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Post by youngcoach54 on Oct 11, 2011 19:25:06 GMT -6
I am interested in hearing what other programs do to keep their kids "fresh" in the latter part of the season. I've noticed during the past few weeks that some of our kids are putting forth the effort in practice, but the "energy" is lacking. Today, a couple of my best kids (who are the hardest workers) looked absolutely spent. I would like to take some action before we grind our kids too far.
Any thoughts...?
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Post by fballcoachg on Oct 11, 2011 21:44:04 GMT -6
Coach, it may really just be the grind of it all, this is when the season can get long especially if you are "out of it". Possibly cut back on some periods or stress quality reps over quantity reps.
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Post by pvogel on Oct 12, 2011 0:39:42 GMT -6
make practice shorter. Even a little bit can make a good difference. emphasize good sleep and diet. sounds simple buy its not a priority in these kid's lives and unfortunately they need to be reminded to take care of themselves.
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Post by TMGPG on Oct 12, 2011 5:49:35 GMT -6
Coach, it may really just be the grind of it all, this is when the season can get long especially if you are "out of it". Possibly cut back on some periods or stress quality reps over quantity reps. At this point in the season I think that getting back to the fundamentals of the game are very important. If that means that you need to slow down to do some reteaching to make a tackle or make a block then I would say that is time well spent. By this point in the season you kids should know how to run you system. Sometimes though they get sloppy in their technique. That is the things that makes a difference in a close ball game.
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Post by tekart on Oct 12, 2011 6:38:26 GMT -6
We cut down our live periods and went back to fundamental blocking and tackling. Our kids were running the plays and the defense but were not getting the job done. So we decided to stress fundamentals more these next few weeks.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 12, 2011 7:02:39 GMT -6
Give the kids a day off.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 12, 2011 7:10:46 GMT -6
I would do a quick assessment of how many live reps each starter is getting at practice.
If the guy's a senior and he's been running iso for 4 years, he probably only needs a few reps a week at it, and some of those can be in walkthrough speed. There's no need to have your 1st teamer take the majority of reps with old schemes/concepts. This is a perfect opportunity to get young guys reps and make sure your future looks good.
Our TB is also an all-state caliber DB. If he's going to get a scholarship it will be as a DB. The way I look at it is he needs alot more work on that side of the ball. Seeing him run over our scout team kids 20times per practice does him no good. Let him conserve a little energy in offensive team- maybe getting 3 or every 10 reps. His backup needs more work than he does on O.
Being an OL coach, it's a little harder to keep them fresh. When we sub it's typically not a wholesale 5-for-5 substitution. What I have done is now that the 6/7th men are up to speed I rotate them every 4 practice reps NO MATTER WHAT. It has helped tremendously- the backups are better, the starters are fresher, and I'm not dreading injuries to the OL as much as I did before. It's making us a better unit/team.
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Post by blb on Oct 12, 2011 7:18:00 GMT -6
We only wear full pads Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
We do not cut back on practice length however, unless weather is a factor.
We give them water breaks every 15-20 minutes at least and one full 5-minute break (Water, Helmet Check, "Sky Drill") in middle of practice.
We do not do Conditioning at end of practice any more.
We tell them up front (beginning of Two-a-days) they will be sore and tired for the next three months - Football is an uncomfortable game.
There is no getting around that some of Football practice is routine drudgery. We try to minimize it by changing up drills used during Individual.
If you're having a less than successful season you must find a way to keep them coming back and having as much fun as possible.
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Post by davishfc on Oct 12, 2011 7:57:10 GMT -6
We only wear full pads Tuesdays and Wednesdays. We do not cut back on practice length however, unless weather is a factor. We give them water breaks every 15-20 minutes at least and one full 5-minute break (Water, Helmet Check, "Sky Drill") in middle of practice.. We do not do Conditioning at end of practice any more. We tell them up front (beginning of Two-a-days) they will be sore and tired for the next three months - Football is an uncomfortable game. There is no getting around that some of Football practice is routine drudgery. We try to minimize it by changing up drills used during Individual. If you're having a less than successful season you must find a way to keep them coming back and having as much fun as possible. We do a lot of the same that blb has mentioned. - We're only in full pads on Tuesday and Thursday. Shorts and helmets on Monday and Thursday. - We practice the same length of time just more opponent film. - We've cut conditioning at the end of practice. Generally our special teams segment doubles as our conditioning portion of practice. At a certain point also, like blb mentioned, they just need to have it communicated to them that football is a tough game that tough people play. It's a grind. Regardless of what we do as coaches to minimize the grind, it still exists so our players need to understand that it's adversity that they must overcome and they should take pride in that. They have to love digging in and working through the grind. That's why I believe some stuggling programs with continue to do so because some kids today just don't take pride in working through the natural grind of football. They ask themselves the question "why am I still doing this?" And let's face it, many kids start to shutdown so we have to help our players fight that inner battle to shutdown. On a more fun note with the weather. It hasn't happened yet this year because we've mostly been rained on during our games, not at our practices. But when it's cold and rainy and you know the kids are dreading going out to practice in it, I like to set up an Oklahoma drill right in the nastiest looking mud hole on our practice field. They hit each other and get after it and they get DIRTY!!! I mean mud in their faces. White practice jerseys turned completely brown. We'll set up senior groups vs. junior groups and keep score for a competitive component to the drill. The kids love it and it has lifted their spirits every year we've done it. We'll only be out in the weather for an hour and a half or so and most of the time is spent doing the Oklahoma drill. I know it seems silly like we're just messing around and we've wasted a day of preparation. But I would much rather have them out their doing that full speed and having fun in the nasty weather rather than going through the motions of the normal routine and complaining about the weather all practice. Just what we like to do. I think it would work for other programs as well.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 12, 2011 8:03:08 GMT -6
Yup, this has always worked best for me. We took Monday off this week because we're so friggin dinged up right now.
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Post by realdawg on Oct 16, 2011 7:30:56 GMT -6
I second give the kids a day off, especially if you can find a far inferior opponent to do it against. Our Mondays amount to film and not much more than a walk through, so we gave our kids this past Monday off before playing a 0-8 team. We came out on fire and won 56-0, could have been worse, but our kids were talking about how much better there legs felt this week.
Also, if you lift during the season, you might want to cut back on the weight and reps some to help save some energy.
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Post by fantom on Oct 16, 2011 9:10:19 GMT -6
I think our schedule helps. We don't bring the kids in on Saturday and Monday is a light day. like others in this thread we only have two padded practices a week. It's a long season.
I also believe that a lot of this goes on the coaches. The kids take their cue from you. You have to have energy every day. You have to be motivated and it can't seem forced or fake.
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Post by newb on Oct 16, 2011 13:04:41 GMT -6
Lose the pads, give them a football, and just let em play a pick up game.Nothing competative, just for fun. Doesn't have to be just the kids either, they always seem to have more fun when the coaches join in.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Nov 1, 2011 19:13:34 GMT -6
check to see what they are doing away from school, they might not be taking care of themselves...we lift everyday, and run every day but friday, mondays running is just 20 minute jog, but we have every program in the school doing this now...currently sitting 7-2, and broke a 23 game losing streak 1st game of the year, this is mine and the head coaches second year here...
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Post by coachwoodall on Nov 2, 2011 8:27:16 GMT -6
check to see what they are doing away from school, they might not be taking care of themselves...we lift everyday, and run every day but friday, mondays running is just 20 minute jog, but we have every program in the school doing this now...currently sitting 7-2, and broke a 23 game losing streak 1st game of the year, this is mine and the head coaches second year here... I agree, they're 16-17, why do we need to 'keep their legs'?
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Post by fantom on Nov 2, 2011 8:46:10 GMT -6
check to see what they are doing away from school, they might not be taking care of themselves...we lift everyday, and run every day but friday, mondays running is just 20 minute jog, but we have every program in the school doing this now...currently sitting 7-2, and broke a 23 game losing streak 1st game of the year, this is mine and the head coaches second year here... I agree, they're 16-17, why do we need to 'keep their legs'? I don't think the legs are as big of a problem as mental fatigue is.
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Post by Wingtman on Nov 2, 2011 8:54:04 GMT -6
We are starting to get lots of bumps and brusies as well, but hey its playoff time...it happends. We've gone to shell practices for about 90 minutes. No live contact, on bags. During Team O we step thru for about 20 minutes and run "live" for about 10 just for timing. We ll see how it goes tonight.
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Post by blb on Nov 2, 2011 9:11:15 GMT -6
I also believe that a lot of this goes on the coaches. The kids take their cue from you. You have to have energy every day. You have to be motivated and it can't seem forced or fake. On those days you're heading out to practice and you don't feel enthusiastic you need to fake it. You will fool yourself and then you will be enthusiastic!
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