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Post by Wingtman on Sept 21, 2011 13:32:33 GMT -6
If you could have any situation, what would it be? I'm not talking about being the OC at Oregon or the DC for the New England Patriots, but more, what would you want if you could have anything?
Players year in and out?
Staff?
Unlimited budget?
Facilities?
Support?
Just curious to what everyone has to say.
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Post by coachbdud on Sept 21, 2011 14:48:01 GMT -6
Players year in and out?
Id love 22 D-1 kids but thats not going to happen... I can settle for a some fast kids, gotta have 1 SPECIAL player per year, a QB that can do something... run/throw a bit of both... hes gotta have some skill lol. And give me 5 OL who are average size who can all move. Throw in a couple serviceable backups and I can get by.
Staff? Give me a couple close friends and a few guys who know their role. I want 4 defensive coaches, 2 WR coaches, a QB coach, and a RB coach (ill take the OL myself) all of whom can be there everyday. I want an awesome ST coach that I can trust to do everything so I can not have to stress on that side of things. Give me my own strength coach or give me a football period of PE and i can do it myself
Unlimited budget?
it would be nice but lets be real...
Facilities?
we have a great stadium... just poor locker and field facilities. Give me field turf so i always have lines and give me a fieldhouse , and my own weight room seperate for football only
Support?
AD who has my back, and a secretary who can handle a lot of my paperwork stuff for me. Our AD here is great and supportive, principal too (both former football coaches)
and I have a great relationship with all of the ladies who work in the office, so i can always get their help with anything paperwork wise
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Post by mattyg2787 on Sept 21, 2011 15:26:02 GMT -6
I'm gonna say it'd be nice to have a full team of studs but I'd rather have 40 guys who will work their arse off.
As far as other coaches, I'd like a 2nd Oline coach, wr coach, qb coach, rb coach and 4 d coaches.
Mostly though, I'd love to be paid enough for me to live off just coaching football
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Post by airman on Sept 21, 2011 16:27:05 GMT -6
total control of the program. i decide who gets hired and who gets fired from 7th grade on up.
total control of the youth program I decide how it is run.
supportive news paper
school of 1500 to 2000 students. only school in town. prefer a 7-9 jr high school and 10-12 high school.
football only facility with weight room, film room, coaches offices
year round only coaching situation
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2011 7:14:58 GMT -6
"enough money to live off of just coaching"
hit the nail right on the head with that one.
if I could get that I think I could deal with everything else.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 22, 2011 7:21:15 GMT -6
Honestly, I would love to coach in a community where there is the POTENTIAL for good football. A smaller, hard working, blue collar area where the kids all play sports but football has really never taken hold. They're not terrible; but middle of the pack year in and year out. I would love an HC job in that environment because, with some work, you could make the program very competitive. And, I want it to be another 8-man gig.  I'm diggin 8-man football. |
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Post by PSS on Sept 22, 2011 8:35:27 GMT -6
I'm just like everyone else, I want to win. However, after coaching for 20 years I have put my priorities in a different order.
I have coached in the largest division of HS football in Texas (5A). I did it for 8 years. Made the playoff runs 5 of those years.
I have made the playoffs 12 of the 20 years. But, in the long run you have to put your family first.
This last year, I took a DC job a small (250 students) HS. My 7th grade son is getting an opportunity to experience playing JH football unlike anyother. He knows every kid in the school. He is having more success in school (academics) and he is having fun because for the first time in his life his I'm getting to spend more time with him.
On the way to school today he asks, "Dad, when I pull on 30 trap who do I block? Can you remind me again?"
Those are things that I couldn't have had in a larger school. I love coaching in a small community.
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Post by coachcb on Sept 22, 2011 8:40:32 GMT -6
I'm just like everyone else, I want to win. However, after coaching for 20 years I have put my priorities in a different order. I have coached in the largest division of HS football in Texas (5A). I did it for 8 years. Made the playoff runs 5 of those years. I have made the playoffs 12 of the 20 years. But, in the long run you have to put your family first. This last year, I took a DC job a small (250 students) HS. My 7th grade son is getting an opportunity to experience playing JH football unlike anyother. He knows every kid in the school. He is having more success in school (academics) and he is having fun because for the first time in his life his I'm getting to spend more time with him. On the way to school today he asks, "Dad, when I pull on 30 trap who do I block? Can you remind me again?" Those are things that I couldn't have had in a larger school. I love coaching in a small community. Long time, no see, Cookie Monster. I agree, I like coaching in smaller schools; it gives you a chance to be far more involved with your kids and the community. Assuming you want to be more involved with the community... |
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Post by coachhart on Sept 22, 2011 9:28:46 GMT -6
The one thing that I think that my staff is running in to right now that would be #1 on my "realistic" wish list is to have every coach teach in the building. We only have two coaches (out of 10) that teach in the building and we're having some continuity issues. I think that if we all taught in the same place we wouldn't be having as many problems. Plus, my feeder HS just beat us and my middle school kids have been giving me crap all week!
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Post by flingt on Sept 22, 2011 11:46:09 GMT -6
Establishing a tradition. Whether it's a rock, singing the alma mater after every game, etc.
Getting the band to work WITH us and not against us, i.e. don't play when we have the ball.
More school/community spirit. Winning helps that.
Playing apples to apples instead of raisins to watermelons.
That's a start.
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Post by lochness on Sept 22, 2011 12:45:06 GMT -6
I'm in the ideal situation right now, and I'm blessed.
OC and coaching the two positions I know and love best (RB and DB) for a school who has done nothing but get better and better each of the past 4 years in terms of wins, season results (playoff performance), off-season dedication, and overall attitude. Our staff works hard and gets along great.
I have ZERO complaints.
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Post by flingt on Sept 23, 2011 9:35:11 GMT -6
I'm in the ideal situation right now, and I'm blessed. OC and coaching the two positions I know and love best (RB and DB) for a school who has done nothing but get better and better each of the past 4 years in terms of wins, season results (playoff performance), off-season dedication, and overall attitude. Our staff works hard and gets along great. I have ZERO complaints. You do know we all hate you. |
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Post by olcoach53 on Sept 23, 2011 10:35:44 GMT -6
I like all of the things being said. I think a good tradition, a small enough community where there is only one high school but that high school has a large population. A great JFL program that feeds into the high school is huge too. A staff you can trust is the most important part in that situation and kids who buy into the program.
Also unlimited funds haha
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Post by samadams on Sept 23, 2011 11:19:54 GMT -6
A community that holds the students and athletes accountable for their own actions and doesn't try to fire coaches everytime the right kid doesn't play or a game is lost to a better team.
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Post by wingt74 on Sept 23, 2011 12:13:47 GMT -6
After it's all said and done, yeah, lazy coaches bother me, nosy school boards, unresonable parents, snotty teachers, poor equipment...all bother me.
But I hate...HATE losing. Probably too much. So my ideal situation is one where I'm coaching good football players who work hard. cause good football players, who work hard = WINS.
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Post by fantom on Sept 23, 2011 13:38:51 GMT -6
1. Administrative support.
A. Reasonable teaching schedule
B. Most of the staff in the building (not necessarily all as I think one or two community
coaches can be a useful liason).
C. No interference in team discipline.
D. Communication.
2. Great coaching staff
A. Loyal, hard-working, teachers of fundamentals.
B. Complete control of the staff.
3. Reasonable budget.
4. Supportive but not meddlesome booster club.
5. Good (not necessarily fabulous) facilities.
6. Athletic PE period.
7. Great relationship with coaches of other sports.
8. School demographic similar to other schools in the league.
9. Community that considers football to be important.
10. Good salary for me and assistants.
11. Support (money, professional leave) for research and development (clinics, visits, etc.).
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Post by dsqa on Sept 24, 2011 9:19:49 GMT -6
Ok, another perspective...from a history of some pretty brutal situations....Not sure it's wise to believe in an ideal situation, and honestly, longing for one can only serve to make you more ungrateful and cynical. Lord knows I want things easier at times, just get the bills paid...ya know... But I have found that if I spend all my time trying to make it "ideal" for me, then I am certainly in danger of missing the point of my coaching...bringing the best out of what I have. I like to think in terms of opportunities given...Nothing wrong with dreaming a bit over a beverage, but I think we might all
find more upside in what we do as coaches if we maintain perspective...just sayin'
For me on the dream side...get the bills paid and change some lives in the process for the positive...the rest is just stuff
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Post by pvogel on Sept 24, 2011 11:23:08 GMT -6
a place for my beautiful wife and kids in a small community where we are welcome and our jobs are secure. A staff that is like a second family. A school where the teaching part is fun rather than a chore.
thats my ideal situation.
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Post by blb on Sept 24, 2011 11:36:53 GMT -6
Ok, another perspective...from a history of some pretty brutal situations....Not sure it's wise to believe in an ideal situation, and honestly, longing for one can only serve to make you more ungrateful and cynical. Lord knows I want things easier at times, just get the bills paid...ya know... But I have found that if I spend all my time trying to make it "ideal" for me, then I am certainly in danger of missing the point of my coaching...bringing the best out of what I have. I like to think in terms of opportunities given...Nothing wrong with dreaming a bit over a beverage, but I think we might all find more upside in what we do as coaches if we maintain perspective...just sayin' For me on the dream side...get the bills paid and change some lives in the process for the positive...the rest is just stuff From experience and observation, there are no ideal or "golden" situations anymore (if there ever were), at least in these parts. Every program has problems. The more consistently successful ones just have different kinds of problems than others. And as head coach, YOU are paid to be the problem-solver. |
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Post by airman on Sept 24, 2011 12:17:50 GMT -6
To be Charlie Sheen minus the drug and alcohol addictions. waking up to bre olson every morning had to be most excellent. waking up to this gal would be even more excellent www.bodyrock.tv |
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Post by coachfd on Sept 25, 2011 20:54:49 GMT -6
I've been in my "ideal situation" three times, and have been both ecstatic and also miserable in each of them.
At the end of the day, I want to be a program and a community where I feel like I can put all my talents, knowledge, and experiences to use...to pour them into the hearts and minds of my players, coaches, colleagues, and school community...in every minute of the day.
The worst feeling is that of feeling "un-utilized."
The best--when you feel like everything you're doing is exactly what you were put in this world to coach.
I love those days when I used to pop out of bed and say:
"I've got the best job, in the best sport, in the best country in all the world... I coach football in the United States of America."
Plus, a nice gig in a K-12 private/Catholic school would be nice, then your kids could go to prep school for free their whole lives, and you'd be able to see them throughout the day, know that they're in a safe environment, and know that they're getting quality academic/athletic/character instruction from quality people.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Sept 25, 2011 21:06:50 GMT -6
A former principal of mine said that it would be great to work at a foster school (ie: no parents to complain). That's where I want to coach and teach.
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Post by coachguy83 on Sept 25, 2011 21:32:32 GMT -6
My ideal job would be one in which I was paid for my services.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 26, 2011 11:55:23 GMT -6
Support. Administration, community, parent, teacher, and player. All the other things can be over come if you have the support for what you're trying to accomplish.
If not that, then a job at a boarding school for freakishly athletic orphans.
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I'm diggin 8-man football.
