|
Post by brophy on Sept 3, 2007 7:06:30 GMT -6
WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY INGREDIENTS TO ACCOMPLISHING RAPID U-TURNS IN A PROGRAM'S SUCCESS?
There is lots of knowledge on this site, so why not cut to the chase and solicit common denominators in factors (that may or may not have anything to do with coaching) that are prerequisites to success on the field.
Going beyond scheme (although it is important), Big-Picture, immediate, tangible qualities that directly contribute to turning a loser into a winner.
Even the details.....its not enough to say, "A supportive administration"......what specifically do you need from them? What kind of environment (specifically) does a coach need to have, in order to bring about a foundation of sustainable successful change?
You hear the stories all the time, but separating fact from fiction of Nicolodean cause-effects ("the guy just wins"...."he just brought in the double-flex spinner option and thats all they needed"......"the kids started lifting weights"....) is what is needed for us to glean any useful information we can use.
|
|
|
Post by brophy on Sept 3, 2007 7:15:31 GMT -6
My guess (because I am still trying to figure this equation out.....)
1) One man isn't an island - The HC needs to bring in at least two trusted men that can help get things done and "preach his gospel" of how things are to be done. Hard to get people moving with only one guy on the same page. The head coach has to be seen as the trigger-puller and making things happen, but he cannot be everywhere at once. Having competent assistants (at least two) that oversee the weight room, coordinate game day activities (meals, coach communication, administrative fees, etc) as well as serve as spokespersons for the program in the community and the state. The ability to bring in additional support (clinicians, speakers, college contacts) to intruct kids, instruct coaches, film exchange, community leaders to drum up support.
2) Administration that believes in the Student-Athlete - House divided cannot stand. A principal that wants to see all athletic programs succeed equally, will stand up for tough issues (like player safety, grounds & maintenance, parent conflicts).Part of the 'administrative support' would involve hiring / dismissing any faculty the HC did not want on staff. Being held hostage by staff-leftovers and baggage is a sure way to continue the losing mentality. I believe you need more than a working relationship with the administration for this to work. Whether you influence / persuade the brass to shine onto you, or that's just how they are, having administration tie THEIR success along with yours goes a long way in determining how influencial your program will be regarded in the state.
3) Methodology / Structure - not Bear Bryant, but a HC with answers to deal with situations. From practice formats, implemenation, structure, player conduct guidelines / parent guidelines....There is a method and end-product for every decision, and they all stem from the answer "best for the program" (not necessarily 'best for wins'). The head coach has to have a bullet-proof plan for handling every situation, outlined in a manner that there should be little confusion on what will happen. Clear expectations of what is acceptable and what is not need to be crystal clear by assistants (and demonstrated), which in turn will leave little to know room for confusion with players and parents.
4) Players READY for change / believing - Players (with a degree of athletic ability) believing in the nature of change and what it takes to get there (doing something different, of course are required.........because THEY are the ones that are making it happen. Convincing (or getting rid of) Seniors to get on board (or at least not spoil the fruit of the freshmen) and making the dream of success a tangible reality. Creating a larger than wins attitude through community service, team-building, and positive peer culture generally paves the way to a consistent performance on Friday night. The snowball effect of this is a perpetuating cycle of people buying in / investing into the school (players see people they don't know donating equipment / jerseys....influences them to believe that there is something BIGGER they are playing for than themselves). 5) Community involvement - the degree of which remains unknown, but some type of proprietary support ( team meals, parent GridIron Clubs, Booster Clubs, church support, etc) needs to be won over to become the nuturing agent for the TEAM. When your players see the program being talked about in a positive light, they interpret it as folks talking that way about THEM. More people interested in the program means more $$ in boosters, more in attendance, and more people looking out for your kids when they are not on the practice field.
|
|
|
Post by groundchuck on Sept 3, 2007 7:56:14 GMT -6
1. Culture: Create a culture where football and athletics and success in EVERYTHING is important. This includes academics too. Football has to be something kids want to be a part of.
2. Staff: You have to have good coaches at the varsity, under-levels, and MS/JH on down.
3. Year-round work: Kids have to committ to getting better. Anyone not in-season needs to be committed to the wt room. Anyone who is in season needs to concentrate on that sport but also find time to get into the wt room. It helps to have coaches in the other sports on the same page when it comes to S & C. Often times this "unification" process has to start with the AD being on board too.
4. Youth Programs: Get kids out, hyped on your program, taught fundamentals, have fun, keep'm out.
5. High Expectations: You have to raise the bar from where the program is and never allow yourself, the staff, or the kids to sell themselves short. BUT the expectations need to also be realistic. Rome was not built in a day, but it was built through constant hard work, dedication, etc.
Now the 1-2 year turnarounds happen but often times aside from the above 5 items I listed you also have to have some studs coming through..or at least a couple classes of good kids. Talent helps.
|
|
|
Post by brophy on Sept 3, 2007 8:48:33 GMT -6
we're talking the usual, February / April hire after (another) disappointing season from last Fall.
I know crl has some thoughts on this.....
What can you do in the 5 month period of April - September to turn your program around?
I agree, but how does getting 250, 9 - 12 year olds out have to do with winning at the Varsity this year?
|
|
|
Post by davecisar on Sept 3, 2007 9:02:50 GMT -6
Not sure how much of this could be applied to HS teams, but have headed up two 180 degree turnarounds at the youth level. Far more complex in HS football, but you may be able to use an idea or two: 1) Complete brutal honest analysis of why failure is occuring. No sacred cows including capabilities of head coach and the coaching staff, with the exception of course of playing within the rules. 1a) Develop critical success factors and prioritize all your activities to them. Figure out ways to ignore, eliminate or outsurce time wasting activites that have little to nothing to do with your critical success factors. 2) Open mindedness to new ideas, concepts, methodologies to address said problem. Outside help from a person that has won consistently in variety of situations, hopefully in similar situation. Admitted we didnt have the answers and admitted we only won when we had the best talent. Talk to guys Like Mark Fisher at Louisa in Virginia, o-fer forever before he gets there 20 + years of failure, in just 3 years hes playing for a State Title. 3) Thorough "no sacred cow" analysis of my usual ways of doing things versus the needs of the turnaround program and the kids and time committments we typically got. 4) Strong confident unwavering belief by HC in direction based on thorough analysis of problem and thoroghly researched logical and easily communicated solution. Everyone, from the stakeholders in the community down to the waterboy understood our goals, why we were doing what we were doing and what it was going to take to get there. Everyone must know the vision and the plan and it must be able to easily flow out of everyones mouth. Like a company or personal mission statement.( First Things First by Covey is a Great book to help you develop this) Did they think we were crazy the first time we said we were going to be: the "Model that all Youth teams in the Nation want to emulate, being "the team" everyone wants to play for. Being the dominant team in our league and state while being known for superior fundamentals and overt sportsmanship. Glorifying God through our play and actions and retaining 90% + of our players. They thought we were nuts, but we repeated it often and lived it. You know what they say about repeating something often enough. LOL 5) 2-3 trusted, committed and loyal staff members. Dont care how much DI ball they played or how many TDs they scored "back n the day" we need guys that can follow directions, communicate the vision and follow the plan. If you arent on board, go elsewhere. 6) Pick Scheme that fits the brutally honest evaluation of the kids talents and numbers compared to your competition. Not an offense or defense that relys on a wish list of kids that rarely if ever show up or fit your previous team. Not choosing a system that initially pleases the kids, parents or the egos of the coaches (style over substance be banned). We changed everything from offense, defense, special teams, practice methodology, scrimmaging, conditioning, warm ups to pre-game to how we did water breaks. We studied how the most successful teams in the country, not just in our area did things and copied a little from each and made modifications where it made sense to fit our kids. We looked for overachieving teams to emulate that consistently won. Didnt have time to sift through what everyone in the planet was doing to find out the logic if it worked and didnt, we went to those that won consistently with average or less talent. 7) None of "we do it this way because weve always done it this way" answers. Must have logical answer to why we do everything attatched to our end goal statement. 8) Extrememly high expectations, perfection required during the most minute of details. We set the bar very high evn though both were loser programs. We are going to win now, here is why it will work and this is what you need to do to make it work. It ls your choice players. 9) Having fun, we incorporate fun into our practices to condition, build numbers and build team unity. 10) Put our kids in positions where they could have some successes, no matter how bad we were. ( Double team blocks, crab blocks etc) 11) Character building as part of program. We did daily partner questions, weekly grade reports, community service projects and practiced over the top sportsmanship that set us far apart from all others. A true unique and new indentity. 12) Confidence. Internally not sure it was going to work. Externally: quiet, unwavering, calm confidence. NEver hit the panic button, talked about our success in past terms. Kids knew we as coaches expected them to win, no big celebrations on TDs, wins, championships etc, we expected it ( externally LOL) 13) Success breeds success and downward spirals are contagious too. We had to make wholesale changes in 2001, otherwise the program wouldnt even exist today. 14) Commitment to coaching education and excellence.
Case in point: A local HS program I know very well, has a huge problem with numbers. For the last 6-10 years have suited up just 22-26 kids on varsity in a school of 1700 kids. Opposition often suits over 100. Team "A" has just 60 kids in the program. Open enrollment, lots of kids in the area go to other schools and excell. ZERO effort, absolutely zero effort by HC to get involved with the youth kids ( 1st-8th grade) to develop relationships etc in football. These coaches spent all their time developing Xs and Os when their main problem isnt Xs and Os, it's numbers. They were like a Wild West Fort getting ready to defend itself from an incoming Indian attack that sepnt all its time making sure they had the cleanest restrooms instead of scouting the enemy, stockpiling ammo and cleaning thier weapons. According to my meeting with Supt of Schools and city AD for all Public schools in the area, nothing illegal or immoral about recruiting" kids. Asked the new HC in football at "A" what his plan for getting more kids out was, said " I dont have one". This school that often won 3-4 games now with the new guy, as I predicted won 1 last year and will not win a game in the next several years. On the other hand the next HS over has a HC comes to all our kids basketball games on Saturday early am, knows the parents and players by first name. His asst does free camps for us and our kids go play bball for him. Our kids are ball boys for him on rotating basis. They won back to back State BBall titles, first in school history. Moral of story, understand why you are losing, set plan in place to correct it using realistic real world priorities. This guy can be the greatest X and O guy since Bill Walsh and it wont matter one hill of beans because he has set very silly priorities. His record in 5 years will be 1-49.
|
|
|
Post by wingtol on Sept 3, 2007 10:11:11 GMT -6
When our head coach was hired the team was 0-20 the two years before he got there. Went 1-8 his first year 6-4 the next and 11-1 last year. We're 1-0 this year after beating a team many though was the #1 team in our district in our class. I wasn't with him the first year but basically he came in and set the tone his first off-season and reg season. It really I think comes with the attitude of the hc and staff. Many kids on the team were shall we say soft, always saying they were injured not working hard in the off season not dedicated. His goal the first season wasn't to win all the games but to get better every game. Have physical practices and change the losing attitude, didn't accept kids being banged up as an excuse not to practice, you have to play through it it's a physical game. I don't think you can go into a losing program and start saying were gonna win this many games blahh blahh. You need to make it clear you are looking for improvement every week every play. Also have a system and stick with it. They got beat by 50 the first game he was there running wing-t and a 50 def. got beat pretty bad that season but he never changed he let the kids learn the systems. Also teach FUNDAMENTALS week one through the last week of the season. Not sure if those are answers you want but thats they way we have become successful the last three/four years.
|
|
|
Post by groundchuck on Sept 3, 2007 10:49:52 GMT -6
we're talking the usual, February / April hire after (another) disappointing season from last Fall. I know crl has some thoughts on this..... What can you do in the 5 month period of April - September to turn your program around? I [glow=red,2,300] agree, but how does getting 250, 9 - 12 year olds out have to do with winning at the Varsity this year?[[/glow]/quote] Little or nothing but they will be your future players. And yes I agree you go Stalin/Lenin theory... everyone either gets on board or they get the F*** out. In a book called "Good to Great" which is about tkaing Fortune 500 companies to the top one of the axioms of all the companies they studied was FIRST get the wrong people off the bus and the right people on the bus. Then figure out where to go.
|
|
|
Post by wildcat on Sept 3, 2007 11:17:04 GMT -6
Addition by subtraction...get rid of dead weight, both on the roster and on the sideline.
|
|
crl
Junior Member
Pick me , pick me... I want to be on the RNC location scout team.
Posts: 476
|
Post by crl on Sept 3, 2007 11:36:36 GMT -6
I have no thoughts this year my humor is all that is left....I have always improved where I have gone... but After or 500 mark last year and the Fiasco that was Finland I am at my wits end.Even with the wifey saying" they are better than they ever have been"! Thats not sufficiant. I read in " Coaching Matters" that Lombardi came too GB and cleaned house, everything was in order by year two, you have to clean out the bad blood, this does not mean those who dis -agree at first before you step on the grass, but everyone must be on the same card when you do or as Groundy stated get the F**k out.
When I work as a Cord, the HC is the boss period, I will do what he wishes and express my opinion when it is asked if he does not listen I swallow the bile and move on to the job I have to do. A Coach once said go back to the basics and master those and then move on. Coaches have to do the same when they are under someone, thats called learning.
Stay the course , plan and excute the policys, the game plan and what you wish to achieve. Get a Staff that agrees with you and deligate and trust, hopefully in 2 years you are looking at a Ring or Close to it.
|
|
|
Post by groundchuck on Sept 3, 2007 12:01:34 GMT -6
Above I posted an example of what CAN/SHOULD be done. Below is an example of what actually happened to me when I took over the worst program in our state a a while back:
1. Create a culture: Create a culture in which you are the only person who feels football, really sports in general are important. In fact this goes for academics, and staying sober too (applies to players, parents, administrators, coaches).
2. Build a staff: Build a staff that stabs you in the back at every turn and turns your own players against you.
3. Year Round Work: Open the wt room and do SAQ programs for the kids, even if only 1-2 kids show up regularly. The kids will make small improvements, if they ever show up. Find a basketball coach who doesn't believe squats will {censored} up your vertical and bench pressing will make you shoot free throws like Shaq.
4. Youth Programs: WTF are those? If your community will not help you then combine with another town and run thier offense and defense.
5. High Expectations: Have "high expectations" like the rest of the community and expect to win 1-2 game a year. Then wonder why the community is {censored} at you for winning 1-2 game a year.
LOL!!!
|
|
crl
Junior Member
Pick me , pick me... I want to be on the RNC location scout team.
Posts: 476
|
Post by crl on Sept 3, 2007 13:34:21 GMT -6
Gee...Groundy, I almost feel better....yikes. Well f**k it , like always pick yourself up, shake of the dust and go at again. Further Note: Too bad you guys Xed My Program Manifesto...their is also one ingredient that helps....we all tend to forget this I think FUN !
|
|
|
Post by brophy on Sept 3, 2007 14:11:32 GMT -6
And if you could go in and do it all over again................
Administration? Well, they are what they are - Some folks just won't change, but you should be able to see the true colors in the interview process.
Kids? Kids are kids.......who they become will largely result on who has the final say.
........I've always believed in keeping at least two guys close to keep kids accountable and create that united front, and to keep your back when the the going gets rough. I know I could never even fool myself into thinking I could do it alone.
|
|
|
Post by groundchuck on Sept 3, 2007 17:53:31 GMT -6
NO way can you do it alone. That is why there are so few real quick turnarounds. Unless you have the clout/authority to make quick changes to the staff and bring in your people (which is usually not the case in the midwest) then you are often stuck at least for the first year with what you have...which is often part of the problem to begin with.
Administration changes too. You can get hired by people willing to help you and back you, then they, because they are good administrators take a job at a bigger better paying district and leave you with someone new.
Sometimes things are out of your control. You have to control the things you can and do your best with everything else.
|
|
|
Post by coachbdud on Sept 3, 2007 22:07:04 GMT -6
3. Year Round Work: Open the wt room and do SAQ programs for the kids, even if only 1-2 kids show up regularly. The kids will make small improvements, if they ever show up. Find a basketball coach who doesn't believe squats will {censored} up your vertical and bench pressing will make you shoot free throws like Shaq. Our basketball is terrible about this. He thinks lifting weights makes you slower and worse at basketball. He is also notorious for getting in kids ears and telling them they only have a future in basketball, and they should quit football. a lot of kids listen to him and the worst part is he is a terrible coach and they only one a couple games last year in basketball
|
|
|
Post by groundchuck on Sept 4, 2007 5:45:56 GMT -6
3. Year Round Work: Open the wt room and do SAQ programs for the kids, even if only 1-2 kids show up regularly. The kids will make small improvements, if they ever show up. Find a basketball coach who doesn't believe squats will {censored} up your vertical and bench pressing will make you shoot free throws like Shaq. Our basketball is terrible about this. He thinks lifting weights makes you slower and worse at basketball. He is also notorious for getting in kids ears and telling them they only have a future in basketball, and they should quit football. a lot of kids listen to him and the worst part is he is a terrible coach and they only one a couple games last year in basketball Where is the AD in all this?
|
|
|
Post by coachbdud on Sept 4, 2007 7:23:56 GMT -6
we are going on our 5th AD in the last years. Plus the coach has changed his wording a little bit in the last couple years, now he just tells the kids it will be hard to make his team without participating in his off season practices and camps
|
|