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Post by emptybackfield on Oct 25, 2011 21:04:58 GMT -6
Is there a point in watching film of the opponent after you've already got your stuff installed in Monday's practice? If so, what are you looking for? Just trying to reinforce what you saw over the weekend?
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Post by grouchy71 on Oct 25, 2011 21:32:27 GMT -6
Exactly to reinforce what we've already shown them. At the end of the week, we'll actually show film of us defending a certain thing in practice, then show film of the opponent running said thing. By the end of it, the kids are really well-drilled in how things will look on Friday night/Saturday. This is just a "reinforcing" thing though, we're talking a few minutes of selected film, not a whole other in-depth film session like Monday.
Grouch
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 26, 2011 6:43:56 GMT -6
We hunt an peck all week long, sometimes it takes a while for it to click.
For me personally: -Sat ODK/input -Sun staff meeting -Mon Try to get the cut ups ready for players -Tues DC watches tape with the kids while we JV/Cteam scrimmage - Wed Rehash the game plan/film in my mind
Sometimes it just to confirms what we already have, sometimes it will refocus what need to work on. We certainly won't come up with a new game plan in the middle of the week, but often you find an extra little something, a key that gives you an edge.
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Post by macdiiddy on Oct 26, 2011 8:38:43 GMT -6
Defensively, it is a great tool to learn and visually see how they will run a particular play, additionally I feel you must teach the kids on how to watch film and not watch the game. They can understand who they are going against, like the DE on the offensive tackles. They can look for keys, such as, if the guard is rocking back in his stance on pass plays. These keys help the prepare.
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Post by emptybackfield on Oct 26, 2011 8:46:54 GMT -6
I guess I wasn't all that clear in my initial post. How much film do YOU watch during the week? I realize we all show the kids the film, but how much are you looking at the tape of the team you play Friday on Tuesday and Wednesday?
Personally, I feel that once the game plan is in and you have a good idea of what you're going to get then there isn't much point in watching any more.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 26, 2011 9:06:48 GMT -6
Right up until KickOff! The more you know your opponent, the better prepared you are to adjust on the fly.
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Post by brophy on Oct 26, 2011 9:07:58 GMT -6
I feel that once the game plan is in and you have a good idea of what you're going to get then there isn't much point in watching any more. commit to memory what they are doing so you have a fresh database in your head when you go into Friday night. If you're up in the box on Friday, I don't see why you wouldn't continually repeat their games through the week (it becomes deja vu during the game because you're seeing the same view) You and your band are learning songs....."yeah, we 'know' this song, lets just go home" - no, you go over and over and over again and eliminate any mistakes you could possibly make. Having an idea of what your opponent is nice, but it doesn't help eliminate the mistakes you could make on Friday. The point of going over film is not really to figure out what your opponent is doing, but how you are going to get your team to make the best decisions (how you're going to package your series, knowing specifically what your opponent will do to respond, and already playing the game in your head a hundred times before kickoff).
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Post by rcole on Oct 26, 2011 9:27:35 GMT -6
The more you watch even late in the week, the more little tips you will begin to see. A Qb tipping run/pass by his foot stagger. An OL light on his hands or heavy on his hands.
1) First viewing of film is more about "what do they run and how can we attack it." 2) Then "what are their tendencies." 3) Then "who are the weak links." 4) Then "what other tells can I find."
1 and 2 definitely is 100% clear on Sunday. 3 begins to become clear on Sunday but you learn more as you watch more. 4, you may find on Sunday, but most likely you will overlook it as you look for the big picture. You may not pick up on a good tell until Thursday after it finally clicks from watching hours of film. I encourage my players to study their opponent, as in the individual kid they will be going against. I have given them questionnaires to fill out while watching film to guide them in looking for tells. You would be surprised what they can find.
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Post by raiderx on Oct 26, 2011 10:19:47 GMT -6
The point for me watching film all week is to pick up on things that I may have missed during the week. Maybe when the DT slants he puts his mack foot back slightly. When they run pirate they back the looper off the ball...etc. Anything that I may not have noticed the 1st time that will give an edge.
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Post by struceri on Oct 26, 2011 19:26:29 GMT -6
I watch all week. You never know what little things you may have missed before that can help you come game night. I agree with dcohio though, a lot of what happens on game night is by feel but the more film I watch the better feel I have for certain plays or situations.
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Post by downdownkick on Oct 26, 2011 20:03:35 GMT -6
I think you get a lot out of watching film all week. The first time I see it, on Sunday, I'm mostly just observing and taking notes. But then I rewatch a few days later, and I find myself instinctively calling out tendencies ("Toss wide!") that I wouldn't have been confident in on Sunday. So I watch about 6-8 hours on sunday, then 30-45 every night after that.
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Post by jgordon1 on Oct 27, 2011 11:55:36 GMT -6
I am always double checking things or if an idea pops in my head I might check it out..Last night for instance..I watched a whole game through...this am I thought of something and was able to use a HUDL filter...This afternoon we made a slight alignment adjustment..IMO the Hay is "NEVER" in the barn
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Post by mholst40 on Oct 27, 2011 13:46:42 GMT -6
I won't rewatch the whole film throughout the week, but I will filter what I want to watch and look specifically for. If we didn't have success in practice against a certain play or formation, I will rewatch the play and see how we can better attack either the formation or the particular play.
I notice that I pick up on some small tips later in the week that I might miss early on because I am more worried about the big picture.
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