caseys8527
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Post by caseys8527 on Nov 7, 2011 10:27:25 GMT -6
I probably should have had this in concrete at the beginning of the season.
What are guidelines that you use for lettering.
I have a few tweeners that I am unsure of where they fit.
Do you letter a purely special teams player? A Spot starter?
Thanks!
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Post by emptybackfield on Nov 7, 2011 10:59:57 GMT -6
Do you letter a purely special teams player? Thanks! Absolutely. If they start on any special team then they should letter, in my opinion. I consider those guys "starters." The spot starter dilemma is a little tougher. What is a "spot" starter? How many games did they start? If you're looking for something more concrete, maybe cutting it off at anyone that played in half of the varsity quarters.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 7, 2011 11:08:03 GMT -6
We are a small school so it's simple for us, basically you make it the whole year you get a letter. Don't get into all the qualifications for one. We feel if a kid dedicated himself from July to November then here ya go have a letter.
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Post by fantom on Nov 7, 2011 11:22:13 GMT -6
We are a small school so it's simple for us, basically you make it the whole year you get a letter. Don't get into all the qualifications for one. We feel if a kid dedicated himself from July to November then here ya go have a letter. We're not a small school and we do it the same way. If they were on the roster and in good standing they get a letter.
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Post by blb on Nov 7, 2011 11:26:09 GMT -6
Agree with fantom and wingtol. Have always done it that way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 11:44:49 GMT -6
Me too. I know some consider that part of the "everyone gets a trophy" philosophy, but I think its a just reward for finishing the year. And, besides, the last school I was at sort of staggered the awards--pins, letters, Titan logo, etc.--so it was a natural progression to letter everyone anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 12:13:09 GMT -6
I'll add to, sort of along with wingtol, that most of my experience is at the small school level. So, if we tried to develop some sort of requirements based on playing time, there would be only a few not "qualify" anyway.
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caseys8527
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Post by caseys8527 on Nov 7, 2011 12:16:14 GMT -6
This is all good - I appreciate it.
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Post by newb on Nov 7, 2011 13:09:38 GMT -6
This is a tough subject no doubt, but I would hesitate to hand out letter simply by showing up because then the kids know they will letter as long as they show up and there's less of an incentive to try to earn a starting spot. However, I wouldn't base it on playing time or number of quarters ect... Some years the backups might actually play more than the starters if you're really good or really bad. If a kid starts any varsity spot (O, D, or ST) at any point in time or contributes to varsity regularly (subbing in and out) then they deserve a letter.
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Post by fantom on Nov 7, 2011 14:10:29 GMT -6
This is a tough subject no doubt, but I would hesitate to hand out letter simply by showing up because then the kids know they will letter as long as they show up and there's less of an incentive to try to earn a starting spot. However, I wouldn't base it on playing time or number of quarters ect... Some years the backups might actually play more than the starters if you're really good or really bad. If a kid starts any varsity spot (O, D, or ST) at any point in time or contributes to varsity regularly (subbing in and out) then they deserve a letter. I've never coached a kid who didn't try hard because he knew he was getting a letter anyway.
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Post by newb on Nov 7, 2011 14:32:21 GMT -6
This is a tough subject no doubt, but I would hesitate to hand out letter simply by showing up because then the kids know they will letter as long as they show up and there's less of an incentive to try to earn a starting spot. However, I wouldn't base it on playing time or number of quarters ect... Some years the backups might actually play more than the starters if you're really good or really bad. If a kid starts any varsity spot (O, D, or ST) at any point in time or contributes to varsity regularly (subbing in and out) then they deserve a letter. I've never coached a kid who didn't try hard because he knew he was getting a letter anyway. I've never coached one either, but I did play with a few. They tried it out their freshman year and didn't like the time committment. Sat out their sophmore and junior years, then came back their senior year and acted like they were too good for the team. Went to the weightroom but didn't lift. Did just enough in practice to get by (those three were easily the most athletic on the team) and never paid attention during film or team meetings. As a player it really disgusted me that those three got raised to the same status as the rest of us who actually busted our butts all year by recieving letters. Sorry for the rant but that situation has really stuck with me and it's why I feel that a varsity letter needs to be earned not given.
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Post by fantom on Nov 7, 2011 14:47:13 GMT -6
I've never coached a kid who didn't try hard because he knew he was getting a letter anyway. I've never coached one either, but I did play with a few. They tried it out their freshman year and didn't like the time committment. Sat out their sophmore and junior years, then came back their senior year and acted like they were too good for the team. Went to the weightroom but didn't lift. Did just enough in practice to get by (those three were easily the most athletic on the team) and never paid attention during film or team meetings. As a player it really disgusted me that those three got raised to the same status as the rest of us who actually busted our butts all year by recieving letters. Sorry for the rant but that situation has really stuck with me and it's why I feel that a varsity letter needs to be earned not given. If they practice with us every day tyey earned it.
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Post by fantom on Nov 7, 2011 14:53:08 GMT -6
I've never coached a kid who didn't try hard because he knew he was getting a letter anyway. I've never coached one either, but I did play with a few. They tried it out their freshman year and didn't like the time committment. Sat out their sophmore and junior years, then came back their senior year and acted like they were too good for the team. Went to the weightroom but didn't lift. Did just enough in practice to get by (those three were easily the most athletic on the team) and never paid attention during film or team meetings. As a player it really disgusted me that those three got raised to the same status as the rest of us who actually busted our butts all year by recieving letters. Sorry for the rant but that situation has really stuck with me and it's why I feel that a varsity letter needs to be earned not given. BTW, these guys who didn't play their soph and junior years? Nice talking to ya. Bye.
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Post by jrk5150 on Nov 7, 2011 15:08:51 GMT -6
The HS I went to had 9 regular season games a year, and if you played in 18 quarters, you lettered. If you were injured, the coaches could make an exception. Not sure what they did with seniors, honestly.
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Post by jgordon1 on Nov 7, 2011 16:30:35 GMT -6
we have rules in our county...you have to play in at least 5 games..if you are a senior, it is at your discretion
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 8, 2011 10:45:53 GMT -6
Have to participate in 50%of the quarters, O D ST, other wise you get a JV letter/certificate of participation. If we win a state championship, everybody letters.
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Post by realdawg on Nov 8, 2011 11:39:01 GMT -6
Finish the season, get a letter.
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Post by Wingtman on Nov 8, 2011 12:48:44 GMT -6
Our rule is 50% of quarters. Also you get 1"quarter" for every summer work out you attend. So a player could have 15 quarters before the season starts. Also if we win the district title(which we did)everyone in good standing letters.
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Post by jonnyjon on Nov 8, 2011 18:34:28 GMT -6
Scout team players aren't important?
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Post by wolfden12 on Nov 10, 2011 9:05:56 GMT -6
20 qtrs. 1 play = 1 qtr (can set to whatever you desire)
HC's decision on those that might be short
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Post by wheels1284 on Nov 10, 2011 10:07:45 GMT -6
My question is why waste time having to count quarters? (and who keeps track of this) We letter seniors, starters (anyone who starts at least one game) and anyone who starts on any special team for at least 3 games. It has never been an issue.
I was on a previous staff who wouldn't letter the starting punter because he was a freshman.
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