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Post by wingtol on Sept 28, 2011 11:09:10 GMT -6
So we decided to have a little fun with our opponent this week , 4-0 vs. 4-0, heading into our game who we knew was coming to scout last week instead of a film exchange. We figured we would mess with them and try and get them to waste time on film study. So we made up some big signs with random pictures like Oregon and had a JV coach hold them up when we called our defense. I could see their scout pointing it out and the camera moving from our side line to the field every call we made. No idea if they tried to figure it all out or not but hopefully we wasted some of their time this week LOL.
So i was wondering if anyone else does some simple easy things scheme wise or other to try and get teams to waste their time getting ready for you? we do a lot of small simple things on specials teams that force other teams to work on them during the week like a high pop up kick off, 8 man front to block punts, a nice exp block, and rugby punt.
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Post by John Knight on Sept 28, 2011 11:18:27 GMT -6
We just don't have enough time or kids to that kind of stuff, even if our kids could handle it.
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Post by newb on Sept 28, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -6
I coach MS so we usually don't know what an opponent will run until we see it on gameday. Usually we try to have a coach keep on eye on what they're running pre-game to get an idea of what we'll be up against. So, for our pre-game, I got a great idea off one of the coaches on this site. We're an under center Wing-T program, so for pre-game, we line up in shotgun spread formations with 12-13 guys and have the QB tell everyoine what routes to run in the huddle and they just throw it around and have a good time. One time we watched an opposing coach frantically start scribbling down formations and routes and then proceeded to scratch his head when he was couting and re-counting the number of guys we had.
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Post by mattyg2787 on Sept 28, 2011 20:55:16 GMT -6
My favourite one I've been involved in, we were a no huddle team and our coach scripted 3 plays out. It was something like dive left, Lead left, toss right. So as a team we knew the plays. He made a great point of calling out very loudly Blue 14 on all 3 calls. Think our dive made 3 yards, lead got stopped for 1 and the toss went 40 yards + for a TD. The entire defence shifted at the snap of the ball, didn't even look at where it was going, just rushed to make the tackle......on no one.
Good times
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Post by coachcb on Sept 29, 2011 8:14:34 GMT -6
We avoid this because we don't want the same thing happening to us. It's not worth it to me to have our time wasted in the hopes that they'll p-ss away some of theirs.
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Post by flingt on Sept 29, 2011 10:37:06 GMT -6
We can't afford the poster board.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 29, 2011 10:41:55 GMT -6
my kids would probably run whatever was held up on the sign. LOL. I think we're in the same boat, coach. They'd be lined up in some weird 'I formation' defense if we had a pic of an eye on the board. |
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Post by wingtol on Sept 29, 2011 12:49:59 GMT -6
my kids would probably run whatever was held up on the sign. LOL. I think we're in the same boat, coach. They'd be lined up in some weird 'I formation' defense if we had a pic of an eye on the board. Our kids did say at half time "Coach ...Hot Dog and Bevis and Butthead are working well run them more in the second half..." |
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Post by windigo on Sept 29, 2011 16:30:02 GMT -6
We just don't have enough time or kids to that kind of stuff, even if our kids could handle it. Well say you have them run a trick play during walk thoughs like swinging gate. It doesn't take much time they have some fun. You dont really care if you run it perfect. Thats not the point. Once you get it on film every other team has to spend about 20 mins of real practice time practicing against it. |
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Post by carookie on Sept 29, 2011 20:19:40 GMT -6
HAHAHA I tried to convince a bunch of the guys on the staff that we should do that just for fun; we're no huddle anyways. I don't know how much it would work in throwing people; I think the fun would be just screwing around with people and getting the kids to laugh about it.
We were thinking about putting up pictures of the opposing coach as one of the squares, maybe let the kids vote on one each week. I'd like to know what ya'll put up there.
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Post by tothehouse on Sept 29, 2011 22:00:49 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, Huey (and others) have mentioned running 13 or 14 players on offense during the pregame warm ups. That is classic stuff.
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Post by coachschro on Sept 29, 2011 22:19:07 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, Huey (and others) have mentioned running 13 or 14 players on offense during the pregame warm ups. That is classic stuff. I don't understand what you mean... |
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Post by pvogel on Sept 30, 2011 0:08:09 GMT -6
a couple big things-
1. Swinging Gate. Its something different that not everyone does and it makes you spend more time then you want to workin on your PAT block.
2. empty/quads. major pain in the a$$ to deal with on D. We faced a team our 2nd game that ran empty and we spent waaaay too much time in our morning meeting drawing up how we wanted to play against it. We played it well in the game, but it took a lot of time and reps away from their base stuff. Beauty about it too is that you dont need to run it that much to make an impact with it.
3. Kicking out of a bunch or bunches. Kinda like swingin gate it gives another look to something other teams dont do. Creates new onside kicks too.
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Post by John Knight on Sept 30, 2011 9:00:56 GMT -6
Damn Muddle huddle PAT!!!
The only reason people do it is so you have to practice for it!!
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Post by PIGSKIN11 on Sept 30, 2011 9:12:55 GMT -6
What is muddle huddle PAT?
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 30, 2011 9:36:33 GMT -6
{censored} Muddle huddle PAT!!! The only reason people do it is so you have to practice for it!! We used to run it as a play, we would count how many came over and run/kick accordingly. |
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Post by wingtol on Sept 30, 2011 9:48:05 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, Huey (and others) have mentioned running 13 or 14 players on offense during the pregame warm ups. That is classic stuff. I don't understand what you mean... You just put a few extra guys out there on offense to create confusion if anyone is watching. like 2 te with 2 back and 2 wr's, or 4 wr's and 2 backs...stuff like that. |
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Post by coachwaz on Sept 30, 2011 9:51:06 GMT -6
My buddy that coaches for an opposing school has threatened to use pictures of me on his board ....then he told me that because my head is so large they could not find enough in the budget to get the amount of poster board needed
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Post by cnunley on Sept 30, 2011 11:10:10 GMT -6
Heck 3 weeks ago we had 12 people in on our goalline defense. For 3 plays, and they still scored...I didn't notice it until films on saturday. One on one off...that's a lost concept for us sometimes. Somehow in the shuffle of not making a 4th down conversion to getting our defense on the field last week we were a man down. Played with 10 for about 5 plays. The kicker is the instant we realized it..."Oh sh!t coach, we're missing a LB, get so and so now..." they scored. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2011 11:47:45 GMT -6
If I remember the post correctly, the Huey 12 or 13 offensive players was a matter of convenience to him, not messing with the opponents. It's just his way of doing warm-ups without having WRs coming in and out and running all over when he's wanting to do his two-back run plays.
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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 30, 2011 20:45:49 GMT -6
We don't bother. It would just be one more thing for the scout to report that we're bad at.
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Post by coachwaz on Oct 3, 2011 10:07:44 GMT -6
This week, in order to mess with the scouts in the stands for next weeks opponent, we decided to not stop blast and let them run it down our throats.....atleast that is what I am trying to convince myself....
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