2011 5:40:34 GMT -6
3rd year as DC. First 2 years I gave out a playbook, this past year I did not. Didn't see enough of a difference throughout the year to ever make a playbook again. Players also said they didn't feel like they "needed" one.
Now with that being said I have a 180+ page keynote presentation that I pull from during team meetings so I guess you could call that my playbook.
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Post by Coach Unk on Dec 15, 2011 9:14:35 GMT -6
I have my own that I piece together but most times you run the plays over and over. Players tend to learn better that way.
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Post by treyjames on Jan 11, 2012 10:42:07 GMT -6
We use hudl, but I want to get something down on paper and maybe ppt. What is the best way to go about this? Is there a certain website or template most use, or is it better to just get on ppt and do it there? Thanks
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 11, 2012 11:23:41 GMT -6
We always joke with the kids that they are allowed an opinion and that they can always make suggestions as long as they are filed in the suggestion box: . . Most of the kids understand what this means. Haven't had a parent try anything as far as playbook or X's and O's go. Have a dad who thinks his kid should catch 100 balls but we are a zone/power/counter team, so he is pissed every year. Only 1 more year of him complaining left!
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Post by cqmiller on Jan 11, 2012 11:31:51 GMT -6
But honestly...
I do not hand out playbooks because if I tried to draw up just our Inside zone play vs. the fronts we would could see it would be about 30 pages long just for 1 play. It is impossible for you to make a playbook that would show every kid what to do vs. every defense.
I do have a copy of the "Playbook" sitting on my desk in a binder. Each page is in a sheet protector and the kids can come in and look at it in the office and we can talk about it and go through it together, but it only has the formations, motions, and rules for each play. We go over the rules all offseason and throughout 2-a-days. Once the rules for each of our base plays have been drilled into their heads, we will have to draw up what the rules look like against that opponent that week.
When I was in high school our coach gave us a playbook one year, and I ended up picking up about 2/3 of them off the floor in the locker room or the halls of school within a week. (I was a captain and didn't want opponents or our HC to find them). Any kid that really wants one will make one as he learns his plays and stuff. He can organize his notes from meetings or go home after practice and write down plays they ran that day. We encourage that sort of thing with our kids.
Luckily I have all my players in a weight training class and according to district policy participation can only be at most 30% of a final grade. There has to be an academic portion of their grade. My "academic" portion is for the kids to make their own playbooks. Offense this semester, defense next semester (starts next week). Then when I have them next year they will have to expand their basic playbook and add more plays/formations/etc...
Some of the kids have mentioned how hard it is to organize all the info that goes into just running a basic play. I think it is helping them learn a ton.
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Post by blb on Jan 11, 2012 11:38:32 GMT -6
Have a dad who thinks his kid should catch 100 balls but we are a zone/power/counter team, so he is {censored} every year. Only 1 more year of him complaining left! Don't worry, there'll be somebody to take his place.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Jan 12, 2012 1:37:07 GMT -6
DO NOT GIVE PLAYBOOKS TO YOUR PLAYERS!...2. You run the risk of opponents seeing it (yes, I've heard of players giving it to the other team). We found a playbook from one of our opponents just laying out in front of their HS when we arrived for a game. Case in point: We had a kid transfer from a nearby school and a week in he hands us his former school's playbook. That school happened to be a yearly opponent.
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Post by fantom on Jan 12, 2012 9:13:49 GMT -6
DO NOT GIVE PLAYBOOKS TO YOUR PLAYERS!...2. You run the risk of opponents seeing it (yes, I've heard of players giving it to the other team). We found a playbook from one of our opponents just laying out in front of their HS when we arrived for a game. Case in point: We had a kid transfer from a nearby school and a week in he hands us his former school's playbook. That school happened to be a yearly opponent. Get anything out of it that you didn't already know?
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Post by coachmoore42 on Jan 12, 2012 17:57:16 GMT -6
Case in point: We had a kid transfer from a nearby school and a week in he hands us his former school's playbook. That school happened to be a yearly opponent. Get anything out of it that you didn't already know? Yeah, some good quotes. LOL
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Post by sdfbcoach on Jan 12, 2012 19:43:55 GMT -6
we havent handed out a playbook in about 7 ir 8 years. Our QB's get one and if someone wants to review some plays we will give them a copy of those. Otherwise, we are on Hudl so we use that to teach them to our players. I just think it becomes to overwhelming for our players to look at everything and try to figure it out on their own.
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Post by coachmitts on Jan 15, 2012 13:18:30 GMT -6
We do not hand out playbooks. We install 50% of our stuff during our camp. The rest we install throughout the year. When we do, we break it down while in indis, then we run it to death while in team. For defense, we run a very easy 3-4 and a basic cover 2 behind it. There are some stunts we run but most is installed during camp. We dont want to confuse them to much. Keeping it simple makes them play alot better.
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