|
|
Post by coachkaseysmith on Nov 28, 2011 17:31:57 GMT -6
Coaches,
Wanted to get your take on this situation and if any of you have faced/overcome it. At my previous school, we had a strange scenario of kids not wanting to play varsity football as sophomores. These kids were the standouts of their freshman squads and were targeted by the staff early.
As a rule, I won't pull up a kid if he isn't going to see significant playing time, unless I have to (I had to pull up a kid to be a back up QB this year and I hated doing it but had no other choice).
Have any of you had to deal with kids not wanting to play up? When I was a player, being on varsity was all we cared about. Seems like times have changed a little bit.
What have you guys done to combat this?
|
|
|
|
Post by spos21ram on Nov 28, 2011 17:53:52 GMT -6
Unless they are getting significant playing time they should be playing JV along with Varsity. I hope that Sophomore QB you brought up also plays JV. If not then he is pretty much practicing all year and never getting any game experience.
But to answer your question, it's very rare to see kids not wanting to play up. If that's the case they probably aren't that interested in football and it may be hard to keep them motivated. If they are that good to start on Varsity then you need to figure out a way to talk him into being excited for the move up.
|
|
|
|
Post by carookie on Nov 28, 2011 19:19:22 GMT -6
Had it happen a couple times. In most they just want to come out and play football without the extra commitment of being a varsity athlete. Moreover, they enjoy being a big fish in the smaller pond JV football.
Usually, these kids quit before the start of their junior year; although I did have one kid do this once and turnout to be an all state nose tackle.
|
|
|
|
Post by ajreaper on Nov 28, 2011 22:09:55 GMT -6
some prefer being a stud on JV rather then a journeyman on varsity- JV feeds the ego while varsity ball is a gut check weekly.
|
|
|
|
Post by jgordon1 on Nov 29, 2011 9:42:37 GMT -6
Had it happen a couple times. In most they just want to come out and play football without the extra commitment of being a varsity athlete. Moreover, they enjoy being a big fish in the smaller pond JV football. Usually, these kids quit before the start of their junior year; although I did have one kid do this once and turnout to be an all state nose tackle. This happened to us some too...I tell the JV coaches that if things are equal play the soph but do what you can to win...I know most don't really care if JV win but I do..winning is winning...losing breeds more losing |
|
|
|
Post by coachorr on Nov 29, 2011 10:52:35 GMT -6
Unless they are getting significant playing time they should be playing JV along with Varsity. I hope that Sophomore QB you brought up also plays JV. If not then he is pretty much practicing all year and never getting any game experience. But to answer your question, it's very rare to see kids not wanting to play up. If that's the case they probably aren't that interested in football and it may be hard to keep them motivated. If they are that good to start on Varsity then you need to figure out a way to talk him into being excited for the move up. Excellent post. I would bet that it is a playing time issue. Word gets out. At the program I am at, we have a prevelance of kids not wanting to play as juniors. WTF? I wouldn't play them as seniors and that would take care of that. |
|
|
|
Post by fantom on Nov 29, 2011 11:00:55 GMT -6
Had it happen a couple times. In most they just want to come out and play football without the extra commitment of being a varsity athlete. Moreover, they enjoy being a big fish in the smaller pond JV football. Usually, these kids quit before the start of their junior year; although I did have one kid do this once and turnout to be an all state nose tackle. We've had a couple of JV kids who didn't want to move up for the playoffs. One flat-out quit then his mom was indignant that he didn't get a state championship ring. Without fail, these kids never pan out on the varsity in the long run. |
|
|
|
Post by downdownkick on Nov 29, 2011 13:32:47 GMT -6
A few years ago I had 3-4 kids (juniors) who were really proud of being "JV all-stars" as they called it. I think it was a combination of A)being embarrassed for not being varsity and B) our JV team was AWESOME that year, lol.
So they might be doing it to save face somehow. If not, I think you gotta explain to them that they're letting their team down and wasting their gifts.
|
|
flingt
Junior Member
"We don't care how big or strong our opponents are as long as they're human.?
Posts: 311
|
Post by flingt on Nov 30, 2011 10:22:31 GMT -6
I am curious to know how many of you have coached your son. I asked my son about this last year and he told me that a lot of guys don't like playing up because they like playing with their friends, or the class in question (9th or 10th grade) has had success and the varsity has not and they don't want to leave success to be a part of losing.
It's very eye opening when you can have the heart beat of the team living right in your own house.
|
|
bighit65
Junior Member
Make a statement without saying a word.
Posts: 397
|
Post by bighit65 on Dec 1, 2011 21:45:51 GMT -6
I agree that kids shouldn't be brought up to be a body. I am always amazed to hear coaches complain when kids don't want to go up to be backups. "But they're on varsity! Why wouldn't they want to go up?!" No crap kids are selfish about playing time. Why go through all the crap practices and two -a -days if you're not going to get any PT?
|
|
|
|
Post by olcoach53 on Dec 2, 2011 9:39:56 GMT -6
If a kid is ready he is ready. We dont have a true JV team, just sophomores, but we always dress freshman for that. We usually bring up 3-4 freshman to practice with the varsity and dress during playoffs. We had a freshman actually start at FS a few years ago for the last two games because we had a ton of injuries and he was the next best player to play.
|
|
|
|
Post by saintrad on Dec 11, 2011 14:48:12 GMT -6
ran into that for the first time when I moved to this school district back in 2007. Our kids were content waiting for the guys ahead of them to leave and not compete against them. It was "so and so's" spot. When I played and everywhere else that I have coached, I had never run into this issue before. It still persists and I reall y do not know how to fix that.
|
|
