caseys8527
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You are either coaching - or letting it happen
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Post by caseys8527 on Aug 30, 2011 9:58:57 GMT -6
New coach and haven't Gotten anyone for in game stats. We have hudl. Anyone have any tips for making this efficient after the game?
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Post by airraider on Aug 30, 2011 10:42:49 GMT -6
New coach and haven't Gotten anyone for in game stats. We have hudl. Anyone have any tips for making this efficient after the game? I have always done stats after the game myself from the film... I do not trust a kid to really know what is going on in real time. |
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Post by TMGPG on Aug 30, 2011 13:47:30 GMT -6
Get it off the film. The film never lies. Just make sure that you have a good Filmer.
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Post by kboyd on Aug 30, 2011 22:11:30 GMT -6
The paper gets the stats from our game statistician and then I get the official league stats from the film.
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Post by mholst40 on Aug 31, 2011 12:25:16 GMT -6
I use the Hudl stats feature and some custom reports to do all of my stats. The only problem is if your cameraman misses a play, you can't get stats on that play.
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Post by jlenwood on Aug 31, 2011 12:52:16 GMT -6
We have some very simple, but very complete spreadsheets we have come up with. We have a youg guy that does nothing but stats. Gave him a coaches shirt, he gets into the games for free and thats all he said he needed.
The nice thing is, we get a printed report at half and at the end of the game. So far they have been accurate. He also calls in the results to the paper.
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Post by cqmiller on Aug 31, 2011 14:00:10 GMT -6
How do you get a printed report at half? Isn't using a computer against competition rules?
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Post by jlenwood on Aug 31, 2011 20:54:11 GMT -6
The only place I have see anything concerning this is section 1-6. I know you cant use video or any kind of communication other than headset.
I have never heard of a printout giving passing stats and rushing stats as illegal. Maybe I am wrong.
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Post by brophy on Aug 31, 2011 21:22:35 GMT -6
spotter in the booth
1. they should be charting each play in sequence. by the time the play is relayed to the QB, all the spotter needs to do is mark down the yardage
2. is from this chart/ hit sheet that this coach will return to you at the half so you guys can go over ball distribution and what is working
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2011 22:13:46 GMT -6
From Johnknight on the rules board
Rule 1-5 Under article 3
3. Such prohibition does not include the use of computers and/or other electronic
devices, which produce reports for the purpose of compiling statistics, including those
listed in the NFHS Statisticians Manual. However, the use of computers and/or other electronic devices shall be considered illegal if they are used at any time during the game and
can be used to produce play tendencies and other scouting information and such information
is given to any member of any team prior to the conclusion of the game.
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Post by jlenwood on Sept 1, 2011 6:10:02 GMT -6
Maybe this should be another thread, but is 1-5 in contradiction to what brophy posted. It seems that we are ok because all we are tracking is stats. There is no scouting or tendencies being tracked.
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Post by airraider on Sept 1, 2011 7:04:52 GMT -6
Maybe this should be another thread, but is 1-5 in contradiction to what brophy posted. It seems that we are ok because all we are tracking is stats. There is no scouting or tendencies being tracked. [/quote Just playing devil's advocate here, but arent you tracking your own tendencies? Its a vague rule, so I would be careful. |
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Post by brophy on Sept 1, 2011 11:42:00 GMT -6
The easiest way to do it (using a computer/electronic device is not required) is to chart as the play is called.
Just have a table/spreadsheet already printed out (cqmiller has some great ones ready).
1. Post snap, get the next play's D&D and hash
2. Enter any personnel groupings you might have
3. Sequentially enter the play-call (easier if they are called off a wristband)
4. enter the result with the ball carrier's number
This helps with entering them in HUDL later, because you already have tracked the play sequence.
You do this for both O & D
Before half-time, that tracker can tally all this up and give you a quick summary of what really happened in the 1st half (repeat for 2nd half)
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Post by airman on Sept 1, 2011 16:40:02 GMT -6
this is why you hire the math teachers who like sports to take stats.
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Post by pmeisel on Sept 1, 2011 18:51:31 GMT -6
Hell, I did stats before they had computers -- and calculators were too expensive and heavy!
Coaches, there are always some good students, and sometimes teachers, who would like to help out and are good with spotting and numbers.
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Post by JVD on Sept 2, 2011 20:01:14 GMT -6
I have a JV player stalk me on the sideline and annotate their offense and the defense I call against it.
He gets to wear his jersey and be on the sideline of a varsity game..
In the second quarter I start asking him what's working.
At the half he marks (by down) the opponents runs/passes; left/right/center; etc.
(These are USUALLY the same as what I saw on film...but sometimes there are surprises.)
I also have him see what the top 3 defenses were and the bottom 3.
Seems to help me keep it organized in my brain and (I feel) call a better 2nd half.
JVD
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