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Post by futurecoach on Nov 7, 2011 21:34:43 GMT -6
Having seen it both ways how many of you guys give your kids a scouting report to study during the week? I've seen coaches that won't do it and others that live by it. What do you guys do??
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Post by fantom on Nov 7, 2011 22:24:07 GMT -6
We did. Personnel, kicking game, offense (our plays against their defense), and defense (fronts and coverages against their offense+ stunts/blitzes).
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Post by calkayne on Nov 8, 2011 4:53:19 GMT -6
Personally I think that if you are not watching Video together then a Scouting report ought to be at least sent.
In my experience if you do not hand out scouting reports you "loose" time in Practice. But if you give ownership to the player to go through the Scouting Report then some do some dont. Pick your poison.
This year I will be trying to find a manageable (read: convenient for the player) way to create a Power Point Scouting report which will include Cut-Ups of the Opposition as well as the normal Scouting Format.
The Added video will give the players a real look with instant recognition, they dont need to stretch their imagination.
As just about everyone can open Power Point and Media Player (using MSoft or Mac software), this should be possible.
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Post by lionhart on Nov 8, 2011 6:55:23 GMT -6
As OC, i prepare a brief report for my plaers. it includes the strengths and weaknesses of the D we will be facing, their main fronts and coverages, tendencies and blitzes. It also will include a list of defensive personnel with the position, ht & wt, name and jersey number - with a brief description of the player (plays with high pad level, doesnt re-direct well). At the end of the report is our "Plan of Attack", which details which plays we plan to run and when we want to run them. The reports are posted in the locker room by Tuesday of game week, and the kids cant wait to go read them. If nothing else, it gives them a better feel of what they will be facing. They look forward to it every week.
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Post by veerraid on Nov 8, 2011 7:27:04 GMT -6
We give out one every week that covers all the basics (O, D, and Specials). I have found that some players find it useful while others do not look at it.
I really like calkayne's idea of putting together a combination Power Point with video. We use Power Point for our playbooks, and the kids really seem to love it. Combining with video would be an pretty good tool I think. Now, if we could only get Hudl so that I would not have to do the cut ups "by hand".
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Post by coachfd on Nov 8, 2011 8:33:00 GMT -6
I try to put one together for each position-group of our offense. Some years, I've done it for every position; usually, though, each position-group coach will do it for his group. Nothing long or over-detailed (2-3 pages), and each position's is different. They usually cover...
- Weekly formations, motions, adjustments, & shifts
- Entire Run Game, Pass Game, Screen Game, Pass Protections
- Audibles and Checks for the Week
- Quiz Questions ("What is the audible for this?" / "Which side do we want to run ___ to?" / "Draw this play from this formation." / "Which LB do you have in Pass Protection?")
It serves two main purposes:
1. To help reinforce all the information (and to serve as a review--players take them and review them on the bus rides as well)
2. To help the coach determine how much his players know, and what he needs to go over
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Post by coachhart on Nov 8, 2011 9:46:07 GMT -6
Each position coach compiles a scouting report, i.e. the WR coach does a DB personnel and coverage scouting report, RB coach does a LB personnel/blitz report, OL does DL personnel/fronts and stunts report, QB/OC does a brief overview of their overall D and our gameplan. We give all of the kids in our position the scouting report (the QB gets all of the reports) and we post the scouting reports on the bulletin board in the locker room as well. We also post and give the kids HUDL reports, too.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Nov 8, 2011 9:59:53 GMT -6
We do one. We are 2 platoon so the offensive staff creates one for the offense and defensive staff for the defense. Ours includes a title page, prospectus, personnel, favorite sets with favorite runs out of it, other sets they use, favorite pass sheet (8 most common pass packages), favorite run sheet (8 most common runs), and a D/D sheet.
I actually asked both of my starting safeties how much of it they read (both are pretty smart kids, 1 possible Ivy league, and have no problem being truthful) and they both said it is all important to them, the least important part being the prospectus. We usually hand it out at the lunch meeting on Monday, go through it together, and then watch film. Every player is responsible for their scouting report and must turn it in the following Monday to receive the next opponents report. This prevents it from just being thrown in the trash.
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Post by buckeye7525 on Nov 8, 2011 13:49:46 GMT -6
Are you guys going over these with the kids prior to the days practice that you give them out? Or do you just give them those as an off the field reference?
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Post by blackbear on Nov 8, 2011 16:47:10 GMT -6
Yea, I'm interested to how much time you guys are using to discuss these with your players...is it significantly more time than you would use during film review or practice? or similar? Staggering the information or all at once? Excuse my curiosity, thanks guys.
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Post by fantom on Nov 8, 2011 17:27:09 GMT -6
Are you guys going over these with the kids prior to the days practice that you give them out? Or do you just give them those as an off the field reference? On Monday we lift, watch the film of the previous game, then go outside and walk through the scouting report and game plan. |
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Post by tigeroption on Nov 8, 2011 18:04:16 GMT -6
We give out a scouting report every thursday night. It has exactly what most of you are talking about. It has an individual breakdown of every opponent key player or starter, hgt, wht, number, grade, and a brief comment about that players strengths or weaknesses. Then I have a paragraph each summarizing the offensive, defensive and special teams keys that we have talked about all week. Changes in blocking assignments vs. different fronts, things they do in the special teams we need to be aware of and tendencies on offense. then we include the hudl reports summary and top 2-3 formation breakdowns.
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Post by coachhart on Nov 9, 2011 8:04:10 GMT -6
We do the same thing as dcohio - our game film Saturday, opponent on Monday and throughout the rest of the week. Disseminate the scouting report(s) on Monday as well. We will use the scouting reports as a tool during the Monday meeting and the players are expected to bring the scouting reports with them to each subsequent meeting throughout the week.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 9, 2011 8:28:03 GMT -6
Tip sheet usually is out Wednesday, in a notebook, as well as DVD of offensive cut ups.
-Cover page
-Roster, Ht., Wt. Pos., including key back ups.
-Formations
-Favorite routes (noting where key WR lines up if applicable)
-Blocking schemes
-Keys to victory
-Motivational quotes, sayings, etc...
Usually about 3-5 pages, double sided. Each one is kept in the notebook.
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Post by bigplay on Nov 9, 2011 10:25:44 GMT -6
as a secondary coach we will give out offensive cut ups , we feel like the kids would much rather watch film than read. also we just rep the pizz out of our opp top five plays run/pass
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Post by fredhc on Nov 9, 2011 11:02:02 GMT -6
We do a scouting report very limited. Offense- Fronts, Coverage, Blitz, What we know- Brief description of how defense plays, Coaches Thoughts- initial thoughts on play selection personell packages ect., Diagrams of defensive adjustments to top formations motion. Defense Top 4 runs, top 3 passes, What we Know, Coaches Thoughts, Diagrams of Adjustments, Automatics, BTF's. Diagrams of top 3 runs- more for scout team.
Not to Highjack the thread but I notice a lot of you watch film on Saturday morning; how do you handle this. Is it varsity only? How long? Mandatory? etc.
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Post by rhscoachbh on Nov 9, 2011 11:25:04 GMT -6
We usually won't watch the previous game with our defense unless there were some glaring problems. They are sent the game film Saturday morning, and I'll go over any problems that I may have noticed with them at Monday's practice. We do grade each play, and each players sees the mistakes with the corresponding play on Hudl. On Sundays I will usually send out clips of the upcoming opponents favorite pass to my DBs. They are expected to watch that before Monday's meeting. We'll go over the scouting report Monday during the lunch meeting with the defense, then watch film (selected clips). We'll do set rec in early outs vs their favorite sets and 7 on 7 vs. their top 8 passing concepts. We'll also go over their top 8 run plays, and what they like to do on goalline, red zone, and score zone.
Thank God for Hudl as this makes all of this much easier.
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Post by coachhart on Nov 9, 2011 12:39:43 GMT -6
fredhc - we make film mandatory for anyone that dressed out the night before. We put that policy out there during the first parent meeting of the year as well as the consequences. The only real problems we've run in to are boys taking their official visits for scholarship purposes and we've had a couple miss because of the SAT or ACT.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 9, 2011 13:27:34 GMT -6
We haven't been that big into reports for the kids the last several years. We will post stuff in the locker room and draw up fronts for them but don't go crazy with it. Now that we have Hudl it is so easy to go in and create playlist to share with the team. I feel that is much more valuable than a piece of paper.
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Post by JVD on Nov 10, 2011 12:04:14 GMT -6
We have a 4 foot x 4 foot white board in our weightroom (gathering spot for players pre/post practice)
We post base offense/defense...favorite plays....best players and any tricks we know about.
For the last game of the year my LB's had on their wrist coach the top tendency by down and distance. They really liked that...said it gave them some focus. I'll probebly continue that.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 10, 2011 19:34:37 GMT -6
we hand out a scouting report but what the kids love and I find helpful is that we will put alot of the report on HUDL..favrite plays....d&D tendancies...etc
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Post by buckeye7525 on Nov 10, 2011 20:50:36 GMT -6
We have a 4 foot x 4 foot white board in our weightroom (gathering spot for players pre/post practice) We post base offense/defense...favorite plays....best players and any tricks we know about. For the last game of the year my LB's had on their wrist coach the top tendency by down and distance. They really liked that...said it gave them some focus. I'll probebly continue that. Coach, do you guys review that report in a meeting fashion before practice? |
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Post by JVD on Nov 11, 2011 8:17:52 GMT -6
We have a 4 foot x 4 foot white board in our weightroom (gathering spot for players pre/post practice) We post base offense/defense...favorite plays....best players and any tricks we know about. For the last game of the year my LB's had on their wrist coach the top tendency by down and distance. They really liked that...said it gave them some focus. I'll probebly continue that. Coach, do you guys review that report in a meeting fashion before practice? Yes. At some point we go over it. Usualy it's at our post game meeting on Friday night. We talk about that nights game, then look ahead to next week. As the week goes on (and I'm able to look at more film) I post more info on the board. I don't go over that with them, but players stop and check it every day. |
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Post by mholst40 on Nov 15, 2011 11:49:51 GMT -6
When we introduce the opponent's offense, we use the Hudl Scouting Reports and show them visually what their favorite formations are and what their favorite run and pass is out of each formation (assuming they are balanced). I also create a presentation for a scouting report and share it with all the players, so they have access after the fact.
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Post by runandshoot1 on Nov 15, 2011 11:58:15 GMT -6
As the OC we watch our film on Sat.
On Monday I spend 15-20 mins on the board with a chalk talk of the scouting report (D does the same) and then I have about a 15 min walk thru on the field where we talk blocking schemes, any adjustments, and walk thru anything new we add that week.
Tuesday is O practice and I have a cut up film I watch with the kids afterwards (would be better before practice but doesn't work that way) and I make about 6 copies of that for them to pass around with the starters during the week.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Nov 15, 2011 14:07:59 GMT -6
we hand out a scouting report but what the kids love and I find helpful is that we will put alot of the report on HUDL..favrite plays....d&D tendancies...etc Same here. We actually opted to not hand out scoutinig reports or playbooks. Everything is done via HUDL presentations. MUCH easier to work with. Mondays for us are: 1) Lift 2) Film (Good/Bad/Ugly from Friday) 3) Scouting Report 4) Practice |
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