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Post by John Knight on Oct 28, 2011 9:12:45 GMT -6
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Post by fantom on Oct 28, 2011 9:14:38 GMT -6
No.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 9:14:45 GMT -6
Not at all and I don't get the "dye it black" thing either. Some kids look just as goofy with dyed black hair as they do blonde!
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Post by bluedevil4 on Oct 28, 2011 9:18:24 GMT -6
Well, if no one was informed that it was a rule, then the coach has no case. I honestly wouldn't care about a kid dying his hair, unless it was for an inappropriate cause. I might be the guy to actually propose that if a few dye their hair, the whole team should.
Our wrestling program goes to the state finals every year pretty much (won 5 since 2000, back-to-back last two years). Every time the playoffs begin, all the wrestlers dye their hair the same color as a tradition (usually either blonde or black). So pretty much every year, these kids are dying their hair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 9:20:51 GMT -6
One of the most successful small school programs in IL has a tradition where the whole team dyes their hair blonde for the playoffs and if someone is naturally blonde, they have to do something goofy like pink or green! Not sure how it started, but they've been doing it probably 15-20 years now.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2011 9:26:40 GMT -6
That HC must have a lot of free time on his hands to fight that battle.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 28, 2011 9:29:31 GMT -6
I don't know why rules like this get put in place- who cares...
Our district policy would keep kids from doing anything crazy- students aren't allowed to wear their hair in any "unnatural" color; so black/blonde/red are ok but anything else is a dress code violation and they would be sent home until it got fixed.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2011 9:33:54 GMT -6
We don't allow hair that's dyed funky colors here but it does get out of hand. We had a freshman show up who had pink hair but didn't understand the rule. She was shipped to detention and spent most of a week there because she couldn't get the dye out of her hair. She stays at the school dorms during the week (private school) so it was really hard for her to wash it out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 9:34:43 GMT -6
Random thought: I wonder how many times over the years articles like this have gotten posted....and the HC in question is a member here?
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Post by fantom on Oct 28, 2011 9:36:03 GMT -6
Rules like that just don't make any sense to me. I have to have something more important to worry about than what color some kid's hair is.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 28, 2011 9:37:36 GMT -6
Random thought: I wonder how many times over the years articles like this have gotten posted....and the HC in question is a member here? If there's a Yahoo article about a teacher/coach snapping and wandering around the wilderness naked, it's probably me. Fair warning.
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 28, 2011 9:48:33 GMT -6
Why create an issue and distraction and garner ill will from parents over something this silly? Pick your battles and dump your "unwritten" rules for clearly stated written ones.
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Post by k on Oct 28, 2011 10:00:07 GMT -6
If I was a parent in the district I'd be on an all out campaign to get the "coach" fired. I think he'd be better of staying home watching those fashion shows my girl watches.
I wouldn't ever consider working with someone who wants to play dress up with their players.
Maybe you could get away with the totalitarian coaching style if you were you know WINNING... But he is 2-7.... FIRED.
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Post by silkyice on Oct 28, 2011 10:15:39 GMT -6
That is stupid.
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Post by coachgrizz on Oct 28, 2011 13:18:53 GMT -6
Not at all and I don't get the "dye it black" thing either. Some kids look just as goofy with dyed black hair as they do blonde! Pretty sure they said dye it back not dye it black. Still if makes no sense to me.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Oct 28, 2011 22:33:46 GMT -6
Glad this team has so few issues that they can even fight this battle. God bless 'em, if this was the biggest problem we had I'd wake up well rested every morning.
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Post by tothehouse on Oct 28, 2011 22:58:42 GMT -6
Heck...they are coming together as teammates. Bonding...brotherhood, etc. Why would you stop that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 23:05:10 GMT -6
Yep, I misread that coachgrizz, but yes I think we're in agreement on the issue.
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Post by coachhartley on Oct 29, 2011 6:59:35 GMT -6
Wow, this is truly stupid. Peoples hair makes no difference to the football program, or the school. I've had everything for long hair to a purple mo'hawk and it didn't change me as a person one bit (except all the people coming up to me to tell me how much the purple Mo rocked). Whilst I'm older these days (aren't we all) and don't have the silly hair I get really upset with people who have issues with it in others.
If all my players wanted to turn up with multi coloured hair, facial piercings and visible tattoos I'd have no issue at all.
(I would laugh at them when their faces get covered in dye and their piercings get ripped out but they would learn like I did)
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Post by indian1 on Oct 29, 2011 13:43:42 GMT -6
If the coach is going to bench those six guys for that, they must not be very good players
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Post by champ93 on Oct 29, 2011 14:09:51 GMT -6
Delta lost to (0-9) Montpelier, 30-26 last night. I do not know if the kids involved played or not, but I'm trying to find out.
There's gotta be more to it than what we're seeing---at least I hope so...
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Post by kylem56 on Oct 29, 2011 14:37:33 GMT -6
I know the Head Coach of the program in this situation. I actually began my coaching career there several years ago. There is MUCH MORE to this than the news story is showing. It involved the group of kids telling the coach "we're going to do ___ and ____ and ____" with the hair dying thing being the last of it. The coach told them if you do any of these things, you will not play and they did it to spite him. The coach is a good Christian man who is in a place that is known for the community treating football as 2nd class sport. The parents of these kids called the news station telling their side of the story, the HC refused to comment and thus it ended up as a 1 sided story in the media outlets
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Post by fantom on Oct 29, 2011 14:45:25 GMT -6
I know the Head Coach of the program in this situation. I actually began my coaching career there several years ago. There is MUCH MORE to this than the news story is showing. It involved the group of kids telling the coach "we're going to do ___ and ____ and ____" with the hair dying thing being the last of it. The coach told them if you do any of these things, you will not play and they did it to spite him. The coach is a good Christian man who is in a place that is known for the community treating football as 2nd class sport. The parents of these kids called the news station telling their side of the story, the HC refused to comment and thus it ended up as a 1 sided story in the media outlets What were the other things that they wanted to do?
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 29, 2011 14:59:47 GMT -6
Heck...they are coming together as teammates. Bonding...brotherhood, etc. Why would you stop that? Are they? Or are they just doing something to draw attention to themselves separate from the team?
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Post by fantom on Oct 29, 2011 15:06:46 GMT -6
Heck...they are coming together as teammates. Bonding...brotherhood, etc. Why would you stop that? Are they? Or are they just doing something to draw attention to themselves separate from the team? Pretty sure that's sarcasm.
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Post by champ93 on Oct 29, 2011 19:41:03 GMT -6
3rd hand info, but apparently a few kids dyed their hair back to their original color, others did not. Also 3rd hand, but I've been told they played.
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Post by kylem56 on Oct 29, 2011 20:11:47 GMT -6
Heck...they are coming together as teammates. Bonding...brotherhood, etc. Why would you stop that? Are they? Or are they just doing something to draw attention to themselves separate from the team? This incident just the last straw in a series of acts of rebellion. Missed practices, discipline issues, etc. The kids bragged about doing it in front of other teammates to get attention and the coach then said what he did.
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Post by coachd5085 on Oct 29, 2011 20:20:22 GMT -6
Are they? Or are they just doing something to draw attention to themselves separate from the team? This incident just the last straw in a series of acts of rebellion. Missed practices, discipline issues, etc. The kids bragged about doing it in front of other teammates to get attention and the coach then said what he did. Oh I figured that. The fact that it was an "exclusive" to that TV station shows that it wasn't a story till the parents decided to MAKE it one and shop around a human interest story. The media does that sometimes, looking for some controversy/different angles. Heck I was cited with possession of alcohol around 2 hours before my 21st birthday. Local reporter saw it in police reports (by time it was processed I was 21) and contacted me to do a story on it. Told them there was no story...
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Post by coachhartley on Oct 30, 2011 1:34:42 GMT -6
This incident just the last straw in a series of acts of rebellion. Missed practices, discipline issues, etc. The kids bragged about doing it in front of other teammates to get attention and the coach then said what he did. Then the coach truly f'ed up. Going head to head with players over an issue is always a bad idea. Even if you win you look like a total arse. If this was the final straw then it's an issue that the coach should have dealt with much sooner. I understand that once he said it then he couldn't go back and had forced his own hand. This is why ultimatums are a bad idea.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 30, 2011 13:32:19 GMT -6
Sounds like discipline should have been handled before this little sh-t show was allowed to transpire. Kick the kids off of the team before they have a chance to pull such an 'act of rebellion'.
Or, simply let them know that they're more than welcome to look like the Children Of The Corn on the bench,
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