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Post by deaux68 on Jul 7, 2007 19:12:29 GMT -6
We have this argument every year as a staff and we are going to have it again this year. It normally signals the start of the year.
What are we going to do with kids in the time between school lets out and it is time to start getting ready.
Some want them gone. Some want them there getting ready for the game. Some could care less, "as long as I don't have to watch them."
Me personally, I like them coming straight there, eating as a team and then sticking around. We've got a 4 year old fieldhouse with a big weightroom and a filmroom and a big locker room. In other words we aren't cramped. Why can't we have three sections? One for the sleepers, one for a movie, and one for guys that just want to be alone or whatever.
We get out of school at 1:55, we have 4th block football. It's a long time from 2:00 to 5:00.
Any suggestions?
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Post by coachjaz on Jul 7, 2007 19:35:02 GMT -6
As a player we were allowed to go home after school, which was just fine for me.
One place I coached kept them at school for a team dinner, final board session, relaxation.
I personally wouldnt mind seeing a combination of the two. If a kid wants to go rest at home let him. If he wants to stick around and rest at school.... let him.
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Post by CoachDaniel on Jul 7, 2007 20:19:59 GMT -6
We keep the kids there. They get out of school at 2:30 and we play at 7:30. We have a team meal first. Then there will be offensive and defensive meetings (most play both), special teams roll call, etc. Usually a speaker from the FCA in there (optional). All of that takes us up to 5:30, time to get dressed, get taped, and then specialists are out.
I'd love to think our kids were responsible and would go home, get off their feet and take a nap, eat something good, etc. Some will, most won't. I've never been in a program (player or coach) that let them go home, so I have a definite bias.
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 7, 2007 23:10:05 GMT -6
I like to keep them around and feed them. I've been two places that let them go home and way too many kids went straight to McDonalds and ate some crap with big pops and that garbage. And that was the good kid. Actually had a couple kids show up drunk or high a couple of times.
Keep them there, feed them, and give em a movie to watch or nap or listen to music.
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jul 7, 2007 23:18:23 GMT -6
If we are playing on the road we usually take off before school is out. However, if we play at home, our schedule is as follows (7:00 pm game):
3:35 dismissal from school (Most of them go home or downtown to eat. Some stay at school. I have 2 assistants there right after school in case anyone is in the LR and needs something. Our LR is nice, so they like to hang out in there.
4:35 Meeting/ Film. If they are late, they are demoted (if they call me @ home/school they are OK... even though they may wake me from my 15 min. nap).
5:00 Dress / Tape 5:30-6:20 Unit, Individual meetings, starters, general meeting 6:27 Specials Depart for stadium 6:34 Team Depart for stadium
With that long of time between, I wouldn't care if they were gone (we do have a lot of early out days on game day it seems), as long as there is a set time for team stuff (like we have at 4:35). I'm at a small school now, but this is the same format we had at the big school too.
What they do after school concerns me much less than what they do on a game day when we do not have school. When that happens, I call everyone (via calling tree) by 9:00 am to make sure they get up and eat breakfast.
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Post by tog on Jul 8, 2007 0:06:17 GMT -6
i think it really depends on where you are
my last school, we could let them go and they would be right back because most of them didn't have rides anyway
the school before that, let's just say we learned to keep them there no matter what
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Post by briangilbert on Jul 8, 2007 2:21:17 GMT -6
As a player if you care (I did) I wanted to be at the school with my team.
As a coach I'd want it the same way.
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Post by optioncoach on Jul 8, 2007 7:05:16 GMT -6
I'd look at it like this: Is there any need to change from what you're doing now? If you've had problem (kids show up late, eating junk, not focused, etc.) do something different, and I'd tell the kids why. If not, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Post by ajreaper on Jul 8, 2007 7:06:47 GMT -6
Not sure yet how I'll work this as a varsity HC- just another thing I need to consider and work out a plan for. The past 5 seasons I was the freshman HC and they stayed at school on game days. I did this because in the past I've had players ride the bus home thinking they had rides back to school then they do not- obviously creates problems at lower levels where kids do not drive and their buddies likely do not either.
Our games were a 6pm start with school out t 2:10. After school they headed to the locker room changed into shorts/t's and turned in grade checks. 2:30 was walk through in wrestling room. That generally lasted 35-40 minutes. 3:10 we issued uniforms and did equipment checks (straps on shoulder pads, tighten screws on the helmets, added air, changed out cleats etc) At 3:30 parents could deliver food for the kids or they ate what they brought from home. 4:15 was final meetings/film review time, 4:45 was pad up and 5pm specialties went out (actually all as we kept them all busy with something) and at 6pm we kicked off.
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Post by airraider on Jul 8, 2007 7:43:16 GMT -6
The last few years we got our kids at around 1:45. They came down.. we passed out anything they needed for the night.. pants mostly.. they got those fixed up and everyone met in the film room to watch film.. at 2:30 we usually had a pep rally.
when they got back and school was out.. 3:15.. we had our team meal.. had the same thing every week catered by a local business. If it was a long away trip which caused us to leave before 4:00, we usually made other plans..
After they ate they had different places they could go.. weightroom to sleep.. locker room.. film room.. but they had to be somewhere and off their feet..
At 5:00 we had offense and defense meetings.
at about 5:30 we had offensive and defensive walk through... at 6 we were on the field for pregame.
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Post by realdawg on Jul 8, 2007 7:44:55 GMT -6
We keep them at school-3:15 devotion, 3:30 pregame meal, 4:00 Offensive Position meetings 4:30 Defensive position meetings 5:00 quiet time-equipment hand out 5:30 dress 5:57-specialties go out.
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Post by bluboy on Jul 8, 2007 8:36:20 GMT -6
We let the kids go home if they want;, however, we have a pre-game meal(provided by boosters) at 3 or 3:30 (depends if we are home or away) that everyone must attend. The kids are usually finished eating by 4. At this time, anyone not on the first two teams (offense, defense, special teams) is dismissed to a coach. This coach and group of players have jobs to do. The remainder of the team and coaches have short special teams, offensive and defensive meetings which end around 4:40. The kids have until 5:30 to get dressed, taped, etc. Every one meets in the gym at 5:30; specialists go out at 5:45 and the rest of the team at 6:00 for a 7:00 kick-off.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 8, 2007 11:30:32 GMT -6
Well, I just KNOW if I let someone go..and something happened (Not talking tragic, just something like car breakdown..no ride back..etc. ) I would be kicking myself for the rest of the year.
If you have a nice place...keep em there.
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 8, 2007 15:15:07 GMT -6
I should also add that we don't get out of school until 3:30 here and at 3:00 at my old school. Old school we did this- on the field for walk through by 3:15, meal at 4, movies/rest until 5:15ish (earlier for guys to get taped, later for non tapers) and on the field by 6 game at 7.
Here we'll probably go on the field at 3:50, eat at 4:30, movie/rest (in the AC library- lots of room), taping at 5:15 and the same on out. Our parents feed our kids with the 12th man club.
I don't know what I'd do if I had to fill from 1:15 to 7 pm. That is a good question.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 16:41:04 GMT -6
We are a co-op program, so if you guys are having headaches filling your time, try to do it when more than one school is involved!! Unity has all the football facilities and school ends at 3:15 both places. Unity kids report to library until Payson kids show up then we eat in the cafeteria. We go from team meal to walk through to taping to specialists reporting. Don't remember the specific time schedule of all that.
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Post by clloyd on Jul 8, 2007 18:08:40 GMT -6
What are your guys pregame meals. I am a new head coach and looking to keep the guys at school as well. We are in the process of contacting businesses, but what do you recommend what is the best thing for them to eat before a game? Does anyone do meals on thursday night as well?
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Post by larrymoe on Jul 8, 2007 20:04:17 GMT -6
We did spaghetti when I was in school and everywhere I have coached, but I think the research is showing that some sandwiches are better for the kids. Lighter, and more easily digested. Some trainers have advised me to do this rather than spaghetti. They say if you want lots of carbs like that, do it the night before or the morning of, not that close to game time.
I know with the spaghetti we always had to tell the kids who played a lot to not overeat because we'd see it again later if they did or they would play incredibly sluggish.
Just my two cents from what people have told me.
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Post by gamedog on Jul 8, 2007 20:04:21 GMT -6
I like having them gather up right after school. Two schools I have worked at kept them and two have not. The two that have not kept the kids seem to play better on the road......
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Post by goldenbear76 on Jul 9, 2007 11:37:58 GMT -6
We're very similar to the Senator..
we want the kids to go home, put their feet up, relax.
At 5:00 pm they arrive in the locker room for tape 5:30: they're half pads and we all go into the wrestling room and watch one last bit of film on our opponent. (10-15 mins). 6:00 Special teams, QBs, WRs, TE's go on the field. 6:30 Lineman go out Game at 7:00. We usually keep our kids on the field since our locker room is 50,000 miles away from the field...long walk.
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Post by flycoach on Jul 9, 2007 12:03:14 GMT -6
We did spaghetti when I was in school and everywhere I have coached, but I think the research is showing that some sandwiches are better for the kids. Lighter, and more easily digested. Some trainers have advised me to do this rather than spaghetti. They say if you want lots of carbs like that, do it the night before or the morning of, not that close to game time. I know with the spaghetti we always had to tell the kids who played a lot to not overeat because we'd see it again later if they did or they would play incredibly sluggish. Just my two cents from what people have told me. I have heard the same thing from several people. Sandwiches seem to be the new pre-game fuel.
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Post by threeback on Jul 9, 2007 12:12:17 GMT -6
We keep our kids with us. Our school lets out at 2:15. Fourth block is our football class- we give out cloth at that time. We give the kids 15 minutes to move their vehicles and such, then we have walk through at 2:30 to 3:00- situations, first plays on offense, etc. 3:00-4:00- team meal in our caf 4:00-4:50- nap time, relaxation, film. All starters and key backups are in a classroom by themselves. 5:00-5:30- position meetings/offensive/defensive meetings 5:30-6:00- tape, extended meetings if needed 6:10- bus ride to our HOME stadium (this sucks) Once we get to the field, we do the normal pre-game routine.
When I played, we could go home- now, we rather keep the kids with us to make sure they stay out of fast food places and trouble.
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Post by calicoachh on Jul 9, 2007 16:15:09 GMT -6
being a catholic school, this is our schedule
mass 2:30 - 3:00 Dinner 3:00- 3:45 Kids are free unitl 5:15pm(unless it is an away game) Tape and dress specialists on field 6:15 Linemen on field 6:35 Back in locker room 7:05 back on field 7:20 kickoff 7:30
it has worked well for us, it gives the kids some time to go home and get thier stuff that they forget anyway, but not enough time not to be ready to play.
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