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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2011 7:23:12 GMT -6
We have had a decent year... 4-5 so far.... decent in comparison to the 1-9 they went last year.
We have had a pretty positive year in terms of behavior and buy in.
Well this week we play last year's state champs... being at a VERY small school (102 high schoolers) we have very footballers who do not play basketball... So we have the few you always get who are getting orange ball fever.
Both of my inside backers missed practice on Monday... no call no show.
One of which has already been rumored to say how no one on the team nor any of the parents thought we could win.
Well yesterday we were out of school for parent/teacher conference... scheduled for 3pm practice since the kids were out of school.
These two did not show up...
Today, I plan to have them do some pretty harsh punishment for their two days... if they refuse then they will not play friday at all...
That all is pretty much a no brainer...
My problem comes in with Friday being Senior Night...
If they do refuse... so I just refuse to honor them at Senior Night?
Im at a small private school with big politics... this could be rough on me after the fact, but it is my belief that if you quit the team then you dont get honored.... and refusing to do what you have to do to play is basically them quitting..
hell, missing 2 days of the last week of practice constitutes quitting in my book.
any thoughts?
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Post by blb on Oct 26, 2011 7:28:24 GMT -6
No advice ar just an example-food for thought.
We played our final regular season last Friday at opponent's Senior Night.
Their starting QB and FB (who was also Homecoming King) were suspended from playing for MIPs.
They were introduced along with other Seniors and parents.
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2011 7:33:00 GMT -6
No advice ar just an example-food for thought. We played our final regular season last Friday at opponent's Senior Night. Their starting QB and FB (who was also Homecoming King) were suspended from playing for MIPs. They were introduced along with other Seniors and parents. I guess that is another way to handle it... still on the team, just suspended for this week's game... just so happens to be our last game... |
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Post by coachorr on Oct 26, 2011 7:40:03 GMT -6
Do not play them, if you want to send the right message to the team, but have them honored at senior night.
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Post by JMC on Oct 26, 2011 7:46:46 GMT -6
I agree with other two posts. They are still on the team just suspended from playing. Let them be part of senior night, heck if they quit you may not have to even worry about it.
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2011 7:50:23 GMT -6
Sounds for sure like that is my best bet... allows me to not go looking for extra trouble, but also allows me to stand my ground.
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Post by flexoption91 on Oct 26, 2011 8:01:53 GMT -6
I agree with everyone above.
If they quit than they made the choice to not be honored.
Now, what if they do not show up the rest of the week but decide to come to the game? Do you still honor them?
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Post by bephysical on Oct 26, 2011 8:09:21 GMT -6
Yeah you have to honor them
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Post by dacoordinator on Oct 26, 2011 8:14:34 GMT -6
I put it like this if they refuse to do the punishment, release them from the team. You can't allow them to destroy what you have built this year with the rest of the under classmen. If they agree to do the punishment and you guys are going to the playoffs then sit them out for the up coming game and honor them for Senior night. Something tells me the one who parents as well as he does not think you guys have a chance won't do the punishment.
Also we have a policy at our school that if you Quit or are put of a team you can participate in the next sport to come up. Keeps a lot of kids in check.
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Post by macdiiddy on Oct 26, 2011 8:34:47 GMT -6
I would let them do the whole senior night introductions, make them dress and don't play them.
Sends a message to the squad that no one is bigger than the team
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Post by ajreaper on Oct 26, 2011 9:32:09 GMT -6
For the future have a policy in place to cover this and be sure players and parents know- then you are just doing exactly what you told them you would. Saves a lot of grief, you knew the consequences, you chose to put yourself in this position and I am doing exactly what I said I would.
From my stand point these 2 have sent a clear message to the team, the other seniors and the coaches- we could care less about any of you. Under our policy 2 unexcused absences means they do not dress out for the game, they'd still have make ups to do and would practice but dressing out and playing is out of the question. Now this being the last game they'd likely quit under that scenario so senior night would be a moot point.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 26, 2011 9:52:35 GMT -6
Skipped 2 practices, the last week of the season. Adios.
No soup for you, Bye-Bye! Whatever you want to call it, I would no longer call them team members.
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Post by coachfd on Oct 26, 2011 10:58:13 GMT -6
Don't make any decisions until you speak with them first.
Also, keep in mind that it's their last football game. That's something that's very difficult to deprive them of, because it means they've already played their last game, without knowing it.
In life, whenever you can give someone a better fate than they might deserve, do it: that is called being merciful. In the end, we all need a little mercy shown upon us.
My first-thought as far as advice would be this: Make the punishment severe, but then allow them to play. (They don't have to play a lot, but let them know when their last steps on the field will be. Also, Senior Night is almost more for the parents and all the other people who have sacrificed for and love those kids, than it is for the players themselves sometimes. Keep that in mind.)
If you still are in doubt, have a team meeting and ask your players and coaches to weigh in. You never know what ideas may come about.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 26, 2011 11:20:25 GMT -6
OMG! Team meeting over whether two guys that skipped 2 practices should not be kicked off the team? That is very sad IMHO!
Anyone that plays for me knows that 2 skipped practices gets your locker cleaned.
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Post by leighty on Oct 26, 2011 11:30:11 GMT -6
Whatever your decision, understand that you're setting a precedent that may or may not come back to bite you in the ass.
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2011 11:44:56 GMT -6
Its pretty much going to be like this...
If they show up for practice today, they will be told that they must do 200 yards of log rolls. It could be a lot more sever than this...
If they decide that playing in their last game come win, loss, or but kicking... then they will do them.... if not... well what is left to discuss?
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Post by fantom on Oct 26, 2011 12:04:29 GMT -6
There may be a bigger issue. In your OP you mention that your kids start thinking basketball toward the end of the season. Is that where they were?
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2011 12:10:00 GMT -6
There may be a bigger issue. In your OP you mention that your kids start thinking basketball toward the end of the season. Is that where they were? No, there are only 10 boys in the entire high school who do not play football... Out of that 10 only around 3 play basketball... so they won't even start practice until after Friday night... dont have enough until then.. |
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Post by leighty on Oct 27, 2011 12:13:14 GMT -6
Update?
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Post by Wingtman on Oct 30, 2011 22:33:28 GMT -6
Skipped practice, as a senior, in your last week to play football (possibly)forever? Does.Not.Compute.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 31, 2011 8:46:35 GMT -6
I wouldn't say a word to them, no punishment, I'd let them dress, ride the bus, full gear on the sideline - and then not play them. Your other kids are smart enough to figure it out. YES!! This is how we handled several of these situations this season. Several of them went on one of our over-nighters (seven hours of driving in two days). It was great; they spent their whole weekend riding a bus, sleeping in an uncomfortable hotel with coaches on their a--es just to sit on the sideline. GREAT PUNISHMENT. |
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