mia305au
Freshmen Member
"We're either coaching it to happen, or allowing it to happen."
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Post by mia305au on Nov 1, 2011 11:16:49 GMT -6
Last season, we were 4-5 and made the playoffs. Had a bunch of injuries at the beginning of the season. Our QB had a foot injury, our WR had a hip injury, 2 of our OL had knee and hip injuries and we got healthy right before district play. Went 4-0 and won the district. Took it all the way to the state semi finals where we lost in overtime.
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Post by coachschro on Nov 1, 2011 11:42:40 GMT -6
Fantom,
In Kansas everyone plays 9 games, some or all of those games could be league games, but only the last 3 are district games. Then the top 2 from each district advance. So you could be 6-0 or 0-6 going into district and your chances are the same. So half of each classification makes it to the playoffs in 6a,5a,4a,3a and then it just depends how many teams end up being in 2a and 8man...
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Post by k on Nov 1, 2011 20:19:18 GMT -6
Where's the 11-0 choice? Back when I was playing in high school I remmeber reading about a CT team that was 11-0 and they didn't make the playoffs. Kind of crazy. It probably happened more than once during the era when only two teams from each division played for the state championship. 9-1 and out of the playoffs happened just about every year under the old 4 teams make it. Now 8 teams make it so that won't ever happen again. =) If the season ended today: a few 6-1 teams would be out in LL & L a 5-2 team makes it in both M & S
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Post by gdoggwr on Nov 2, 2011 9:44:22 GMT -6
[google][/google] In Kansas the playoffs are based on 4 team districts. we take the top two from each. the districts are geographical so there are regularly 2 loss teams that don't make it (were undefeated regular season then dropped two district games) For us non-Kansas folk that's going to take some explaining. I don't understand what this means. For us there are 10 regular season (league games + a few non-league games based on how many teams are in your league) games then there are playoffs. sorry for being less than clear. Kansas plays 9 regular season games. Every team is placed into a four team district. So there are three district games (these are games seven, eight, and nine). The district champ and the runner up (based solely on the record the last three games) go to the playoffs. so you can go 0-6, with your last three and be a district champion. the flip side is you could go 6-0 then lose a district game or two and not make the playoffs with a 7-2 or 8-1 record. The crazy thing is the districts are set geographically, not by league or record or seeding, so its not equitable. in 6A this year there was a district whose four teams were 1-5, 1-5, 2-4, and 0-6 coming into district play. so there is a district champion with a 4-5 record (won their three district games) and the runner up is 2-7 (the 0-6 team won 2 of 3) And this system is the improved version... they used to only take one team from each district, so there were regularly 1 loss team that didn't make the playoffs, and teams with 2 or 3 wins that got in. In the town I'm in there were a couple of times where the crosstown rivals met in game 9, both 8-0, ranked 1 and 2 in the state and only one goes to the playoffs. I'm a fan of the system Missouri is going to. the last game of the season is basically a play in game seeded according to record. At least the you're rewarded for a great regular season by getting a team that has a poor record in the play-in/first round.
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Post by brianmulligan on Nov 2, 2011 9:57:09 GMT -6
Here in Virginia you could have a 4-6 team make the playoffs in class 2A. That is is obsurd. With a win and a loss by another team they are in at 4-6.
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Post by fantom on Nov 2, 2011 10:16:22 GMT -6
Here in Virginia you could have a 4-6 team make the playoffs in class 2A. That is is obsurd. With a win and a loss by another team they are in at 4-6. Depends where you are in Virginia. TVT's team will probably go 9-1 and sit out the playoffs. That'll be the second time in three years that that'll happen.
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 2, 2011 11:06:20 GMT -6
***Our Regions equate to Conferences***
SC has 4 Divisions, with this year AAAA splitting into 2 playoffs, AAA single playoff, AA splitting into 2 playoffs and everybody in, A splitting in to 2 playoffs.
AAAA, AA, A have a points system. Beat a AAAA team get so many points, beat AAA team get so many, etc.... The splits are based on class enrollment.
In years past it was based on region finish, and then the brackets put the region winner verses another region's lesser placed team. The regions are set up geographically. Years ago only the top 2 from each region made the playoffs, more recently a round was added and the top 4 made the playoffs.
The reason for the switch towards a points system, was the creation of the 'Big 16', the biggest 16 schools in the state. Some call it the Summerville rule, because they and a couple of others were to much bigger than even the other AAAA teams. The biggest 16 school automatically made the playoffs and were seeded based on a points system. The other 32 qualified for the playoffs ('best' other 16) based on the same points system.
Over time the AAAA playoffs moved to simply have 2 divisions of playoffs, DI for the bigger schools, DII for the smaller schools, again based on points earned during the regular season. And now the smaller classifications have moved to a similar setup.
There are currently 48 schools in AAAA, AAA, AAA. A has about 40 schools that field football teams. Next year we will have 52 in the top 3 classifications, and the remainder will be in the lowest. Starting next year all classifications will have 2 playoff tiers.
All that being said, in the past the non region schedule made little difference for anyone, since those games did not determine the playoffs. Small schools played big schools and vice versa for various reasons. But once the region play began, you were competing with similar size schools in the same general demographic area. So for some of the more isolated areas that only have 5-6 teams in their region, it was possible to make the playoffs by winning usually 2 region games. Though it was not within the realm of impossibility to for a 1 win team to make it.
Now, there still is a chance for this disparity, because a team in the smaller classifications could 'play up', lose some games to bigger schools, but get extra points for those losses than they would for winning a game verses a smaller school.
EX. Class A team Alpha plays a non region game verses class AAA team Anaconda and loses. Team Alpha gets 2 points. Class A team Bravo plays class A team Baker and wins, Team Bravo gets 1 point.
Now each classification has different ways to reward winning your region championship, but it is all over the place. In A you get 13 bonus points. In AAAA the region winners get seeded first, then followed by the runners up.
With all that being said, each year in AAAA, there will be a 6-7 win team or 2 not make it. In the lower classifications, the cut off is usually 5.
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Post by coachdag on Nov 2, 2011 12:06:07 GMT -6
Colorado has it set by a point system..with 32 teams making the playoffs at the top level (5A). It's weird and I don't get it. No one really does. But you can have teams 3-6 make it and a team 4-5 not make it.
It's based on your schedule and the teams you play are given a certain amount of points based on their record. The better they do the better your score. Take the top 32 (out of 52) and you get into the playoffs. Every team is guaranteed 10 games, so that first game counts as the tenth and the other 20 that did not make it, match up and play each other for that last game.
The thing of it is that the rules also state that if two teams are matched against each other and are from the same conference, the rankings are fudged a bit so those two teams don't play each other. It was set up since there were schools that were playing really weak teams and scheduling teams in a lower class (in the same town, changing populations of schools making the school dropping a class etc, ) just to beef their record up. It makes no sense what so ever and I have yet to meet someone who understands that whole thing. Think BCS but worse.
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Post by Chris Clement on Nov 2, 2011 13:04:27 GMT -6
In Ontario:
Each school has a classification (function of student population) and a district (function of geography). Each district sets the schedule, typically a round-robin, partial round-robin, or home-and-home. They also set the playoff entry rules. Usually everyone gets in, unless it's a bizarre 9-team league or something, but you are seeded, so the top teams basically get a warm-up game against very soft competition. Districts MAY then have agreements to play in bowl games against other districts, like the Rose Bowl. The Central Bowl, for example, is played between the champions of the Georgian Bay and Northern Ontario districts. There is no unified championship.
In Toronto, this is all different, they have a byzantine system for determining who goes to the Metro Bowl, which is actually a straight single-elimination tournament.
In Quebec: Your competition level is set by gentleman's agreement, especially because only certain schools support the Sports-Studies program, which is like the mother of all athletic periods. A truly awful or dominant team could get pushed out of its competition level and be sent up or down, but it's political, bizarre, and above my pay grade.
Each competition level (A, AA, BB) divides the province by geography to make regions, who schedule games and an internal playoff, largely according to geography, because the population is very scattered and road games can be many hours away. The winners of these regions polay for provincial championships, but only at certain levels.
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radar97
Sophomore Member
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Post by radar97 on Nov 2, 2011 13:29:56 GMT -6
We are currently 4-5 and are in the playoffs(TX) We started 0-5 and have won four straight. The record of our first five opponents to this point in the season is 42-2. One of the loses being to another team that we played in the first five. If/win we win Friday we will be 5-5 and second in our district, and I think we are as dissevering of a playoff team as any out there.
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Post by bigm0073 on Nov 4, 2011 7:14:24 GMT -6
20 years ago in PA it was ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to make the playoffs..
1989 my sophomore year we went 11-0... Did not make it.. We were pretty awesome too...
1990 my junior year - went 9-1-1 (No OT ) and missed it. The only team we lost to was the eventual state runner finalist team. We lost to them 21-14... It was brutal back then.....
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Post by icoacholine on Nov 4, 2011 11:23:23 GMT -6
In North Carolina the Top 3 in each conference (256 total)are a shoe in. Unfornately its all screwy as we have 4-6 teams hosting first round home games against 7-3 teams.
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