flingt
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"We don't care how big or strong our opponents are as long as they're human.?
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Post by flingt on Oct 4, 2011 6:30:07 GMT -6
What are some things you wish you would have been told?
1. Be yourself-if you're a yeller, yell, if not the players see right through it. 2. Be on time. That means early. 3. Volunteer to do things, i.e., equipment, laundry. 4. Learn by asking questions. 5. Keep your relationships with your players to coach/player, they have enough "friends". 6. Keep up with technology. 7. Listen more than you speak, that's why you have 2 ears and one mouth. 8. LET THE PLAYERS EAT FIRST.
Anything else?
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Post by blb on Oct 4, 2011 6:32:58 GMT -6
If coaching CFB - rent, don't buy.
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Post by wingtol on Oct 4, 2011 6:33:55 GMT -6
If coaching CFB - rent, don't buy. And don't get married LOL
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flingt
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"We don't care how big or strong our opponents are as long as they're human.?
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Post by flingt on Oct 4, 2011 9:25:47 GMT -6
attend coach social activities...even if you don't drink...they are staff bonding times, it is important. never speak to parents about the game immediately following the game. Have a 24 hour rule. be careful of constantly friendly parents, they aren't your friends either - remember their interest in singular (their kid) dc, these are 3 of the biggest. I've been on staffs who did a lot socially and of course we were "closer". I also forgot to include NEVER SPEAK TO THE PRESS. Only the HC does.
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Post by fantom on Oct 4, 2011 9:32:29 GMT -6
You are responsible for learning more about the game in the offseason.
A. Pay attention at clinics. Do your beer drinking after the sessions have ended. Attend sessions that you may not be personally interested in because you never know where your career will take you. B. Be willing to spend your own money. When you change jobs you'll be taking the knowledge with you.
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Post by bucksweepdotcom on Oct 4, 2011 9:35:59 GMT -6
Be careful what you say and do. It only takes one parent to cause a big deal.
If you do say or do something and get away with it. Count your blessings and DON'T DO IT AGAIN!!!
if you think you are going to have to deal with a parent on an issue. Think about and write down on paper things you think you are going to be confronted with and have a plan of attack and be confident. Parents love when they smell weakness and uncertainty. You will remember this the first time you are blind sided by a parent, administrator, or even a kid!
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Post by airman on Oct 4, 2011 18:56:37 GMT -6
If coaching CFB - rent, don't buy. And don't get married LOL you stole my thunder. I u get married be a DINK(double income no kids) remember to treat those who love you the best because they will be there for you if things go bad. boosters will not, administration will not and there is always one on your staff who will be judas and sell you for 30 silver coins. it is human nature.
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Post by fantom on Oct 4, 2011 19:43:52 GMT -6
You certainly do need to marry the right woman. If your girlfriend is complaining that you spend too much time on football before you're married it won't get better after. You're going to have a big decision to make.
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Post by airraider on Oct 4, 2011 19:45:58 GMT -6
You dont know it all... And in actuality you will realize in about 10 years that currently you dont know shyt...
There is more to coaching football than coaching football... painting fields, cutting grass, cleaning uniforms and lockerrooms... breaking down film, scouting reports, grading film... ect
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Post by blb on Oct 4, 2011 19:56:45 GMT -6
You certainly do need to marry the right woman. If your girlfriend is complaining that you spend too much time on football before you're married it won't get better after. You're going to have a big decision to make. This. I have seen many promising young coaches get out of the profession or get divorced early on because their spouse did not understand what coaching Football demanded-expected. It's not a "normal" life, especially if you try to advance in the profession or if you're a head coach. Luckily for me, I married the best coach's wife, most beautiful and amazing wife, in America 31 years ago. One of my mentors told me I should "marry up". I did, and it's worked out very well. And, fortunately she's satisfied by the very best. ;D
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Post by samadams on Oct 4, 2011 20:03:20 GMT -6
There is a lyric from a Pink Floyd song that I think sums up alot of people you encounter in the coaching profession-
"You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to. So that when they turn their backs on you, you have the chance to put the knife in."
So as others have already stated, be careful who you trust and talk to outside your staff. MOST people don't have your best interst in mind.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 5, 2011 8:23:35 GMT -6
You will get fired, it is just a matter of time. Deal with it.
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Post by airraider on Oct 5, 2011 9:13:40 GMT -6
You will get fired, it is just a matter of time. Deal with it. I had an article published about 11 years ago in Gridiron Coach Magazine... I am almost embarrassed today reading it... take that for what its worth...
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Post by fantom on Oct 5, 2011 9:28:01 GMT -6
One thing that I've seen here a few times that's surprised me is warnings about backstabbers or disloyalty. I'm sorry that that's been the experience of those people. I've coached an several staffs at several schools. On some of those staffs I've worked with some guys who I consider bad coaches- lazy guys, know-it-alls, etc.-but I've never worked with a guy who I thought didn't have the best interests of the program at heart.
Has there been intramural griping? Everywhere I've been. That's not disloyalty. That's just being human, as long as it stays in-house and stays under control.
Sorry to hear about the bad luck that some guys have had. It isn't universal, though. Young guys, it's always good advice to tell you to keep your eyes open and watch your back. If you keep looking for something, though, you'll find it.
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Post by pvogel on Oct 5, 2011 9:30:17 GMT -6
i'd move your #7 up before #4.
be ready to be a lil frustrated at times. You'll have some good ideas (or ones that you think are good ideas) and you will be shot down often- whether rightfully so or not.
as for the clinics- everything is spot on. Make business cards too. Treat clinics like school and a job interview all in one. You might be meeting your next boss. Or you might be meeting your main man for when you get a higher job.
and with your emphasis on #8 it sounds like youve made that mistake before... lol
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Post by gulfcoastoffense on Oct 5, 2011 10:13:02 GMT -6
You will get fired, it is just a matter of time. Deal with it. And even somtimes by way of a text message! You will work for 2 types of head coaches. Those you love working for, and those you absolutely hate and continually clash with. The one you clash with might fire you through a text message!
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flingt
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Post by flingt on Oct 5, 2011 10:52:52 GMT -6
i'd move your #7 up before #4. be ready to be a lil frustrated at times. You'll have some good ideas (or ones that you think are good ideas) and you will be shot down often- whether rightfully so or not. as for the clinics- everything is spot on. Make business cards too. Treat clinics like school and a job interview all in one. You might be meeting your next boss. Or you might be meeting your main man for when you get a higher job. and with your emphasis on #8 it sounds like youve made that mistake before... lol My second year coaching college football we had a team dinner and Jumped up there in front and watched as all the other coaches waited until all of the players had eaten. Safe to say I never did it again. Bottom line, they are playing and I am not.
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Post by coachcb on Oct 5, 2011 11:05:02 GMT -6
1.Keep your trap shut unless you have something meaningful to add to a football related conversation. And, by "meaningful" I mean fundamentally related; as an HC, I am sick and tired of hearing about all of the Xs and Os solutions to problems.
2. Be accepting of criticism and have a thick skin. You're going to be criticized by the staff at some point; take it, learn and move on. Your 'feelings' are of little consequence when it comes to the success of the program.
3. Address issues in the coaches office, not on the field.
4. High school football really isn't the same game you see on TV on Saturdays and Sundays. And, it most certainly isn't the same as the d-mn video games.
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Post by barnone on Oct 5, 2011 11:22:24 GMT -6
Best advice I have gotten was to stay even.... Never get to high and never get too low. Remember you are working with 15-18 year old kids the will feed off of your responses.
Also love this one. Kids will live up to or down to your expectations. Learned this lesson as a kid I thought would never play for me turned into one of the best linebackers I ever had by the time he graduated.
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Post by coachking8 on Oct 5, 2011 11:28:38 GMT -6
1) Have a system YOU believe in and stick it out with what YOU do. Don't let parents, kids, administrators, peers, etc. dictate what you do. While it's always a great idea to attend clinics, read current literature and try to stay abreast of the newest trends and coaching ideas, remember that you have to have a scheme you can hang your hat on. If' you're going to be a Wing T guy, be a Wing T guy. Don't try to be a Wing T AND a spread guy. Have an offensive and defensive identity that you believe in. If you believe in it and tell your kids that your team is going to hang their hat on that identity then they will buy in. Also, remember that half the parents are going to hate your schemes because they don't understand what you're doing. They aren't at practice and don't watch film.
2) Like was stated above, have a thick skin and rememeber that parents AND administrators aren't your friends. Parents that you think are your friends will get you fired. Administrators that you think are your friends will fire you. That's just the way things work in this amazing profession!
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Coach Unk
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Post by Coach Unk on Oct 6, 2011 6:13:07 GMT -6
As a new college coach I would advise to prepare to spend lots of time in the office, not a lot of time giving your thoughts or views, coaching what you can, do not expect coaches to help you learn the system in place, and to make sure you always handle your business.
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Post by Coach Vint on Oct 7, 2011 7:58:59 GMT -6
Build a coaching network. When you go to a clinic or state association meeting, introduce yourself to people. Your network will help open the doors to new jobs.
Make sure you join your local and state coaching associations and the AFCA.
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flingt
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Post by flingt on Oct 7, 2011 9:37:44 GMT -6
Build a coaching network. When you go to a clinic or state association meeting, introduce yourself to people. Your network will help open the doors to new jobs. Make sure you join your local and state coaching associations and the AFCA. Excellent tip.
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Post by airraider on Oct 9, 2011 7:08:51 GMT -6
When you're up to your eye balls in shyt, keep your mouth closed!
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Post by dacoordinator on Oct 10, 2011 9:45:47 GMT -6
Its been a while fellas… But although I have been coaching for 5 years now, I am still relatively young. I appreciate the advise you guys are given about how to better conduct myself while completely learning the ropes of coaching. Lets face it we all make mistakes in life and in our careers. When other young coaches see this thread, they can make the decision on how they will conduct their selves.
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flingt
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Post by flingt on Oct 10, 2011 11:48:22 GMT -6
Its been a while fellas… But although I have been coaching for 5 years now, I am still relatively young. I appreciate the advise you guys are given about how to better conduct myself while completely learning the ropes of coaching. Lets face it we all make mistakes in life and in our careers. When other young coaches see this thread, they can make the decision on how they will conduct their selves. This site didn't exist when I was starting, for that matter neither did the internet. These are things that we all should know, but we don't know what we don't know.
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Post by CoachCP on Oct 10, 2011 11:58:55 GMT -6
Listen to the old timers, but don't let them get under your skin. They have good advice, even when it's wrong (meaning learn from their mistakes and do not repeat unless you HC forces you to do so, and if he does, get out at the end of the year if it keeps happening).
No matter what, you're going to have to defend your points. You'll be wrong about 3/4 of the time, but be passionate about what you believe in.
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Post by coachstoll on Oct 10, 2011 12:58:12 GMT -6
Know your place in the program.
Inhale as much information as possible, but keep your mouth shut as long as you are not in the position to speek up.
Only tell your thoughts about football stuff in personal meetings.
NEVER tall anybody if you have personal issues with somebody on the staff.
Try to get in a place where you get encouraged to learn more about football and build your personal thoughts about football.
Work to find the system you like. Don't just teach system A cause your former headcoach had this system installed.
Be yourself, if you are not a speeking guy have somebody else to motivate your guys before the game.
Say please and thank you.
Always be respectful with other coaches, you are not enemies, your are colleagues.
ALWAYS finish the job.
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 10, 2011 14:24:46 GMT -6
X's and O's are 5% of coaching. Otherwise it's like running your own business. Cash flow, PR, marketing, sales, accounting, and long hours doing crap jobs.
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Post by msubmoore on Oct 10, 2011 22:11:47 GMT -6
This is my first season in coaching. I try to learn as much as I can every day. I read these boards every chance I get. I want to thank all the coaches who write on this message board. Thank you very much.
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